What do witches/sorcerers deserve now?

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witches/sorcerers include fortune tellers, ghost eliminators etc
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GHOST ELIMINATORS…!!! Now wait a darn minute… :mad:

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If the people in question are performing fraud, such as taking hundreds or thousands of dollars from others, then jail. If someone willingly goes to a physic/fortune teller and hands them $20 for their reading, it’s the persons own fault, the fortune teller did nothing wrong.

People who hunt ghosts are harmless, leave them alone. If they charge you a thousand dollars to cleanse your home of evil spirits, that’s fraud…jail.
 
Heathen Dawn:
They deserve protection from Christians.
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Peace be with you Heathen Dawn,

I’d offer you protection friend. I’ll just get you a St. Francis costume and they’ll never know that difference. 🙂

Peace, Love and Blessings,
 
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NOW!! NOW!! Thats not being very wiccan ,is it? :eek:
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Is it anything less than factual that Christians think witches have no right to exist? And is it not prudent, based on history, to assume that if Christians had political power, they would put that thought into practice?
 
Heathen Dawn:
Is it anything less than factual that Christians think witches have no right to exist? And is it not prudent, based on history, to assume that if Christians had political power, they would put that thought into practice?
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Well Heathen Dawn, Christians, as loosely applied as the term seems to be in your message, do have political power and have in this country for centuries. And we haven’t seen any burning of witches at the stake since Salem (or perhaps shortly thereafter, I don’t claim to have any specific interest in following the topic, so forgive my errors).

I think you might be misunderstanding our concern that what you are doing is endangering yourself, and because we are all interconnected through the Body of Christ extended to all mankind, we also are harmed by your sin. The existance of ongoing sin in the world allows evil access. I’m sorry that you believe that simply wanting to “do no harm” makes it so. I accept that you don’t get it.

I pray for your soul, but God will not force you to accept His Grace. Until you are willing to humbly accept the Infinite Love He has for you, He will be waiting for you, patiently, lovingly ready for the moment you chose to embrace Him.

So, if God loves you infinitely, how can any Christian who understands the fullness of what God has called us to do, think that any human being “has no right to exist”. You were created in the likeness and image of God. He has a divine purpose for your life. He can make incredible good from even the worst of situations, so think what he can do with the simple errors we’ve made in our lives.

I know I need to offer up my foolishness to God on a regular basis, and when I remember to do so with a Humble and Contrite heart, even my faults are gladly accepted.

I’m sorry that you feel persecuted by what we say regarding the lifestyle you have chosen. We don’t hate you but we desire that you learn to become the most beautiful gift that God has allowed for you.

If you can embrace your suffering, as Christ accepted the suffering of His Crucifixion, you can help in changing the world, as each of us join in His name.

You are in my prayers,

God Bless you and keep you forever in His Heart,

CARose
 
Heathen Dawn:
Is it anything less than factual that Christians think witches have no right to exist? And is it not prudent, based on history, to assume that if Christians had political power, they would put that thought into practice?
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Everyone has a right to exist because God[Jesus] ceated us all. We are ALL His children. For God is GOOD. Now if we only recognized this fact,we would not be playing with the devil. :eek:
 
I would normally respond, but I have no energy left in me. Suffice it to say I do not believe in dialogue, friendship or communion between Christians and Wiccans. Goodbye.
 
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CARose:
I think you might be misunderstanding our concern that what you are doing is endangering yourself, and because we are all interconnected through the Body of Christ extended to all mankind, we also are harmed by your sin.
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How is Heathen, or I for that matter doing harm by practicing different beliefs than your own (I’m not even sure as to whether he practices witchcraft, as not all Wiccans do). Contrary to your thoughts, my beliefs, nor his, have anything to do with Satan, nor does the practice of witchcraft (with the exception, I suppose, of any Satanists that may practice a form of witchcraft. However, this is only a small portion of people and it is a fallacy to assume that just because a part of a group practices one way, that the entire group does the same).
I pray for your soul, but God will not force you to accept His Grace.
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But if I do not accept the Christian God I will go to hell - sounds like force to me.
 
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BlessedBe13:
But if I do not accept the Christian God I will go to hell - sounds like force to me.
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not force - call it an option and your choice.
 
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Everyone has a right to exist because God[Jesus] ceated us all.
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Alright, then it is agreed that I have a right to exist practicing whatever beliefs I choose and there is nothing wrong with it.
 
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jrabs:
not force - call it an option and your choice.
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No, it is indirect force. “Sure, you don’t have to follow me, but if you don’t you will go to a place of eternal torment”. All (or at least most) people wouldn’t want to go to a place of eternal torment, so they are being forced to hold certain beliefs if they don’t want to go there. Once again, contradictory to the all-loving creator claim.
 
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I would like a law that makes taking money or property for supernatural “helps” illegal. The penalty would be prison time.
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Would that law cover the stipend paid to the priest to say a mass for a departed loved one?

Be careful what you outlaw…it may come back to bite you.
Paul
 
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BlessedBe13:
No, it is indirect force. “Sure, you don’t have to follow me, but if you don’t you will go to a place of eternal torment”. All (or at least most) people wouldn’t want to go to a place of eternal torment, so they are being forced to hold certain beliefs if they don’t want to go there. Once again, contradictory to the all-loving creator claim.
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Now you’re soundin like a spoiled kid. If I can’t have my way, it’s just not fair! Well, it’s just down right extortion - that’s all it is.

PLease. You call it indirect force, I’ll call it choice. No one is forcing you since you make all the choices in your own life. You are in charge of everything you do - or I should say every choice you make.

Great thing about the choice factor? You can make the wrong , harmful choices and then repent and God will lovingly show you mercy. That makes choice a wonderful gift!
 
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BlessedBe13:
Alright, then it is agreed that I have a right to exist practicing whatever beliefs I choose and there is nothing wrong with it.
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Close but not quite… Dont be decieved into thinking there is nothing wrong with it. :eek:
 
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jrabs:
Now you’re soundin like a spoiled kid. If I can’t have my way, it’s just not fair!
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Actually, that’s sounding more like the way the Christian God is portrayed: "If people won’t belief in me this way, fine! They can all go to hell (literally). I was simply explaining why it is force and also why it makes the description of the Christian god quite contradictory.
Well, it’s just down right extortion - that’s all it is.
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Extortion: : the act or practice of extorting especially money or other property Who am I extorting money or property from?
Great thing about the choice factor? You can make the wrong , harmful choices and then repent and God will lovingly show you mercy.
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Well I have made the right choice for my religious beliefs, it is not harmful to me, therefore I have no reason to repent (at least in that area of my life).
 
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Close but not quite… Dont be decieved into thinking there is nothing wrong with it. :eek:
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But I’m not being deceived. I know there is nothing wrong with it. The same as you may know that there is nothing wrong with your beliefs.
 
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BlessedBe13:
Alright, then it is agreed that I have a right to exist practicing whatever beliefs I choose and there is nothing wrong with it.
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Yes you do have a right to practice your beliefs.

No, I cannot give you that there is nothing wrong with what you are doing. I believe that all that is written in the bible is Truth, just as the mathmatical equation 2 + 2 = 4, I would not be able to agree with you that it is now equal to 5. You are welcome to equate 2 + 2 as 5, but please do not do so when building a bridge I will need to cross.

It is wrong because in doing so, you bring evil into the world. You don’t need to mean to do so, but you are.

If you were running towards a cliff and I didn’t tell you to look out, would the cliff cease to exist, simply because I didn’t tell you and you didn’t see it. Would it be extortion or coersion or some other kind of force on my part to warn you of what lays ahead? No, the Truth exists, regardless of our desire to ignore it.

If you are at all curious to see if what we are saying is true, try opening yourself to the working of the Holy Spirit. Pray for the faith to know and love God. Try it, seriously, honestly.

You might be surprised by the results. If there is no One God, all loving, etc, you lose nothing. If there is, you gain immortal life.

God Bless,

CARose
 
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