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kimmielittle
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When you attack the messenger and NOT the message…I don’t see how you can make that statement?
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kimmielittle
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A researcher uses Wikipedia as a source?
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ringil
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I was responding to a question related examples of false stories attributed to Breitbart.Why you attack the messenger and NOT the message…I don’t see how you can make that statement?
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ringil
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I’m not a researcher, well a political researcher.
You used Breitbart, and . . . uh. . . other fringe “research” sources.
I like Wikipedia, though I could have sourced it somewhere else I guess. For it’s flaws Wikipedia gives nice overviews of subjects.
Yeppers. . . . Can I use yeppers here?
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kimmielittle
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Did she make those statements?
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ringil
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It is so well understood that Breitbart did a smear campaign on this woman.
Really? You are going to defend that whole mess? If so, going back and forth with you is even less worthwhile than I first suspected. You are simply not being honest to if you are playing the ideologue here. Wait, actually you would be playing the ideologue. . .
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kimmielittle
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IMO Reading comprehension is an acquired skill - the little curl-cue thinggie ?] means I asked a question.
Originally Posted by kimmielittle
Did she make those statements?
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ringil
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The video released by Breitbart was a portion of her speech without the context when viewed by the statement directly before and after this snippet it was clear that she did not make a racist statement.
Take a statement from you, me, Romney, Obama, Christ Himself- without the context the individual can be made to say anything and that is what Breitbart did to Sherrod.
Do you believe that Sherrod made a racist statement?
I can’t believe I’m spending my time doing this.
From wikipedia
But, with review of the complete unedited video in full context, the NAACP, White House officials, and Tom Vilsack, the United States Secretary of Agriculture, apologized for the firing and offered Sherrod a new position.
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kimmielittle
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So she did make those statements?
It would seem by that… that there are HALF TRUTHS on BOTH SIDES?
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ringil
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There were no freakin’ HALF TRUTHS!! Breitbart did purposeful a smear campaign.So she did make those statements?
It would seem by that… that there are HALF TRUTHS on BOTH SIDES?
You are not going to acknowledge that?
I’ve said “I could just kill those cats!!” Does that mean I am an animal killer.
Can you stop the game- just for a second???
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kimmielittle
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So you are saying she didn’t make those statements?
How was he able to make the video , if she didn’t?
I don’t make opinions on things I don’t know.
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kimmielittle
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You are spending your time on THIS because you won’t address: This.
AND this:
That is what your initial attack comprised of.
As usual you try and side track.
Can you dispute these?
The game playing was yours…
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ringil
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OK, you are simply being an ideologue. I should have known better- my mistake.So you are saying she didn’t make those statements?
How was he able to make the video , if she didn’t?
I don’t make opinions on things I don’t know.
I have unfortunately flushed an hour of my life down the proverbial toilet.
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LisaA
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I know all about that one. Breitbart released a tape that was not complete and Ms Sherrod redeemed herself later in the tape. Both Breitbart and O’Reilly acknowledged they had not seen the entire tape when it was first published and they apologized. This is far more than the MSM has done with respect to the DOCTORED tapes by the various alphabet soup channels.
Further it was the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION that fired Ms Sherrod WITHOUT getting her side of the story. No apologies there?
What say you about the DOCTORED tapes from the MSM ringil? I guess when the Left does it, that’s ok. You know being on the Left means never having to say you’re sorry.
I do find it laughable that you don’t like idealogues…I think you should modify this to say you don’t like idealogues UNLESS they agree with you.
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kimmielittle
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I’m sorry you didn’t learn something in that hour - But I have no control over what you choose.
The fact is: Mr Breitbart didn’t report this story: Mr Mike Flynn did. YOUR straw man ]
The fact is: Mr Breitbart doesn’t even run Breitbart news - he’s been dead for awhile now. Andrew Breitbart - date and place of death March 1, 2012 · Los Angeles YOUR straw man ]. You might as well be blaming The first crooked journalist who died at NYT or Huffpost for an article today.
The fact is: These numbers came from the OBAMA Team…Nobody else!
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kimmielittle
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I know all about that one. Breitbart released a tape that was not complete and Ms Sherrod redeemed herself later in the tape. Both Breitbart and O’Reilly acknowledged they had not seen the entire tape when it was first published and they apologized. This is far more than the MSM has done with respect to the DOCTORED tapes by the various alphabet soup channels.
Further it was the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION that fired Ms Sherrod WITHOUT getting her side of the story. No apologies there?
What say you about the DOCTORED tapes from the MSM ringil? I guess when the Left does it, that’s ok. You know being on the Left means never having to say you’re sorry.
I do find it laughable that you don’t like idealogues…I think you should modify this to say you don’t like idealogues UNLESS they agree with you.
Lisa
Hmmm… Sounds like wikipedia was only telling HALF TRUTHS…who’d thunk it?
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LisaA
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Didn’t read the Wikipedia story but have learned to take their info with a grain of salt. I followed Breitbart from the beginning and even heard his interview with Hugh Hewitt the afternoon of his totally unexpected death. Breitbart was an amazing guy, started out on the far Left and unlike some grew up
. His take down of ACORN was a shot across the bow. He was a journalist in the tradition of Woodward and Bernstein back when they WERE investigative journalists.He was blindsided by the Sherrod story. Not sure if they determined he was set up or if he got a little careless but he was sent a portion of a tape where Ms Sherrod sounded VERY racist. Later in the tape she did redeem herself but the real story was how the folks in the audience hooted, howled and cheered when she said she had specifically treated a white farmer differently. That’s the scandal, that racism seems to only go one way. At any rate the tape was published and the Obama administration as usual threw Ms Sherrod under the bus without getting her side of the story.
Later when the rest of the tape surfaced both Breitbart and O’Reilly apologized for showing what they thought was the entire statement. There was ZERO evidence that they were deliberately targeting Ms Sherrod. She was basically an unknown. The story was with respect to the racist approach to some of these government programs. Ms Sherrod was simply a messenger and the racist portion of her message was applauded. Really shows how far we’ve come since the Jim Crow days
Subsequently and previously, Breitbart’s exposes were never debunked or in contrast to the network stories on Zimmerman, Romney, etc were never deliberately doctored. I have found Breitbart to be a credible source. Yes it is Right leaning and I understand they are not running around looking for stories to demonize Tea Party members as do the MSM. But facts are pesky things. When ringil finds a few in the morass of the MSM I’ll be glad to consider them.
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kimmielittle
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Thank you for the rest of the story. I first became aware of Breitbart because of the Mr Zimmerman case. It was the ONLY source that questioned what was printed, at that time.Didn’t read the Wikipedia story but have learned to take their info with a grain of salt. I followed Breitbart from the beginning and even heard his interview with Hugh Hewitt the afternoon of his totally unexpected death. Breitbart was an amazing guy, started out on the far Left and unlike some grew up
He was blindsided by the Sherrod story. Not sure if they determined he was set up or if he got a little careless but he was sent a portion of a tape where Ms Sherrod sounded VERY racist. Later in the tape she did redeem herself but the real story was how the folks in the audience hooted, howled and cheered when she said she had specifically treated a white farmer differently. That’s the scandal, that racism seems to only go one way. At any rate the tape was published and the Obama administration as usual threw Ms Sherrod under the bus without getting her side of the story.
Later when the rest of the tape surfaced both Breitbart and O’Reilly apologized for showing what they thought was the entire statement. There was ZERO evidence that they were deliberately targeting Ms Sherrod. She was basically an unknown. The story was with respect to the racist approach to some of these government programs. Ms Sherrod was simply a messenger and the racist portion of her message was applauded. Really shows how far we’ve come since the Jim Crow days
Subsequently and previously, Breitbart’s exposes were never debunked or in contrast to the network stories on Zimmerman, Romney, etc were never deliberately doctored. I have found Breitbart to be a credible source. Yes it is Right leaning and I understand they are not running around looking for stories to demonize Tea Party members as do the MSM. But facts are pesky things. When ringil finds a few in the morass of the MSM I’ll be glad to consider them.
Lisa
PS I will state that ringil seems to choose me as a personal target - never debating with logic or seldom with references.
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