Went undercover to a Baptist church today

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****I often do the same thing…I take my big blue Catholic Study Bible, or another obviously Catholic Bible with me to my husband’s Church of Christ…As I have said before, they all know me, and know that I am very much a Catholic…Taking a Catholic Bible can open doors…
 
it seems empty to us, only because we understand and realise that He is really with us when we go for Communion. But they also believe He is there with them in Spirit. So it works well for everyone.
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lasalle,

While it’s true that the Spirit maybe with them, let’s not just be drawn to the idea that “it’s ok.” Anyways, I’m not trying to correct you, some may just find it “ok” with the protestant form of worship BUT it’s definitely NOTHING compared and be substituted to the sacrifice of the mass. There we experience Him, recieve Him–Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.

Pio
 
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mango_2003:
Add also…I LOVE Latin. Simply beautiful.

~mango~
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In that case, you might enjoy this.

romancatholicism.org/mass-video.html

It is a traditional (pre-Vatican II) Low Mass (spoken, not sung) and is celebrated “ad orientam”, with the Priest facing the altar together with the people instead of facing the people across the altar.

Enjoy,
Justin
 
I too, attended a protestant church once as a favor to a Methodist friend of mine who was having her daughter baptized (at the ripe old age of 4 yrs!) She asked me to be there because so little of her family were able to attend.

I, too, came away with a feeling of emptiness, like something was missing. I felt much better after a good, Catholic 5PM Mass that same afternoon!!:yup:

I like to use this little analogy when comparing protestant services to that of the one true church: Picture a little two/three year old girl playing at her Playschool toy kitchen and talking on toy telephone at the same time - just like she has seen her mother do so many times! Now, picture her parents watching her with smiles on their faces, thinking, how cute is that, she’s playing house.

I think that’s what God does when he looks down on a protestant service - He smiles because He knows they love Him, but He doesn’t take it too seriously because it’s not complete - there is so much they’ve yet to understand, just like the little girl. After their service, I picture God saying “That was great boys and girls, but now it’s time for Mass”!!
 
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In that case, you might enjoy this.

romancatholicism.org/mass-video.html

It is a traditional (pre-Vatican II) Low Mass (spoken, not sung) and is celebrated “ad orientam”, with the Priest facing the altar together with the people instead of facing the people across the altar.

Enjoy,
Justin
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Thanks for that. I’ll have to check it out when I hook up my laptop tonight (I’m home from school and using my 'rents computer right now…it’s kinda outdated).

Quick question. From what I know about Catholicism…things changed after Vatican II. My mom was talking a little about that to me…she was raised pre-Vatican II and the whole Vatican II thingy happen while she was growing up. She loves the Latin too, and said that was something that she missed about the “old days”. What all changed when this happened?

~mango~
 
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mango_2003:
Quick question. From what I know about Catholicism…things changed after Vatican II. My mom was talking a little about that to me…she was raised pre-Vatican II and the whole Vatican II thingy happen while she was growing up. She loves the Latin too, and said that was something that she missed about the “old days”. What all changed when this happened?

~mango~
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With the philosopy that a picture is worth a thousand words, I’ll let these speak for themselves:

http://www.latin-mass-society.org/images/bishoprifanmass.jpeg

http://www.sacredheartfl.org/lifeteen/photoalbum_feb25-2001/dsc00019.jpg

Justin
 
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1962Missal:
In that case, you might enjoy this.

romancatholicism.org/mass-video.html

It is a traditional (pre-Vatican II) Low Mass (spoken, not sung) and is celebrated “ad orientam”, with the Priest facing the altar together with the people instead of facing the people across the altar.

Enjoy,
Justin
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I’d be careful with the rest of the site though. The owner has a lot of good articles on the faith, but also calls the Pope a heretic… The owner is a Feeneyite, anti-Semetic, and also the one who created the Father Feeney site that Karl Keating mentioned in one of his e-letters.
 
I think the first picture would probably scare a lot of Protestants, especially the more evangelical types. The pagentry and vestments and candles would be so strange to people who are used to worshipping simply. It would have frightened me off at one time… but I honestly can’t tell you why.

I feel differently about it now of course…I think the first pic is beautiful.

dream wanderer
 
A good mixture of both of those pictures is what I like (formal, but post- Vatican II).
 
******You can still experience this kind of thing if you find a good Latin Mass…I missed out, too, and regret it. **
 
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Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in saecula saeculorum. 👍

Justin
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LOL…from all my years in choir, I definately know what that means.

My new and current favorite is:

Oro supplex et acclinis, cor contritum quasi cinis, gere curam mei finis. Lacrimosa dies illa qua resurget ex favilla judicandus homo reus. Huic ergo parce, Deus, pie Jesu Domine, Dona eis requiem.

Beautiful.

~mango~
 
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mango_2003:
LOL…from all my years in choir, I definately know what that means.

My new and current favorite is:

Oro supplex et acclinis, cor contritum quasi cinis, gere curam mei finis. Lacrimosa dies illa qua resurget ex favilla judicandus homo reus. Huic ergo parce, Deus, pie Jesu Domine, Dona eis requiem.

Beautiful.

~mango~
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I prostrate myself, supplicating,
my heart in ashes, repentant;
take good care of my last moment!

That tearful day,
when from the ashes shall rise again

sinful man to be judged.
Therefore pardon him, o God.

Merciful Lord Jesus,
give them rest.

Amen.

Beautiful, indeed.

Justin
 
Justin,

Just a question, are you a member of SSPX?

The picture you have posted is just “too biased.” Of course the pre-Vatican II mass was OK. It’s so wonderful just like what you have shown.

BUT the second one was NEVER approved by the Church, in the sense that the other people except for the priest, deacon should not be there at the altar. It’s just the priest, who might be a liberal allowed it, but NOT from the Vatican. You might as well show a picture that is not too biased because it seems to me that you are creating a confusion as to what really the Vatican II Council was for.

The mass “discipline” was changed but not the substance of it. Meaning the real meaning of it is really the sacrifice of Christ, not whether the priest faces the people or not.

Let us not create confusion, we are here to build up the Body of Christ and not to tear down the bricks.

Pio
 
Pio,

The picture says it’s from the FSSP, so one need not go to a SSPX chapel to find a Traditional Mass.
 
Of course one need not go to SSPX to see the traditional mass.

As always, the official language of the Catholic Church is Latin, but the vernacular was adopted to suit the times. It’s just common sense, is it? :ehh: No one from a non-latin speaking country can understand the mass if spoken in latin, right? I guess the Lord Jesus will not preach the gospel in a different language so people will ask what is he talking about? As the Church puts it, the vernacular is also the same Word being proclaimed, just spoken in different language. But I know some of us here wants to be archaic.😉

Pio
 
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