What do you think of the Pope's response to the current scandal?

[Horton]

Obviously the US Bishops believed that the laity, in this instance has some right to know what is being done, because they released their request for an investigation to the public.

The why haven’t the US bishops been more on the ball with taking care of this when it seems it was so well known in the upper circles? Were they just sitting on their hands while those among their ranks were engaged in this sick behavior? It’s easy to demand an investigation now, after the fact. Where were they then? I get they may not have had the ability to sanction other bishops, but they could have stepped up for the victims and the Church and said something. So their demand for an investigation, imho, is really nothing more than CYA.

How do you know nothing is happening? Why do you feel you need to know the result instantly? Do you not have faith the Church will do the right thing? Do you not trust the Pope? Or is your faith placed in the secular media and enemies of the Church who would love to use this scandal to attempt to bring her down?

Now more than ever faithful, loyal Catholics need to stand by the Church and be silent and patient.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

Americans are used to a scandal hitting the papers and then some politician is making a statement and launching an investigation within 48 hours.

The Pope is not a politician. And he’s not an American. And we don’t get to vote him in or remove him from office.

 

[tafan2]

Now more than ever faithful, loyal Catholics need to stand by the Church and be silent and patient.

Well, we will agree one the first point:standing by the Church. We will disagree on the second: silence has not worked. Patience: within reason.

 

[13pollitos]

What is your post based on? Where did you hear that information? I would like to read about that

 

[Ardent_Fire]

Prayers and silence weren’t Francis’ first move. When he first heard that Vigano was talkin about him, he told Viganò to meet him in St Peter’s Square after Mass. Everyone started talking about it. A bunch of people showed up in St Peter’s Square. But the Swiss Guard found out about it, and made everyone go home. So now Viganò keeps calling Pope Francis and hanging up, and sayin stuff on Facebook. Francis can’t do anything about it or he’ll get in trouble, and the Swiss Guard won’t do anything either.

That sounds like a diffused fight scene from Anchorman 3: Vatican City

 

[1Lord1Faith]

That sounds like a diffused fight scene from Anchorman 3: Vatican City

Yes but the rules are different.

1. No grabbing each other’s Zucchetto
2. No insulting each other’s mother

 

[TheOldColonel]

What ever happened to collegiality?

Indeed. Collegiality of Bishops is precisely the problem. Bishops in any Episcopal Conference do not have the power to impose canonical penalties upon fellow Bishops. Only the Roman Rota, acting on behalf of the Holy Pontiff, has such power. So, the USCCB and millions of the faithful are waiting to HEAR something is being done. Yet, the crickets have the stage for now.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

That sounds like a diffused fight scene from Anchorman 3: Vatican City

Pope Fiction

 

[philipl]

Then pray these men are held accountable in a court of law. That is what I am doing. I have also stopped all donations to to my church and any catholic charities. At some point and time the church leaders will be forced to uncover their cover up. I am sad to believe it will take another 40 years. But at some time the truth will come out.

 

[Katie777]

Then pray these men are held accountable in a court of law. That is what I am doing. I have also stopped all donations to to my church and any catholic charities. At some point and time the church leaders will be forced to uncover their cover up. I am sad to believe it will take another 40 years. But at some time the truth will come out.

I pray that God will place in my heart actions that further help in healing of the victims and His Holy church in this time of darkness and bring His divine light to those who are suffering in any way as a result.

 

[kyrie03]

Silence and prayers are the appropriate response for Pope Francis and all of those implicated in the McCarrick scandal.

But they shouldn’t be silent about attacking the Vigano’s character or motivations. The 21 (and counting) bishops who see Vigano to be trustworthy and are asking for an investigation are deceived. There is no homosexual network….that’s the devil’s suggestion aimed at getting Catholics to fight against each other.

Sarcasm aside, silence and prayer if combined with action would be appropriate.

*Release the 300-page dossier on moral and financial corruption compiled at the request of Pope Benedict by 3 Cardinals and last seen on the desk for the newly-elected Pope Francis.

*Release the files that Archbishop Vigano claimed have corroborating evidence for his testimony. He says they can be found at the Vatican and the offices of the apostolic nuncio.

*Be transparent. After all, the truth will set you free from the REAL attacks of the devil

 

[philipl]

So no one is above the law. Not even church leaders. Once the church leader expose these evil men. And for what they did they are evil. Then and only them will the church start to heal

 

[Katie777]

So no one is above the law. Not even church leaders. Once the church leader expose these evil men. And for what they did they are evil. Then and only them will the church start to heal

Of course they need to be held accountable. Who said otherwise?

See, this is an example of how words can get twisted, when one does not remain silent.

 

[kyrie03]

If you wish to not just discuss but actually request that Pope Francis respond to the current scandal, Scott Hahn started a petition from men. There is another petition from women started on August 30 -embedded in the following petition:

Dear Holy Father and Bishops of the United States:

As Catholic laymen, we are faithful husbands, fathers, business leaders, lawyers, tradesmen, medical doctors, professors, teachers, artists, and leaders of Catholic lay apostolates. But most fundamentally, we are men in love with Christ and His Church, and it is for this reason that we beseech you to purge the corruption which has so grotesquely disfigured the face of Christ’s Bride. The present scandals have placed our wives, sisters, brothers, and children in danger. Therefore, echoing the words St. Catherine of Siena addressed to Pope Gregory XI, we beseech you to “sleep no longer, and raise the standard [of Christ] courageously.” The Church needs purification, and by virtue of your offices as our shepherds, no one is more qualified to bring about this purification than yourselves. We beg you to do so without a moment’s delay.

Taking courage from St. Paul, and knowing that “Where sin increased, grace abounded all the more” (Rm 5:20), we are appalled by the recent abuses. We have read of the allegations against Archbishop Theodore McCarrick; the grand jury report regarding the Church in Pennsylvania; the horrific abuse in Honduras and Chile; and the rampant reports of clerical homosexual activity, pedophilia, and ephebophilia throughout the global presbytery. Most recently, we have read Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò’s testimony alleging that bishops in senior leadership positions within both the Holy See and the United States have covered up sexual abuse, evidencing widespread and systemic corruption throughout the Church’s hierarchy.

Holy Father, we come to you for answers. You personally have been faced with allegations. These allegations have been leveled by a high-ranking church official, Archbishop Viganò. Further, many bishops in the United States have publicly stated that they believe these allegations should be investigated. We implore you to address them. Specifically, we request that you answer the questions posed by our sisters in their letter to you, issued on August 30, 2018.

2019 Commitment Letter - Catholic Men United

 

[philipl]

I pray that God will place in my heart actions that further help in healing of the victims and His Holy church in this time of darkness and bring His divine light to those who are suffering in any way as a result.

I pray that God will place in my heart actions that further help in healing of the victims and His Holy church in this time of darkness and bring His divine light to those who are suffering in any way as a result.

Then why are you not also praying these men will be held accountable?

 

[tafan2]

While I understand your sentiment, I cannot agree with your action of stopping all donations to the church. The Church is still the one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church, it will never be perfectly governed. We have no where else to go. Ignoring the precepts of the church is not the answer. Two wrongs do not make a right. If the precepts of the church have been just law in the past, they are just law now. We are morally bound to follow them. The Church is not democratic, we cannot “vote” with our money.

 

[philipl]

There are no laws that forces me to give to the church.

 

[tafan2]

One of the precepts of the church is that we are each to provide for the material needs of the Church based on our ability.
Precepts are the more basic laws of the church, not abiding by them is grave matter.

 

[Babaganoush]

I am disappointed and think the pope needs to respond. But I think there will be no response, and no one will ever check the nunciature in Washington or the secretariat in Rome to see if the documents line up with what Abp. Viganò says. All we are going to get is silence. It just makes me distrust the pope. It doesn’t inspire confidence.

 

[tafan2]

Your reaction is why it is so important for the Pope to instigate a complete investigation. Lack of trust in The Church is not a good thing.