Watching My marriage go to Ruins

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You and your wife need to prayerfully consider some alternatives to what you are currently doing. It seems unwise to put yourself knowingly in harms way, when you have been warned. What needs to be most important is the children- who need their mother, not the memory of her. One of you has to take precautions if another pregnancy is so dangerous. Could it not be God himself warning you by giving you advance notice to take another action? I know obeying your faith is important but there have to be some exceptions to the rule. No one can deny you and your wifes commitment to life and what God commands- but you have children to consider now who need you both as long as possible.
Just my opinion, for what it is worth.
 
Deeply Concerned,

I’ve really been thinking about this thread for a while, and praying for you, your wife, and even everyone here on the forums, that we all allow the Holy Spirit to guide our words to one another.

With several young ones, a busy work week, plus this issue weighing heavy on your heart, you have a lot to balance.

But I am begging you to set aside some time to look at these links, and possibly even calling the Pope Paul VI institute for help:

www.creightonmodel.com

www.popepaulvi.com
The home page for the Pope Paul VI Institute. Contains information about education programs, events, NaProTECHNOLOGY, CrMS, and more. Their phone # is: (402) 390-6600

www.naprotechnology.com
The home page for NaProTECHNOLOGY. Contains information about the new women’s health science and about its foundation.

www.fertilitycare.org
The home page for the FertilityCare™ Centers of America (FCCA) with directory of FertilityCare affiliates.

www.aafcp.org
The home page for the American Academy of FertilityCare Professionals.

There are answers out there to your questions & concerns! They may come in a different form than you expect, but pray for the grace and wisdom to recognize them. Please do not allow despair to take over your concern–hang in there & keep seeking the truth, together *with *your wife.
 
I agree with LittleDeb.

Learn NFP. It might take anywhere from 3 to 9 months to learn it well, but it is very very very effective.
 
I agree with LittleDeb.

Learn NFP. It might take anywhere from 3 to 9 months to learn it well, but it is very very very effective.
Actually, they have tried NFP - at least one method and have two of their four children as a result of being really fertile :D.

I am going to use this as a jumping point though for you, DeeplyConcerned, and your wife to explore some of the other methods of NFP. StephanieC. has given you some good sites to explore to do this. Your little family is in my prayers.

Brenda V.
 
I thought that I would go through a number of events in life that “kill” for lack of a better word, the spontanaiety of desires for sexual intercourse: first and foremost ought to simply be the opposite sex in the matter, simply saying, “no”.

Think about the situations in life a person experiences as well, albeit people vary tremendously in the risk willing to be taken, for having sexual intercourse: you’re in a classroom, with all students, and instructors present at the moment, and you desire to have sex with your “mate”. The mate isn’t there, but actually on schedule to return from New York City, from a business a trip two wks. from now, a vacation is in order that the two of you will take, and this is looking like a ripe opportunity for sexually passionate romance of course, as it would turn out–the room service is more of a turn-on to your mate, which you learn about at another time: the spontanaeity of sexual desires became more attractive than the scheduled time for ardent desires, and the relationship ended, on both counts: scheduled and spontaneously, in two big words, one from each person “no”. Hypocritically, you try ending unplanned pregnancies, while seeking continuously spontaneous sexual intercourse; all the while denying you and another the intimacy of conversation in the morning waking up to chart a woman’s body for fertility signs, which would undoubtedly prevent the death of your wife; had you a wife; whom medically, professionals have determined would certainly die with the birth, or the pregnancy of another child; so, you seek the spontanaity of sexual intercourse like some fourteen year old running on her fourth or fifth abortion, thinking this is the one who will love you, because you never gave much thought to whom it is you will love. Spontanaity is sexy, and the divorce rate has declined with it, and the element of surprise and therefore, spontanaity of rape, well–there is something everyone has thoroughly enjoyed!
 
Well Deeply, you reject any and all advice given to you and you have an excuse for everything! It sounds like you just want to find a reason to be miserable!
SHHHH. Don’t say that. He is miserable but if he were not listening (reading) he wouldn’t keep coming back for more. I think he is just writing down his doubting thoughts, but we can never know if he is growing and learning.

When people say “yes I hear you BUT what about XYZ…” They are just arguing to sort out all their fears. They want to understand you and the possibly good message you have.
 
…When people say “yes I hear you BUT what about XYZ…” They are just arguing to sort out all their fears. They want to understand you and the possibly good message you have.
Thank you for your words there in the quote above–I really enjoyed reading them and plan to remember them to whatever extent that I may, to use them in the future.
 
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