Was Christ's resurrection foretold in the Old Testament?

[HEAVY_HAND]

When reciting the creed statement, “On the third day he rose again from the dead in fulfillment of the Scriptures…”, I’ve always assumed the Scriptures to which we refer are from the Old Testament. Breezing through the Catechism just now though, the Scripture references I see are all from the New Testament.

Was Christ’s resurrection foretold in any of the books of the Old Testament?

YES! Great question ! I don’t think anyone has directly answered your question yet…
As I was reading it, The Lord brought to mind the OT Scripture which King David prophesied in Psalm16:8-10 concerning Christ’s Resurrection .

Actually the one I remembered was in Acts 2:23-31 where St. Peter, in giving his first preaching sermon (just after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit), explained how David prophecied of Christ’s resurrection and he quoted from Psalms 16…

"…Whom God has raised up, having loosed the pains of death, ….For David speaketh concerning him, **'I forsaw the Lord ** always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad, moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corrupton. '" – Peter (Acts 2:24-27).

Peter continues to explain the prophecy of Psalm 16 :
“Men and brethren, let me freely speak to you about the patriarch David,…therefore, being a prophet, …He (David) seeing this beforehand, spoke of the resurrection of Christ…” – Peter (Acts 2:24-31)

Heavy Hand:thumbsup:

Did that make sense, BeeSweet?:angel1:

 

[Valke2]

YES! Great question ! I don’t think anyone has directly answered your question yet…
As I was reading it, The Lord brought to mind the OT Scripture which King David prophesied in Psalm16:8-10 concerning Christ’s Resurrection .

Actually the one I remembered was in Acts 2:23-31 where St. Peter, in giving his first preaching sermon (just after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit), explained how David prophecied of Christ’s resurrection and he quoted from Psalms 16…

"…Whom God has raised up, having loosed the pains of death, ….For David speaketh concerning him, **'I forsaw the Lord ** always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad, moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corrupton. '" – Peter (Acts 2:24-27).

Peter continues to explain the prophecy of Psalm 16 :
“Men and brethren, let me freely speak to you about the patriarch David,…therefore, being a prophet, …He (David) seeing this beforehand, spoke of the resurrection of Christ…” – Peter (Acts 2:24-31)

Heavy Hand:thumbsup:

Did that make sense, BeeSweet?:angel1:

So, the support rests on a verse in Psalm 16. And you can only get to the conclusion that Psalm 16 is talking about Jesus if you already believe Jesus is the Messiah. If you are reading the psalm from any other perspective, there’s no way you can conclude that is a prophecy about Jesus.

Psalm 16 is about the joy that fills David’s life due to his submission to God. It is David speaking of his own soul, and his relationship with God.

Psalm 16:8-10: I have placed God before me constantly; because He is at my right hand, I will not falter. Therefore, my heart rejoiced, and my soul was glad; even my flesh shall dwell in safety. For you shall not forsake my soul to the grave. You shall not allow your poius one to see the pit.

The Hebrew word for grave is mistranslated when it is used to mean hell. It referes to the place where the body goes after death. The world of the dead.
In this Psalm, David is not referring to ressurection. He is saying that when he dies, he’s happy to know that his soul will ascend to be with God, and not descend to the grave with his body.

We see the same thing in Ecc. 12:7 "And the dust returns to the earth as it was; and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

It is clear from a plain reading of the Psalm, that this is what is meant. There’s no referral to resurrection, unless you are looking for something that isn’t there.

The whole psalm is about David giving reasons for why he’s been happy throughout his life and that he will rejoice even in death, because his soul will be with God.

The use of the word “corruption” in the psalm is a mistranslation. ALthough the modern Hebrew for that same word can mean corruption, the biblical Hebrew did not. It meant grave or pit. The psalm uses two different Hebrew words for grave, for stylistic purposes.

 

[paarsurrey]

I love you, too, Paar. And I’ll pray for you and ask you to keep me in your prayers, my brother!
Peace!

Hi
Thank you for your prayers for me.
I would say Paul had got nothing to do with the Crucifixion of Jesus or his ascention. Paul was not related directly with the incident. His witnessing or his saying that 500 people witnessed his ascention, to me, is of no value. He was not present on both the occasions, he would only say on hearsay, that is no witnessing, and then he cannot give a list of people with names, so there the matter ends. Similarly the matter of 11, they say they got martyred, so that is no witnessing of crucifixion or ascension.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi - a peaceful faith in Islam

 

[paarsurrey]

That’s great, what exactly was JesusYeshualssa ,Prophet/Messenger of GodAllahYHWH, message of prophesies than? Excuse my ignorance, I mean no disrespect. Because personally, I know what my new testament tells me Jesus said, but I am very curious what you believe he said.

Hi
I could not understand you post fully. Excuse me, please elaborate for my understanding.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi - a peaceful faith in Islam

 

[CryptoCatholic]

Respecting the Opening Post question, Dei Verbum tells us that “the New Testament is hidden in the Old,” Paragraph 16, and that the meaning of the prophecies – the New Testament stories hidden in the Old – is “indicated” by the use of various “types,” or symbols, Paragraph 15.

We can see the Resurrection typologically foreshadowed, in the fashion Dei Verbum describes, in the Old Testament at various points.

Joseph, son of Jacob, for example, is “resurrected” 3 times: (1) At Genesis 37:24-36, when Joseph is thrown into the cistern, and then raised out of it, and his coat is left behind, bloodied, for his father to see – a “typological Bible word picture” of Christ’s burial in the stone tomb and resurrection, leaving his shroud behind; (2) at Genesis 39:11-18, when Potiphar’s wife tries to make Joseph lay with her, but Joseph springs away, leaving his cloak behind – a “typological Bible work picture” of Christ rising from the dead and leaving his shroud behind; and (3) at Genesis 41:14-16, when Pharaoh has Joseph removed from the dungeon and his clothes changed, so that Joseph can interpret Pharaoh’s dream – a “typological Bible word picture” of Christ being raised and leaving His shroud behind.

Joseph actually gets “resurrected” a fourth time, at Exodus 13:19, when Moses brings his bones out of Egypt. (A Muslim writer argues that an empty tomb in the Valley of Kings is actually Joseph’s.)

Other Old Testament heroes are “raised” to pre-figure Jesus’ resurrection – Samson, when he is raised out of a cavern, Judges 15:8-13, Jeremiah, when he is raised from the cistern, Jeremiah 38:6-13, and maybe what is the most shocking foreshadowing of all, the Elder of Razis, when he (a) goes up, (b) cuts himself with a sword, (c) throws himself down, (d) raises himself up onto a rock, and (e) throws his entrails out onto the crowd, a typological word picture of (a) Christ’s crucifixion, (b) being stabbed with the sword while on the cross, (c) His burial, (d) His resurrection, and (e) His gift of His actual flesh to His people, in the Eucharist! See 2 Maccabees 14:37-46.

 

[NotWorthy]

Hi
Thank you for your prayers for me.
I would say Paul had got nothing to do with the Crucifixion of Jesus or his ascention. Paul was not related directly with the incident. His witnessing or his saying that 500 people witnessed his ascention, to me, is of no value. He was not present on both the occasions, he would only say on hearsay, that is no witnessing, and then he cannot give a list of people with names, so there the matter ends. Similarly the matter of 11, they say they got martyred, so that is no witnessing of crucifixion or ascension.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi - a peaceful faith in Islam

Paar, The Jewish Faith attested that 2 witnesses were all that was needed. Paul speaks of 500. I’m terribly sorry if no one asked him to produce a list of those 500. Does this make his testimoney invalid?

Also, I don’t see how you are coming up with the conclusion that since the 11 were all marytyred they cannot be witnesses.

Rumor has it that the 489 other witnesses are dead, but since no one can produce a death certificate, we can’t prove that they are dead.

 

[nbarrus]

I, too, thought the reference was to the New Testament. Weren’t the Gospels considered Sacred Scripture by the time the Nicene Creed was written?

 

[ryanoneil]

Jesus is speaking of His ascension after rising from the dead in John 3:13-15

No one has gone up to heaven except the one who has come down from heaven, the Son of Man. And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life."

Jesus is referencing Baruch 3:29

**Who has gone up to the heavens and taken her, or brought her down from the clouds? **

Peace,

Ryan

 

[NotWorthy]

I, too, thought the reference was to the New Testament. Weren’t the Gospels considered Sacred Scripture by the time the Nicene Creed was written?

Absolutely. There was little or no doubt among Christians regarding any of the four Gospels.

There was some who considered other Gospels to be Scriptural during this time, though, although most of them had fallen away.

But around the Nicene Creed’s time, Hebrews and Revelation, Peter, James, and John’s Epistles were still in doubt and the Shepherd of Hermes and Clement’s Epistle to the Corinthians were still widely (though not universally) accepted as Scriptural.