Was it wrong to try to kill Hitler?

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***FONT=“Impact”]This thread is becoming absoultely ridiculous. The OT is full of examples ( long after Moses received the ten commandments from God, amongst which was the one " thou shalt not kill, which so clearly meant “thou shalt not murder”) where the Children of Israel were ordered by God through his prophets such as Elijah, Samuel etc to kill their enemies, slaughter them, leave none of them alive and these orders were carried out by many Kings of Israel including King Saul and King David (who was called a man after God’s own heart)

Early fathers such as Saints Augustine, Great Saints such as Dominic preached the just war, and that error had no place in the Church.

Jesus made a whip and whipped the money lenders out of the temple, and their beasts, overturning the tables of the money lenders. This righteously angry, completley justified and very violent act is mentioned in all four of the Gospels.

In days where extremist Moslems are brainwashing young people into blowing themselves up and allegedly becoming martyrs by their acts, where on the other hand abortionists, homosexuals etc, demand we change the Chuch to suit their warped views, Christians must stand up and be counted.

Of course killing Hitler, Stalin, or any other murdering dictator is perfectly alright. Get a serious grip***!

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The UN has united the world? No, it has not! The UN is a joke! What has the UN done other than rape women? The UN should be kicked out of the U.S. We are a sovereign nation and we do not take orders from the UN, comprised of a bunch of unelected self-serving hypocrites. The German invasion indirectly caused the collapse of the Soviet Union forty years later? No, it did not. Ronald Reagan, one of the greatest Presidents the United States ever had, brought down the Soviet Union. He ended the Cold War without firing a shot. Who or what are the Chines? Do you mean the Chinese? I wouldn’t forget the threat from Islamo-fascists.

i can’t speak on things i don’t know (although sometimes that does not entirely stop me… )

but i do agree, heartily, with one thing you say:

Ronald Reagan, one of the greatest Presidents the United States ever had, brought down the Soviet Union. He ended the Cold War without firing a shot

 

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You scare me. YOu very much are an isolationist, and a conspiracy thoerist. Good-bye.

i feel it is wrong to cut off someone just because you disagree on such a thing…

a satanist…

that’s a different story…

someone like Tiller… ditto…

but something like this… hmm…

 

[Nino]

The commandment actually reads…Thou shalt not commit murder!..killing an insect that is about to bite you is ok…Many evil ones thru out history should have been eliminated for mankinds good…Stalin,Mao,etc etc.for these nations had no way to vote their leaders out…but in this nation we have the ballot over the bullet and so it is 100% wrong to kill anyone that can be removed from a power base by the vote of the people!Albert Spear was not hanged at Nurenberg,he laughed all the way to prison…was finally paroled,wrote a book,made millions and lived into the 80s.a creature of satan who developed the gas chanbers that executed so many innocent Jews and other individuals…so justice in this world is wanting is it not???Thats why there must be a heaven or hell…with purgatory in between…

 

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The commandment actually reads…Thou shalt not commit murder!..killing an insect that is about to bite you is ok…Many evil ones thru out history should have been eliminated for mankinds good…Stalin,Mao,etc etc.for these nations had no way to vote their leaders out…but in this nation we have the ballot over the bullet and so it is 100% wrong to kill anyone that can be removed from a power base by the vote of the people!Albert Spear was not hanged at Nurenberg,he laughed all the way to prison…was finally paroled,wrote a book,made millions and lived into the 80s.a creature of satan who developed the gas chanbers that executed so many innocent Jews and other individuals…so justice in this world is wanting is it not???Thats why there must be a heaven or hell…with purgatory in between…

well, if killing someone who CAN be voted out… would save lives… then i am not so sure waiting for an election would be a good thing. In other words, if what was going on in Nazi germany were going on now… but eveyone just waited to vote the guy out… they should not wait…

the inocent must be protected…

so, apparently… A. Spear never repented? Did you read his book??

 

[CWBetts]

right on.

i will believe you when you have done the following:

when a serial killer comes to your door, ties up your family members and then tells you he is goingto kill them. You have a small pistol in your pocket and when he turns his back on you to begin klling your family members, instead of shooting him, you hand him your only weapon… because you do not want to “murder” him…

You have presented a false dichotomy: kill or be killed. In this situation there are other options. shoot him in the kneecaps, or the groin, or another non-vital area, release my family, detain him, and call the police. “Murder is for the unimaaginitive”–Phoenix (Rachel Summers) in Excalibur: Air Apparrent