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When the young man asked Christ what he must do to have eternal life what is the very first thing Christ said?
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Cristiano
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You are completely off track on this. This is a Catholic person trying to understand how to follow the requirements of the Catholics Church. You might disagree with the Catholic Church but this has nothing to do with it.
It would be like a Muslim trying to find a proper manner to slaughter a goat, and you telling him that is fine to eat pork.
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Cristiano
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This is not the end of the discussion. I do not think that it is appropriate for a poster in this forum to make such a clear statement about her ability to receive communion. You are not the priest confessing her. First, just looking at someone with lust is adultery and thus grave matter. Second the scandal may or may not be mitigated by such circumstances. It is for a priest to decide that.
I want to stress one more time that in this forum we can bring up and discuss the dogmas and disciplines of the Church. However, only the priest that has the pastoral care of the individual can make clear statements about the spiritual status of the person.
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whatevergirl
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Mortal sin isn’t merely involving an act…but it requires three things for it to be considered a mortal sin. First, someone needs to fully understand that something is mortal sin and be cuplable for the act…so, if someone looks at another with lust, perhaps fleetingly, but maybe it was just an automatic reaction to something…it is not adultery.
Father Corapi actually states very clearly that we should not condemn anyone in his/her sin. We simply don’t have the ability to do so…now, we can help guide someone away from something that appears to be leading them down a sinful path. I would absolutely say that living with a married man is obviously wrong…and one doesn’t need to be Cathollic to know that. I think the ‘hang up’ with this particular poster’s situation, is that the man she is living with is in the process of getting an annulment, so as humans, we justify that in our minds saying…well, he’s not really married…but, in fact he still is.
To the OP–I think that talking to a priest would be your best bet, and if the priest thinks what you’re doing is wrong…from a Godly perspective, then I believe that God will provide you with another place to stay. God doesn’t direct us to go against His word, no matter what the outward situation is…I mean, if you didn’t know this man…where would you live? I think sometimes, we just justify things to make life easier for ourselves… I have done this myself in my life, so I know what you’re going through. (different situations, but same end result) I will keep you in my prayers…!! Please pm me if you ever wanna chat.
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whatevergirl
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I do agree that we cannot make the assessment if she could received communion. I would imagine if one is living in a brother sister manner…but, I’m not a priest…and in thinking this through more, living with a married man could be seen as scandalous, even if they are living chastely. Good point.
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mercygate
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I was simply repeating what the OP’s priest had already told her.
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fabricdragon
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first of all, the final arbiter on this is your “chain of command”, which is your priest or bishop, or cardinal, and so on up to the pope. All we can do is give your our interpretations… and we do not have all the facts that your priest would.
from what you have posted there are very good grounds for an annulment. (good, that makes it much simpler)
until his annulment is final, he is married (obviously)
while the two of YOU are not married, you should not be having intimate relations. (simple)
living in the same apartment, but as “brother and sister” is not sinful, although it CAN be a problem in cuasing scandal, or being a temptation. given the current conditions in your area, i am certain it is less of an issue than it would be here.
in any event. if your confessions are thorough, and your priest knows the issues, and HE says you can receive communion, you absolutely SHOULD do so. and ask Jesus to strengthen you and your boyfriend so that you may avoid temptation, and have a good marriage when it becomes possible.
if for some reason you cannot take communion, then go to church, and do your best to “recieve communion in your heart” and spend time with the blessed sacrement.
bless you, and good luck to you in finding a rapid solution.
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agapewolf
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Actually he did… in scripture, it says this:
1Cor11:29
For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.
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fix
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Discusssions regarding potential adultery do not involve the commandments? I understand you do not accept the authority of the Church.
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Cristiano
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You are right. It looks like we (I really mean myself) are starting to go in a circle in this forum.
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Neil_Anthony
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Dear Denise,
**It must be awful for you to be reading this thread. ** You recently became a Catholic (congratulations) and now people are telling you some really upsetting things in an online forum. Keep in mind that often the people who post online may have a bit of theoretical knowledge but lack common sense and emotional IQ.
I know it’s quite a shock to realize that some things of your life you took for granted as normal now have to change. But don’t get too overwhelmed. It sounds like you’re just realizing that 1) you’re cohabitating, which normally wouldn’t be the right thing, and 2) technically, your ‘boyfriend’ is married to another woman!
However, you two are obviously pretty serious and it must be quite a shock to find out that you have to put your relationship completely on hold until he gets his annulment. It might simply not be something you can accept. If you can’t accept it, then you shouldn’t go to communion if you’re having sex before married, and especially with someone who is technically still married in the eyes of God. On the other hand, pray for strength, and if God gives you the strengh to put off dating this guy until he gets the annulment, and to not sleep with him until you’re married, then that’s great! But if you aren’t there, don’t give up. Just continue praying, going to mass, but not receiving communion.
**It must be awful for you to be reading this thread. ** You recently became a Catholic (congratulations) and now people are telling you some really upsetting things in an online forum. Keep in mind that often the people who post online may have a bit of theoretical knowledge but lack common sense and emotional IQ.
I know it’s quite a shock to realize that some things of your life you took for granted as normal now have to change. But don’t get too overwhelmed. It sounds like you’re just realizing that 1) you’re cohabitating, which normally wouldn’t be the right thing, and 2) technically, your ‘boyfriend’ is married to another woman!
There are certainly reasons why someone might be justified in living with someone they’re interested in romantically before being married. And your situation is a classic example of a situation where exceptions apply: you’re living in a disaster zone! You can share a home with anyone you want under those circumstances.
However, you two are obviously pretty serious and it must be quite a shock to find out that you have to put your relationship completely on hold until he gets his annulment. It might simply not be something you can accept. If you can’t accept it, then you shouldn’t go to communion if you’re having sex before married, and especially with someone who is technically still married in the eyes of God. On the other hand, pray for strength, and if God gives you the strengh to put off dating this guy until he gets the annulment, and to not sleep with him until you’re married, then that’s great! But if you aren’t there, don’t give up. Just continue praying, going to mass, but not receiving communion.
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Sinners should not be baptized?
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CuriousInIL
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I must say that I think this thread has set a new record in at least one respect. For 32 posts, the answers have been (more or less) on the topic of whether the OP can receive communion or not. No one has answered the Title question “We are cohabitating can we still take communion?” with “You do not take communion you receive it.”
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mercygate
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Quibble, quibble, quibble. The Boss said “Take and eat” – But as you say: that is NOT the topic at hand.
Hey, Denise! Hope it all works out for you.
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Cristiano
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This is a thread on “moral theology” and not “family life”. I agree with you that we might lack emotional IQ. But I think that you go out on a limb when to talk about common sense. For a Catholic “common sense” is the equivalent of “natural law” and is based on learning and following the precepts of the Church. The “common” refers to the Catholic community and not to the secular community. We are in this world and not of this world.
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mgrfin
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I disagree. I believe the very first post after the question was posed answers the question. Please goto Post #2.
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denise_wallace
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thank you so much! you sound like you really know what you are talking about and i thank you for your advice. i am able to recieve communion. if we were living in any other state than just “brother and sister” i feel that i could not commune in good conscience. basically this is what was told to me by the teachers in my RCIA class. there are certain sins that we must first go to confession for in order to be released of our sins. because that which is loosed on earth shall also be loosed in heaven. after confession and repentence we may commune.
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Originally Posted by Roman20this person here needs to go look in the bible and read 1 cor: 11:27. this verse and the ones that follow are the reason for this post in the first place and I don’t want to recieve communion if i am unworthy i don’t want to have to answar for the body and blood of Christ.
my teachers in RCIA say i worry too much as do others. I think we should all worry a little more and be more mindfull of what the Lord wants from us. after all if it wasn’t for him we wouldn’t even be here or have the opportunity for eternal life!
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CuriousInIL
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You misunderstand me. I was not saying that was no answer to the overall inquiry. My point was noting that (very unusually) no one had made the distinction between the “take” language in the title question and the proper terminolgy of receiving.
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