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To suggest that it’s all going to be solved by evangelisation is not a practical solution at this point. A worthy endeavour no doubt. But far from a solution to the hard core problems we see.
I don’t want you to view this as me bashing the Catholic religion, but if you think that evangelisation would work then we need to note that almost 50% of Catholics have no problem with abortion. That 22% of women in the US call themselves Catholic but 24% of all abortions are carried out on Catholics (Catholics are just as likely to get an abortion as other U.S. women. Why? | America Magazine). A third of Catholics have been divorced. A vast majority of Catholic women have used or are using contraceptives.
Now if the church’s teachings don’t work on a significant proportion of Catholics themselves then I wouldn’t hold out much hope for it to have any success whatsoever in urban ghettoes.
But I get the feeling that this is your only solution. I appreciate that you now see that there are problems to be fixed. And maybe you can see why so many people are protesting the conditions under which so many Americans live. It isn’t just a protest about police brutality. That was the catalyst. And it’s not some left wing Marxist plot. Apart from a tiny percentage of people who are using this situation for self serving reasons, almost everyone, in countries across the world, have taken the killing of one man as a symbol that change is needed.
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If that were true then how was it that Black communities had less crime and even in some cases better education than when they weren’t funded very well at all in the 30s and 40s and racism was embedded in law? Back then 25% of Children were born out of wedlock, today it’s over 70%. Thomas Sowell describes this, ill put a link in below. it’s worth a look
Absolutely there are many people who subscribe to being Catholic but who reject it’s teachings with the likes of Abortion and divorce etc. The lesson to learn there is that evangelization doesn’t stop, we must be converted everyday and OBEY Christ and his teachings and not fall away, those that reject Church teaching have fallen away, we hope they will come back and many do, i mean i did and i came home
. The problem with Church teaching in todays society is that it can be hard to live up in a society FULL of temptation but it is required for our own salvation in this world and the next.
**How effective Church teaching today is among the number of Catholics practicing it does not prove or disprove it’s validity, we use reason for that. It’s not a numbers game, many Catholics including all of society may reject Christ, that doesn’t make this truth less valid. The reality is if Catholics didn’t fall away from their faith and if society adopted it then the conditions would be set for society to progress economically and socially aswell. We can see that throughout history, thats the beauty of it
You know Catholicism started in the ghettos, it’s rebirth may just begin there once more
To suggest that it’s all going to be solved by evangelisation is not a practical solution at this point. A worthy endeavour no doubt. But far from a solution to the hard core problems we see.
I don’t want you to view this as me bashing the Catholic religion, but if you think that evangelisation would work then we need to note that almost 50% of Catholics have no problem with abortion. That 22% of women in the US call themselves Catholic but 24% of all abortions are carried out on Catholics (Catholics are just as likely to get an abortion as other U.S. women. Why? | America Magazine). A third of Catholics have been divorced. A vast majority of Catholic women have used or are using contraceptives.
Now if the church’s teachings don’t work on a significant proportion of Catholics themselves then I wouldn’t hold out much hope for it to have any success whatsoever in urban ghettoes.
But I get the feeling that this is your only solution. I appreciate that you now see that there are problems to be fixed. And maybe you can see why so many people are protesting the conditions under which so many Americans live. It isn’t just a protest about police brutality. That was the catalyst. And it’s not some left wing Marxist plot. Apart from a tiny percentage of people who are using this situation for self serving reasons, almost everyone, in countries across the world, have taken the killing of one man as a symbol that change is needed.
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If that were true then how was it that Black communities had less crime and even in some cases better education than when they weren’t funded very well at all in the 30s and 40s and racism was embedded in law? Back then 25% of Children were born out of wedlock, today it’s over 70%. Thomas Sowell describes this, ill put a link in below. it’s worth a look
Absolutely there are many people who subscribe to being Catholic but who reject it’s teachings with the likes of Abortion and divorce etc. The lesson to learn there is that evangelization doesn’t stop, we must be converted everyday and OBEY Christ and his teachings and not fall away, those that reject Church teaching have fallen away, we hope they will come back and many do, i mean i did and i came home
. The problem with Church teaching in todays society is that it can be hard to live up in a society FULL of temptation but it is required for our own salvation in this world and the next.**How effective Church teaching today is among the number of Catholics practicing it does not prove or disprove it’s validity, we use reason for that. It’s not a numbers game, many Catholics including all of society may reject Christ, that doesn’t make this truth less valid. The reality is if Catholics didn’t fall away from their faith and if society adopted it then the conditions would be set for society to progress economically and socially aswell. We can see that throughout history, thats the beauty of it
You know Catholicism started in the ghettos, it’s rebirth may just begin there once more
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