What Do You Think Of Wicca?

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Wammy, sorry, but I think you’re missing the point I’m making. Satan sugar-coats lies to make them appealing/seductive. The picture you painted above is just that. He’s like an abductor who entices children with colourful sweets and toys! You’ll only see his true colours until after it’s too late…

Am I making any sense to you? Could I be right? Can you really dismiss what I’m saying as nonsense? Remember that Satan (originally Lucifer) was the greatest angel in Heaven. He’s also very clever and a master of deception.
I worry about this sort of pronouncement. I mean, we don’t know (and frankly, don’t want to know) about satan, what he thinks or does. We just clothe ourselves in love and try and live as good people.
I don’t think it’s helpful to make out you know Satan’s motives or modus operandi. We are all on our own journey, God has a way of calling to all our hearts through all forms of worship of him (it’s in the Catechism).
 
I worry about this sort of pronouncement. I mean, we don’t know (and frankly, don’t want to know) about satan, what he thinks or does. We just clothe ourselves in love and try and live as good people.
I don’t think it’s helpful to make out you know Satan’s motives or modus operandi. We are all on our own journey, God has a way of calling to all our hearts through all forms of worship of him (it’s in the Catechism).
FightingFat, know thine enemy! Haven’t you heard, he’s the father of lies?

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

1 Peter 5:8 Be sober and watch: because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour.

God bless,
Noel.
 
FightingFat, know thine enemy! Haven’t you heard, he’s the father of lies?

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

1 Peter 5:8 Be sober and watch: because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour.

God bless,
Noel.
Whilst I agree it is indeed helpful to know thine enemy, it looks to me as though you peeked into his dairy or weekly planer or something! While I agree that Satan is by far the most evil scum ever to glimpse the earth, I asure you he has nothing to do with me!!!
 
I think it is a poor and trendy and self-indulgent answer for the very real need for the transcendent which exists in each of us.

I am also reminded of the words of Chesterton: “Paganism was the largest thing in the world, and Christianity was larger still, and everything since has been comparatively small.” And that "small’ includes wicca.

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It’s rather silly, if you don’t mind me saying. It’s a religion for teenage girls that want to annoy their parents.
And perhaps, if we are truly honest, for young men who want to get in good with those girls. I know in my younger, agnostic days I would have considered the matter along those lines.
 
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OK. Y’all wanna know why i becam a Wiccan? Cos the prospect of Wicca (not Wiccanism) Just worked more for me.

If you have any more questions, don’ hesitate to ask.
OK then. How does wicca answer the most basic questions of life, such as “why am I here?”, “how am I to live?”, “what is my destiny?”
 
Uhhhhhh, thanks. I guess. How is it dangerous. please don’t give me the cookie cutter responce ‘Because you are messing with the occult, the devil, you’re not with christ, etc.’ Infact most Wiccans draw their power from christ or God. My soul is NOT corrupted!!! I take offense to that!!
Whammy, I hope that you will not “take offense” when others are simply answering a question which you asked. The fact is, none of us knows you personally, and none of us wishes to insult you. However, when you post a question, such as the one you posted here, on a Catholic board, you shouldn’t expect that the members of that board will say things like, “Wicca is great,” or “Wicca is the way.” You honestly asked the question, and I believe that many of us honestly answered that question. Perhaps your curiosity is satisfied; in which case this thread has played itself out. Is there something else you’d like to ask?

Forgive my shortness, but one of your stipulations was that there not be any argumentative or offensive comments. When I read that, I get the impression that you only want to hear from those that agree with you. Arguments, when kept civil, can be a good thing. It can be informative. It can correct misunderstandings. It can shed light on the truth of the situation. Therefore, when you tell someone that you want to hear their opinion but only under these conditions, you are actually, limiting the possibility of seeing the truth. Unless, of course, you believe that you have 100% of the truth already; but if that were true, why would you be asking us for our opinions?
 
Whilst I agree it is indeed helpful to know thine enemy, it looks to me as though you peeked into his dairy or weekly planer or something! While I agree that Satan is by far the most evil scum ever to glimpse the earth, I asure you he has nothing to do with me!!!
Exactly! And if I had a pound for every time some Baptist Fundamentalist nut job had told me I was going to Hell, or that Catholicism was the devil’s work, I’d be a richer man today I can tell you! Not the way to win this argument IMO!
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Whilst I agree it is indeed helpful to know thine enemy, it looks to me as though you peeked into his dairy or weekly planer or something! While I agree that Satan is by far the most evil scum ever to glimpse the earth, I asure you he has nothing to do with me!!!
Hi Wammy101,

From your posts I gather that you are Wiccan? I don’t overly much concerning Wiccanism but I am a bit of a self-styled pagan.

Help me out here… What is Wiccanism? How to the other pagan gods fit into it?

Thanks!
 
Christ is the way, in answer to your question, most rituals are different, and there isn’t really one you do just for the sake of doing, like it has to be for healing, or Samhain or something. instead of regularly doing spells, we save the spells and light and insence to meditate.
Cya,
Wammy
Well, Mass isn’t done for the sake of doing, it is done to worship God and receive His Body and Blood. I seem to recall hearing about Wiccans who practice a monthly ritual, something that involved the Moon? Well, Wiccans tend to be very different in regards to specific rituals, correct? I imagine it varies with the different kinds of Wicca. Do you have any marriages rituals and rituals for infants, like a baptism?
 
Help me out here… What is Wiccanism? How to the other pagan gods fit into it?
May I offer- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca

Wicca is a Neopagan religion and a religious movement found in many different countries. It was first publicised in 1954 by a British civil servant named Gerald Gardner[1] after the British Witchcraft Act was repealed. He claimed that the religion, of which he was an initiate, was a modern survival of an old witch cult, which had existed in secret for hundreds of years, originating in the pre-Christian Paganism of Europe. Wicca is thus sometimes referred to as the Old Religion. The veracity of Gardner’s claims cannot be independently proven, and it is thought that Wiccan theology began to be compiled no earlier than the 1920s. Various related Wiccan traditions have since evolved, or been adapted from, the form established by Gardner, which came to be called Gardnerian Wicca. These other traditions of Wicca each have specific beliefs, rituals, and practices. Many traditions of Wicca remain secretive and require that members be initiated. There is also a movement of Eclectic or Solitary Wiccans who do not believe any doctrine or traditional initiation is necessary in order to practice Wicca.
 
I worry about this sort of pronouncement. I mean, we don’t know (and frankly, don’t want to know) about satan, what he thinks or does. We just clothe ourselves in love and try and live as good people.
I don’t think it’s helpful to make out you know Satan’s motives or modus operandi. We are all on our own journey, God has a way of calling to all our hearts through all forms of worship of him (it’s in the Catechism).
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For example, Wiccans generally believe in re-incarnation.
Did real medieval European witches believe in reincarnation? Doubtful. It’s the hippies and hobbits connection again.

It’s part flowerchild flirtation with Buddhism. In fact, there
is also a simple adaptation of karma (Rule of Three, Law of Three-Fold Return, etc.).

It’s also part fantasy fiction fandom. After all, Tolkien’s Elves were subject to a form of reincarnation. Gotta love them magic-using nature-lovin’ Elves…if you aspire to be a magic-using nature-lovin’ type of person.

The great thing about this unnatural juxtaposition of East and West is that most Westerners have great difficulty swallowing the karma and reincarnation stuff. The more you think about them, the less they make any sense. It’s a great built-in reason to leave Wicca after awhile.

So to my way of thinking, Wicca is not such a bad deal. It turns ex-Protestants onto a mystical way of thinking, then spits them out looking for something with greater depth. It’s a little harder to turn up your nose at the idea of priesthood when you’ve been pretending to be one yourself. It’s hard to sniff at the idea of the communion of saints when you spent last Halloween trying to communicate with the dead. And it’s really hard to dismiss sacramentals when you’ve been toying with magic items and charms - or to discount miracles when you’ve been attempting to work them yourself.

**“I am very glad that our fashionable fiction seems to be full of a return to paganism, for it may possibly be the first step of a return to Christianity. Neo-pagans have sometimes forgotten, when they set out to do everything the old pagans did, that the final thing the old pagans did was to get christened.” G.K. Chesterton, 3/20/1926 **
 
Hey Wammy,

Sorry I flipped out when you mentioned Christ and Catholics in association with Wicca since I never knew that and you can imagine it was a heck of a tough pill for me to swallow.
Please understand, I mean you no harm, I just could not digest that one.
I hope you understand?

Anyway, I have another question. Do you ever use our Scriptures for any of this activity? Like repeating or using words of our Scriptures?

I wont flip out this time, I promise. No matter what you respond with. 🙂
 
80% of my friends and family are some variety Wiccan, Pagan, Druids, Shamans.

My husband has a distinct druidic bent.

My mother, aunt and best friend are Solitary witches

My grandmother was both a believer in the Catholic Church and automatic writing.

I basically grew up Pagan, was a member of a small coven in Maine, and was very active in the Maine community for a number of years.

My husband and I were married by the priest and priestess of a local Maine coven.

What do I think of Paganism (incl. Wicca)? I think it’s the biggest crock ever. I think it’s a great cover for anyone who’s the least bit promiscuous and that those people who are involved are really searching for a “religion” that let’s them live in such a way that NOTHING is wrong, that they are free to do whatever they want (so long as they don’t hurt anyone) and that sin and evil is relative.

However, all that said, I have met some of the most amazing people in the Pagan community. People who are truly good, ethical and caring. I’ve met some Pagans that would give the best Christian a run for their money in terms of living a good, moral life.

So, is Wicca a bunch of hooey? To quote a favourite witchy friend - YOU BETCHA! But I would never NOT be someone’s friend because they were a little on the fluffy side.

And besides - clothing, jewelry, artwork and music of the “witchy folk” are awesome 🙂

~Jess, self-proclaimed Renn Faire Nerd, SCA-dian, friend of the fluffy bunny-types
 
What is a good general book on Wiccanism?
Hi mjolinor. I am glad to meet you. Well Wiccan , some might say, is an off branch of Paganism. A good book, though I am not sure it is out in America, but it is Australia, is ‘Spell Weaving’. It guided me through my tender early days, and has LOADS of spells and tips. the one section I dont like is the job and money spells section. it in almost ever book, and it annoys me because I don’t generally like spells for personal gain, and that section has personal gain stamped across its forehead. the other section are very informative though. if you have any questions, PM me. If I may ask, are you (not that it will make a difference) male or female.
Cya,
Wammy
 
Hey Wammy,

Sorry I flipped out when you mentioned Christ and Catholics in association with Wicca since I never knew that and you can imagine it was a heck of a tough pill for me to swallow.
Please understand, I mean you no harm, I just could not digest that one.
I hope you understand?

Anyway, I have another question. Do you ever use our Scriptures for any of this activity? Like repeating or using words of our Scriptures?

I wont flip out this time, I promise. No matter what you respond with. 🙂
Thats fine Damascus. We all have our days. Well, I am not entirely sure, but I am pretty sure that they might. I myself am not the religious type, but I am still pretty sure that they do.
Now, with halloween fast approaching, whats on my shopping list. Ah yes, black candles, salt, apples. My Bestest friend is joining me for Samhain, so I have to stock up.
Cya, your busy, but-not-to-busy-for-you friend
Wammy.
 
Wicca is an inaccurately named religion, largely created by Gerald Brousseau Gardner in the 1950s. He was in to nudism and seances for a while before joining a group called Rosicrucians who claimed to be a coven.

The word “Wicca” which Gardner created is not related to the Anglo-Saxon word wis for “wise”. So, even the name is an error. Wicca actually means “male wizard”, wicce is the female equivalent.

Gardner got his secret lore from “Old Dorothy” who was conveniently dead when his book came out.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca

So, what do I think of Wicca? Well, not much.
 
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