I believe in God, so that article really isnt for me.
But then there is really no evidence that there are anything outside of nature. For me God can easily be a part of nature.
Is an artist part of his art?But then there is really no evidence that there are anything outside of nature. For me God can easily be a part of nature.
We agree more than I thought. From what you said here:
it sounded like you had the typical modern bias that religion and science are incompatible. A review of history will show this is not true, and in fact, Christianity led people to the study the natural sciences.
If you believe there is no next life, this life has no meaning. I think your posts tend to show that.
They just get to pay for it.Original sin makes no sense at all. Thats why even jews dont buy it.
thats not me. i dont hold the opinion that christianity is incompatible to science.
I agree, that it sounds like Agnos. In a prior post you (Agnos)wrote that people needed religion up to (I assume the Renaissance, or the Age of Enlightenment, you didn’t say) because they weren’t educated. Then, upon learning they were educated, you changed it to they didn’t know much about the sciences.
My friend, you have got to talk to atheists more. They hold life as meaningful as the rest of us. Why, you think they should just drop dead?
The issue I raised is the fact that unbelief is rapidly spreading in prosperous & educated nations, and that education was a huge factor. And then you mentioned that jesus was educated, but then i pointed out how limited his education was.
only in matters of proof. otherwise some religions are better, and some are worst.
didnt I say ‘amen’? though its good to see it there, i dont think it was the bible writers who invented it.
time will tell.Agnos, you don’t know yourself very well. I think you are closer to the Truth than you will admit to yourself. I don’t think you really believe a lot of what you have posted. You may have at one time, but I have seen a change the tone of your posts. You are not as energetic about your beliefs as you once were. It’s almost like you’re quoting empty responses that you believed in a former time. You are protecting yourself with empty phrases.
Agnos, I didn’t take your response as hostile. Did you take mine as such?
OF COURSE NOT! You Christine are one of the sweetest online chatmate I ever had.Agnos, I didn’t take your response as hostile. Did you take mine as such?
The rest of the people here are very nice too.Which does nothing to disprove the prevalence of religion in Jesus’ day. I don’t believe it was a "limited " as you make it out to be. I contend it is materialism, not education in 1st world countries that is the root of the demise of relgiosity.
I disagree that proofs are equal in all sects of Chrisitianity.
So I give you several quote from the Bible, but you say the Bible didn’t invent it. Who was the Bible quoting? The Scythian Barbarians?
Indeed.time will tell.
materialism sure has its role to play in diminishing religion. people who have everything they need find very little reason to pray. and when people dont pray, they get desensitized to religion. and when desensitized they get more open minded. and when open minded then thats where education comes in.
i wasnt really referring to the sects of christianity. but within, if you assume that the bible stories were true, then some are indeed more provable than the others.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity#Confucianism
can you give practical examples as to how the positive form is better than the negative form?
I agree SOME people tend not to pray if they have it all. But I disagree that religious people have closed minds, and therefore unable to be educated, which I what I see you implying. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Do you think the Barbarian Hords, Huns, 6th century Turks, the Vikings, even modern terrorist Muslims (as opposed to peaceful) would agree with you? What I mean is they won’t practice it, and you say that God told you it didn’t matter what you believed as long as you lived the Golden Rule. Why should we believe in the Golden Rule because you said so. It has to be bigger than that.
that wasnt my intention. no, religious people are not necessarily closed minded. its just that less religious people are more openminded. just look at the muslims, who are more reasonable, the moderate muslims or the fundamentalists & extremists?
there are simply no evidences which suggests that confucius got that idea from the hebrews. the earliest recordings of jews in china was during the han dynasty, somewhere around 200 B.C.
the golden rule is for individuals, not for entire nations. just look at how the hebrew nation treated the amalekite nation. its nowhere near what you quoted me. right?
islam have rules that overrides its peaceful messages.
Hey I was just parroting what greater people have said. And look at this…
God wrote it on our hearts, which is why our hearts will not rest until they rest in Him. (I believe St. Augustine wrote this)
Agnos, I was thinking about you this morning at mass. I was reviewing the posts on this thread over the last two weeks. I realized that they centered around you. You make some good arguments, as in Aristotlian genre. Others, such as Contarini, engaged in them with you. It suddenly came to me that the major theme of the posts on this thread over the past few weeks was care for you. Yes, good argumentation and research were presented, but not only for the argumentation in itself or to be “right” and you are “wrong.” But it was to bring you to the joy of Truth.