We have a POPE!!!!

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jwinch2 said:
The picture of him being “blessed” by protestant ministers is disturbing actually, though to be fair, I do not know the context of that photo. However, today he was very careful to be proper when he asked the faithful to pray for God to bless him, rather than directly asking for their blessing.

Time will tell I suppose.
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The picture is from June 19, 2006 at the Third Fraternal Encounter of the Renewed Communion of Evangelicals and Catholics

Notice the dude in the long brown habit with the cord around his waist? Notice everyone is looking at him? That is Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa (yup…Catholic priest), he is the one giving the blessing. What the other non-Catholics are doing during a Catholic blessing is irrelevant.
 
Dawnia said:
The picture is from June 19, 2006 at the Third Fraternal Encounter of the Renewed Communion of Evangelicals and Catholics

Notice the dude in the long brown habit with the cord around his waist? Notice everyone is looking at him? That is Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa (yup…Catholic priest), he is the one giving the blessing. What the other non-Catholics are doing during a Catholic blessing is irrelevant.
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That is why I said that we don’t know the context, so I am giving the Pope the benefit of the doubt.

It comes down to what his intent was during that time. If his intent was to be blessed merely by the priest who was present, then we have no issues other than the potential to give scandal through the situation, which could have been avoided by turning towards the priest, etc. However, if the intent was to receive a blessing from others, then the situation is quite different. Perhaps there is a third option where he did not ask for a blessing but rather for them to pray for God to bless him, as he did yesterday in Rome. In that case, things would be even better yet, with the exception of the unfortunate picture.
 
Oh oh, there is news that the Italian Bischop’s conference mistakenly congratulated Angelo Cardinal Scola per Email immediately after the election of Pope Francis. :o
 
kelvinf said:
Oh oh, there is news that the Italian Bischop’s conference mistakenly congratulated Angelo Cardinal Scola per Email immediately after the election of Pope Francis. :o
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If that’s true, OOPS! 😃

Oh well, we all make mistakes.
 
He may not (despite what the NYT and others int MMM think) have been picked because he’s from South America. I’m no expert but he seems humble and orthodox and this is the direction the Church needs to continue, IMHO. Regardless of how many of our sheep jump off a cliff. With his leadership maybe we can get some of those back in the fold before it’s too late.
 
kelvinf said:
Oh oh, there is news that the Italian Bischop’s conference mistakenly congratulated Angelo Cardinal Scola per Email immediately after the election of Pope Francis. :o
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Kind of reminds me of “Dewy Wins!” 😃
 
WildeKurt said:
He may not (despite what the NYT and others int MMM think) have been picked because he’s from South America. I’m no expert but he seems humble and orthodox and this is the direction the Church needs to continue, IMHO. Regardless of how many of our sheep jump off a cliff. With his leadership maybe we can get some of those back in the fold before it’s too late.
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I’m paraphrasing here, but I just watched the Holy Fathers first Mass and in his homily he said: the Church is a Church of movement, but not all movement is good, sometimes it takes you backwards.

This type of language makes me uneasy.
 
That statement makes me very happy. It takes a humble man of God to admit mistakes.
 
jwinch2 said:
I believe what he is suggesting is that yes, the Holy Spirit can guide the electors, but only if they are willing to listen and cooperate with God’s influence. God does not force, and thus the Cardinals are entirely capable of electing a man who was not God’s choice.

I am not saying that has happened here, and I don’t believe he is either, merely trying to shed some light on how I interpreted the post you replied to above.
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Why does there have to be politicking when voting for a pope? Can’t people just let the holy spirit tell them to vote for the person?
 
The priest today in his homily mentioned reports on NPR that some people had been reported jumping out of windows because of the election of Pope Francis. He quipped comically, “That’s a good sign!” lol

I have no idea what reports he was talking about-- just passing on a little pulpit humor, take it or leave it. 🙂
 
DlandFan06 said:
Why does there have to be politicking when voting for a pope? Can’t people just let the holy spirit tell them to vote for the person?
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Are the Cardinal Electors less human than you or I? And who said anything about politics? All that was mentioned is that our own humanity can get in the way of listening to or even discerning God’s will. If we are not open to the influence of the Holy Spirit, our actions will not be guided by Him.
 
“When we don’t walk, we are stuck. When we don’t build on the rock, what happens? It’s what happens to children when they build a sand castle and it all then falls down,” the new pontiff said.

“When we walk without the cross, when we build without the cross and when we confess without the cross, we are not disciples of Christ. We are mundane,” he said. "We are all but disciples of our Lord.

“I would like for all of us, after these days of grace, that we find courage to walk in the presence of God … and to build the church with the blood of Christ,” he continued. “Only this way will the church move forward.”
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From the Holy Father’s homily at Mass this morning. :gopray2:
 
cheezey said:
It continues to truly pain me that we cannot see the worship of Christ as unifying in itself.
The methods are different, may the method be unified one day, and Praise be to God that the Christian Churches ALL know that Christ Died for us all and that that is unifying unto itself.
May God grant me the ability to express this more eloquently one day very soon.

I know nothing of this event, but just as I have knelt out of respect to Christ and the method of worship in a Catholic Church (prior to the desire of converting), just as I have lit a candle out of respect to Christ and the method of worship in another Christian Church, neither of which I was previously familiar, perhaps this was done out of respect for another faith and method of worshipping of the Same and Glorious Jesus Christ; not for agreement of it, but for acknowledging that despite the many methods, many road, we choose to follow The Way. The Lord Jesus Christ. In that, we are unified. For that, I praise God.
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I agree with you completely. Those who want our new pope to unify all Christian churches into one Catholic Church will probably be disappointed. Jesuits are known to be tolerant of other religions and keep things simple, like all of us sharing our love and devotion to the same God.

Growing up in a Jesuit parish and working at a Jesuit school I rarely heard that this person or that person was going to hell, something I read on this site way to much. Jesuits focus on the good people do and can do in the world. They bring people into the church with forgiveness and love, not damnation and fear. I believe Pope Francis will make it simple, focusing on the most important things about are faith and not all these “amendments” that have come from the men in the church over the last few centuries.

He will be about compassion, just my opinion.
 
DlandFan06 said:
Why does there have to be politicking when voting for a pope? Can’t people just let the holy spirit tell them to vote for the person?
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Sorry but it is hard to believe that all of those cardinals, some desperately wanting to be the next pope, were all inspired by the Holy Spirit over those few day.

Funny thing is that Pope Francis, as a Jesuit, could not have started out with a desire to one day be pope because Jesuits are not allowed to accept such high honors. That is one of the biggest reason I think The Holy Spirit had such a strong influence this time.

The head of the Jesuit in the US, Fr. James Martin S.J. said in an article that Pope Francis was relieved of his vow of poverty when the Pope asked him to be the cardinal of Argentina. Service to God is seen as more important than the vow of poverty; “For the Great Glory of God”.
 
Dawnia said:
The picture is from June 19, 2006 at the Third Fraternal Encounter of the Renewed Communion of Evangelicals and Catholics

Notice the dude in the long brown habit with the cord around his waist? Notice everyone is looking at him? That is Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa (yup…Catholic priest), he is the one giving the blessing. What the other non-Catholics are doing during a Catholic blessing is irrelevant.
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It was Fr. Cantalamessa’s homily for Good Friday 2011 that stopped my life for a moment, and in a brilliant way…
 
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