We are cohabitating can we still take communion

[NoxSineStellae]

I think she’s said multiple times that she’s spoken to her pastor, and he understands the living situation and has given her permission to receive communion because they are not having sex…am I misunderstanding, Denise?

From what I’ve been told by people who have seen it first hand, the area affected by Katrina still essentially looks like a war zone. I heard one man who had been in Japan after the bombs say it was comparable. I don’t think this is a case of doing the “easy” thing - she’s explained the situation to her priest and has received his permission to continue rooming with her boyfriend, since they are not engaged in any sort of sexual behavior. Her PRIEST, who is there, who knows her and the situation, has said she’s ok and doesn’t have to go live in a car. I’m surprised at the number of people who assume they know better than her pastor.

And “putting yourself in temptation’s path”…honestly, not everyone is driven by a desperate need for sex they cannot control. Some people can master their baser, animal instincts, are not weak for the flesh, and shouldn’t be painted with the same brush as those that can’t.

 

[mercygate]

I think she’s said multiple times that she’s spoken to her pastor, and he understands the living situation and has given her permission to receive communion because they are not having sex…am I misunderstanding, Denise?

From what I’ve been told by people who have seen it first hand, the area affected by Katrina still essentially looks like a war zone. I heard one man who had been in Japan after the bombs say it was comparable. I don’t think this is a case of doing the “easy” thing - she’s explained the situation to her priest and has received his permission to continue rooming with her boyfriend, since they are not engaged in any sort of sexual behavior. Her PRIEST, who is there, who knows her and the situation, has said she’s ok and doesn’t have to go live in a car. I’m surprised at the number of people who assume they know better than her pastor.

And “putting yourself in temptation’s path”…honestly, not everyone is driven by a desperate need for sex they cannot control. Some people can master their baser, animal instincts, are not weak for the flesh, and shouldn’t be painted with the same brush as those that can’t.

This thread has been an education in presumption. Although the original post left important questions unanswered, the number of people who jumped on board to shout: “Fie! Fie” AFTER the salient points were brought out is frightening.

Poor Denise. I’ll bet she regrets ever posting this at all. Sounds like she is a very conscientious young woman who would not have been living as she is except for the drastic circumstances that Hurricane Katrina placed upon her.

I have also heard from missionaries down there that New Orleans is still a catastrophic wasteland.

 

[denise_wallace]

I think she’s said multiple times that she’s spoken to her pastor, and he understands the living situation and has given her permission to receive communion because they are not having sex…am I misunderstanding, Denise?

From what I’ve been told by people who have seen it first hand, the area affected by Katrina still essentially looks like a war zone. I heard one man who had been in Japan after the bombs say it was comparable. I don’t think this is a case of doing the “easy” thing - she’s explained the situation to her priest and has received his permission to continue rooming with her boyfriend, since they are not engaged in any sort of sexual behavior. Her PRIEST, who is there, who knows her and the situation, has said she’s ok and doesn’t have to go live in a car. I’m surprised at the number of people who assume they know better than her pastor.

And “putting yourself in temptation’s path”…honestly, not everyone is driven by a desperate need for sex they cannot control. Some people can master their baser, animal instincts, are not weak for the flesh, and shouldn’t be painted with the same brush as those that can’t.

thank you very much! i think the older we are and more wiser and aware of what God wants from us makes it easier to master the “animal instincts”.

 

[Ron_Conte]

The term cohabitation is often used to refer to sexual union outside of marriage. So this explains some of the negative reactions to the question.

How did you go from atheist to Catholic?
Was meeting your current boyfriend the cause of your conversion?

 

[denise_wallace]

The term cohabitation is often used to refer to sexual union outside of marriage. So this explains some of the negative reactions to the question.

How did you go from atheist to Catholic?
Was meeting your current boyfriend the cause of your conversion?

after the hurricane many things happened in my life that made me realize that there was a higher power at work here. there were just too many things that happened to me for them to be coincedenses. i was raised atheist but when i was around 16 was iterested it the Bible and Jesus. I went to a church here and there through my life weddings funerals etc… had Bibles and read them. but after the storm i went to a few different churches. i went to a united methodist church for 6 months. at that time i was reading every day quite a lot. had decided it was very important to be baptized. it was a must for me. In my quest for “the right church and religion for me” i stumble across the Catholic church that i go to now. the first day i went there was with a group of people and one of them was my bf. One of the things about Catholic religion is that it can be dated back to the time of the Bible. I feel that the Catholic church ic Jesuses one true church the one that he founded, his wife so to say and how can you have more than one wife? The Catholic church is the church of our Savior. I felt connected to my church and like i belonged from the first day i entered it. after going there for a while i asked someone about being batized and got started in the RCIA program.
Everything in GODS world happens for a reason. To not believe this or to critisize and not accept everything and everyone in GODS world exactly the way they are is to critisize GOD and his wonderful works!

 

[mercygate]

after the hurricane many things happened in my life that made me realize that there was a higher power at work here. there were just too many things that happened to me for them to be coincedenses. i was raised atheist but when i was around 16 was iterested it the Bible and Jesus. I went to a church here and there through my life weddings funerals etc… had Bibles and read them. but after the storm i went to a few different churches. i went to a united methodist church for 6 months. at that time i was reading every day quite a lot. had decided it was very important to be baptized. it was a must for me. In my quest for “the right church and religion for me” i stumble across the Catholic church that i go to now. the first day i went there was with a group of people and one of them was my bf. One of the things about Catholic religion is that it can be dated back to the time of the Bible. I feel that the Catholic church ic Jesuses one true church the one that he founded, his wife so to say and how can you have more than one wife? The Catholic church is the church of our Savior. I felt connected to my church and like i belonged from the first day i entered it. after going there for a while i asked someone about being batized and got started in the RCIA program.
Everything in GODS world happens for a reason. To not believe this or to critisize and not accept everything and everyone in GODS world exactly the way they are is to critisize GOD and his wonderful works!

QUITE a story! I hope the next chapter will be WITHOUT catastrophic huricanes. Are you planning to relocate – outside of N.O.

 

[CuriousInIL]

and as for the last part of your quote i am done with RCIA I am part of the church and i have been told i can go to communion. By the Preist! We are suppose to love everyone so there is nothing wrong with who i love as long as i act appropriately. At this time i am worthy of the eucharist. I have no plans or thaughts about changing my worthyness.

Hopefully you understand that the last part of the quote was the quote of Fr. Serpa’s AAA answer and was not a response to you.

 

[wifeandmomoftwo]

! We are suppose to love everyone so there is nothing wrong with who i love as long as i act appropriately. .

Loving a man, that is not your husband & that is already married is appropriate?
Living with a married man who is NOT YOUR husband, is appropriate??



I can just imagine all the confused kiddies/adults at your church that know your roommate is married and living with another woman (even though nothing sexual is happening)…not very appropriate, but as long as your priest says its ok I am sure it is:shrug:

 

[Cristiano]

At this time i am worthy of the eucharist. I have no plans or thaughts about changing my worthyness.

Not to burst your bubble, but NOBODY is worthy the Eucharist. We are gifted with it, and even if we are allowed to receive it under state of grace that does not imply us being worthy.

 

[kage_ar]

Might you be able to put up a notice at the Parish or a line in the bulletin to find a room with a family or a single lady or an elderly woman that you can rent? If not in your Parish, chech at neighboring Churches. There has to be someone who would rent you a room or even exchange some work for a room.

 

[denise_wallace]

Not to burst your bubble, but NOBODY is worthy the Eucharist. We are gifted with it, and even if we are allowed to receive it under state of grace that does not imply us being worthy.

St. Paul in Corinthians 11: 26-30 warns against receiving the Eucharist unworthily.

this was written to me in the thread here and that was what i was refereing to. if we are worthy then fine we have nothing to worry about if not then we have to answar to the body and blood of
Christ. so i guess maybe Jesus thaught some of us are worthy. and after that it is up to him and me if you or i was worthy at the time. i Suppose the Virgin Mary was worthy. and i am sure that others were worthy and are worthy that is only for Him to judge! so i guess you didn’t burst my bubble!

 

[mercygate]

St. Paul in Corinthians 11: 26-30 warns against receiving the Eucharist unworthily.

this was written to me in the thread here and that was what i was refereing to. if we are worthy then fine we have nothing to worry about if not then we have to answar to the body and blood of
Christ. so i guess maybe Jesus thaught some of us are worthy. and after that it is up to him and me if you or i was worthy at the time. i Suppose the Virgin Mary was worthy. and i am sure that others were worthy and are worthy that is only for Him to judge! so i guess you didn’t burst my bubble!

We are worthy under his mercy and by his Blood.

Honestly, some people are such CRANKS!

 

[larry85704]

Hi.

Gosh Denise, please believe me when I say this site has some pretty messed up Catholics. Priests cohabitate, nuns cohabitate. You asked about communion and cohabitation. Absolutely you can take communion. That is not true if you are having sex. I think you know that.

I wish you and your boyfriend a wonderful life together.

Larry.

 

[denise_wallace]

Loving a man, that is not your husband & that is already married is appropriate?
Living with a married man who is NOT YOUR husband, is appropriate??



I can just imagine all the confused kiddies/adults at your church that know your roommate is married and living with another woman (even though nothing sexual is happening)…not very appropriate, but as long as your priest says its ok I am sure it is:shrug:

guess what there were 100s of people living under the same roof at one time down here. what ever cot or bed you got by whomever was fine as long as you had a place to lay your head! we found it appropriate cause that is all we have! it is called servival down here! you would not imagine the things we ate just to servive! so guess what i really don’t care what you think. I only care about what the lord thinks about me! i only care about helping my neighbor getting through this too! and if she has to have 10 men living with her and tells me they are living like brother and sister i have to believe her word and not judge because that is what Jesus has asked us to do!

loving anyone in GODS world is appropriate as long as our actions and behavior is appropriate towards them. GOD wants us to love everyone! it would be a perfect world if we could all love and accept everyone for who they are at this moment as Jesus does.
If he was my brother there would not be a problem. if he was Jesus there would not be a problem. is there not some places is the bible that talks about if someone should knock you should let him in you may not know it is him the Lord?
the only people that attend my parish that knew his wife are his and her own family and they approve. She doesn’t even live around here. Who am I to judge another? I am not. I will not Judge my neighbor. If that is what you or someone else wants to do i have no controle over that. I do not and will not judge others. i will only worry about the condition of myself. so if i were in the presence of the Lord tomarrow i could say no Lord i did not judge my brother or my neighbor. I have done my best to be a good Christian. and follow the laws of the Lord. I would fall flat on my face and beg him to forgive me if there was anything that I have done wrong that i was not aware of. and to forgive me for my imperfections!
Befor you judge another you need to look at yourself.
befor you judge one of us that has had to live through this hurricane. Go through it yourself first. Until you have walked one inch in my shoes down here in this “war zone” you have no room to talk!!!

 

[denise_wallace]

Hopefully you understand that the last part of the quote was the quote of Fr. Serpa’s AAA answer and was not a response to you.

ok no problem sorry! i am getting a bit worked up over all this any way. i need i think to quit looking at this thread and just move on.

 

[denise_wallace]

Hi.

Gosh Denise, please believe me when I say this site has some pretty messed up Catholics. Priests cohabitate, nuns cohabitate. You asked about communion and cohabitation. Absolutely you can take communion. That is not true if you are having sex. I think you know that.

I wish you and your boyfriend a wonderful life together.

Larry.

thank you larry! and you know what you are so right!

 

[denise_wallace]

We are worthy under his mercy and by his Blood.

Honestly, some people are such CRANKS!

You got that right!

 

[bear06]

no it isn’t. I was taught that if your spouse cheats on you that you should forgive them and then stay with then and try to work things out. the first and second time that happened he did take her back and tried to make things work. there are other things that make it so that he will get an annulment. it has to be things from the time of the marriage. like one of the parties had never intended to be faithful or they knew at the time of the marriage that they were not going to uphold the marriage contract. there are a lot more reasons also. the other one that we have is that she told him that they were trying to have a baby while she was secretly on “the pill” this is a big violation. refusal to give your spouce children when you are capable is a sin and grounds for an annulment. i know someone that got an annulment because just that and no other reason. her annulment only took less than a year. adaultry alone is not grounds for an annulment.

I feel for you. That said, no priest should be encouraging dating until an annullment is a done deal. It’s not up to your priest, it’s up to a tribunal. This could take a long while (despite the fact your friend got one quickly) and until the Church says he was never married, he should be considered married. Refusal to give your spouse children is not always grounds for an annullment. That could depend on the timing. For example, birth control is not in and of itself grounds for annullment. Her actions and intentions at the time of the marriage would have to be enough for him not to have married her. Was she promiscuous at the time of entering into the marriage without his knowledge. While she was keeping the secret at the time of separation, was she ever using birth control with his knowledge? Was her intention never to have children with him? Was it to be temporary? Etc., etc., etc. There are a lot of factors that should be taken into account and timing is everything. If her intent when she erntered into the marriage was valid, then you could be stuck. Again, no priest should be banking on an annullment. It’s quite possible that, after investigation, the tribunal could find out things that aren’t known to you.

 

[vocatio]

Larry…Denise…
I guess I’m a crank then. I’ve been called worse things…but many of us are concerned about the real issue. My parents were married divorce and remarried without an annulment until I was older. It’s not a little thing. It’s NOT a Catholic divorce. Ignoring is not the answer. If your parish priest says it’s okay…then go by what he said. I know the situation in Louisiana…most of my family live there. If you are not engaging in something that is a mortal sin…then you are allowed to receive the Eucharist. I’ve just learned a bunch of things this past year and this may fall under an acception. However, engaging in anykind of infedelity would be a mortal sin. As long as your boyfriend is marked with the sign of marraige under the church. If so, even kissing or dating would be an issue. I went to St. Joseph Seminary College in Covington. I came out of the Lafayete Diocese. [meaning I know the area and I konw what things are like there] I am very Catholic and make it a point to learn my faith. Learning takes a lifetime. I am also seeking the diaconate. The reason I left the Church was because of the messed up Catholics in Louisiana. Most of my family have left or are cafateria Catholics. My dad was a very conservative Catholic and my mother was anti-Catholic. So I’ve had to dig much deeper than most. However, I know to rely upon my pastor as long as he is following the teachings of the Church…How do I know…I learn the teachings of the Church. We lived in a different age from long ago when the faithful relied upon the orthodoxy of their priests to guide them right. We should still be able to do so… but we are baptized in sharing the inheritance of Christ as Pries, Prophet and King. I hope things are changing there…My pastor seems to still think things are messed up there. I trust him…he’s a very good and well known priest. He’s a Franciscan Friar, T.O.R. He’s one that helped to defend the children in the 80’s before everything surfaced. He’s the priest I wanted to be.

I spoke with a seminarian today and am putting him on our special prayer list. He helped me gets some seminary shirst for my son’s Christmas present this year. He’s thinking about becoming a priest.

However, assuming things work out you will end up being okay. Just don’t treat things so lightly. Know that God loves you…but don’t take Him for granted either. Think about this…is this how you want to start in your new faith…a cafateria Catholic? Not that that is what you’re doing. But to blow off serious or even the "near occasion of sin is an issue and tells a story about oneself. If your RCIA was good then you should know the answer to your question already. My pastor did not tell me that I was to abstain from the Eucharist until I lived Chaste as brother and sister. I made the mistake and had to confess it afterwards. I did not know. But he clarified later that I could receive as long as I lived as brother and sister until after our convalidation. We waited about 4 months. It was a great experience. But we have 3 biological children and were all members of an evangelical fundamentalist church.

Do what you will…but it’s your choice.
Prayers for you.

 

[vocatio]

In a quick read of bear 06 he is right. He just goes into a lot more detail.

I am praying for you.