What Does Illegal Immigration Cost Me?

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Again void of truth as is the other article. If you look you will see the references are to “other people who said it” never a factual data base to prove any of the allegations. Others may believe what ever they want. Believing is believing, believing is not facts, facts are facts. The writers of these articles have not facts. They can not have facts because they are void of truth.
Tex…assuming you know how to c/p to your browser…the sources for the assertions made in my post are listed. But, that would take some effort on your behalf and I have noticed that you are most content with just whining about***…“no facts…no proof,” yada,yada.":***D

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I have been working for the Department of Social Services here in California for sixteen years now, and I can tell you that item #1 on the list of alleged injuries done to the USA by illegal aliens, stating that we spend 11 to 22 billion dollars in welfare on them each year, is nothing but a bold-faced lie. Illegal aliens have NEVER been eligible for welfare, and in fact President Clinton’s welfare reform bill of 1996 made it extremely difficult even for legal alien residents to get benefits. Texas Roofer and pnewton are correct: the article is poorly written, shoddily researched and good for nothing except to rile people up in a shameless display of demagoguery. What a waste of time.
Well…IF in fact what you say is true about your job…you might also know that illegal aliens who have US born babies DO receive benefits. Since you seem to be so knowledgeable…why don’t YOU provide refuting proof?:rolleyes:

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Well…IF in fact what you say is true about your job…you might also know that illegal aliens who have US born babies DO receive benefits. Since you seem to be so knowledgeable…why don’t YOU provide refuting proof?:rolleyes:

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The kindest term I can find for the above statement in re: illegal aliens receiving benefits is ‘wildly inaccurate’. No, illegal aliens who have US born babies do NOT receive benefits. People born in the USA are automatically considered to be American citizens, and may or may not be eligible for welfare benefits based on their family composition and the income and property of the family. For example, let’s say an illegal alien mother has a baby within U.S. borders and applies for public aid for the child. If the child is eligible(as it may well not be, as both the cash aid and food stamp programs have income limits and a certain amount of the mother’s income will count against the baby), aid will be paid for the child and the child only; mother gets nothing. Clearer now?

Incidentally, I’m rather displeased with the implication that my earlier post was either untrue or inaccurate. You would do well to afford others here the same respect you would like them to show you; otherwise this conversation will deteriorate into vitriol and rancor.
 
city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

Not only are illegals criminals when they cross into this country illegally…they bring crime with them, in many instances. I have noticed in my area of the midwest, far from the southern border that there are many crimes being committed by illegals. While, I am sure…many are law abiding citizens…it appears that many…are not.😦

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The kindest term I can find for the above statement in re: illegal aliens receiving benefits is ‘wildly innacurate’. No, illegal aliens who have US born babies do NOT receive benefits. People born in the USA are automatically considered to be American citizens, and may or may not be eligible for welfare benefits based on their family composition and the income and property of the family. For example, let’s say an illegal alien mother has a baby within U.S. borders and applies for public aid for the child. If the child is eligible(as it may well not be, as both the cash aid and food stamp programs have income limits and a certain amount of the mother’s income will count against the baby), aid will be paid for the child and the child only; mother gets nothing. Clearer now?

Incidentally, I’m rather displeased with the implication that my earlier post was either untrue or innacurate. You would do well to afford others here the same respect you would like them to show you; otherwise this conversation will deteriorate into vitriol and rancor.
Yes, it is true that IF the family applies and were within the criteria…they will receive benefits. I guess I should have made that clearer…and yes, the benefits go to the “child”…but then I guess that is of benefit to the family as a whole, no?

I am not even sure what you are speaking about in your last sentence. BTW…many times my posts on this subject have been said to be untrue or innaccurate…mainly because there are those who do not like my views. My faith has even been questioned because I do not agree with illegal immigration and yet…you whine?
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From my link in post #25…

New York conveniently forgot the 1996 federal ban on sanctuary laws until a gang of five Mexicans—four of them illegal—abducted and brutally raped a 42-year-old mother of two near some railroad tracks in Queens. The NYPD had already arrested three of the illegal aliens numerous times for such crimes as assault, attempted robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession, and drug offenses. The department had never notified the INS.

This is just ONE reason why illegal immigration has to get under control and stopped. As it stands now…we have people coming into this country that we do not know WHO they are or where they are going. but, we often find out what they are doing once they get to where they are going.

ANY city in this country who has a sanctuary law should receive the fullest form of punishment from the federal government. ALL federal funds should stop immediately.

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Yes, it is true that IF the family applies and were within the criteria…they will receive benefits. I guess I should have made that clearer…and yes, the benefits go to the “child”…but then I guess that is of benefit to the family as a whole, no?

I am not even sure what you are speaking about in your last sentence. BTW…many times my posts on this subject have been said to be untrue or innaccurate…mainly because there are those who do not like my views. My faith has even been questioned because I do not agree with illegal immigration and yet…you whine?
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Come now…I most certainly did not whine. My final remark was in fact addressed to you, as I did not care for your comment, ‘…IF in fact what you say about your job is true…’ That wording implies that I was either mendacious or incompetent in my original post, when in actual fact I was neither. Honest and well-informed disagreement is one of the privileges of living in a free society. Just because one disagrees with you does not mean they are whining.
 
Come now…I most certainly did not whine. My final remark was in fact addressed to you, as I did not care for your comment, ‘…IF in fact what you say about your job is true…’ That wording implies that I was either mendacious or incompetent in my original post, when in actual fact I was neither. Honest and well-informed disagreement is one of the privileges of living in a free society. Just because one disagrees with you does not mean they are whining.
I agree, and I certainly apologize…and I wish the poster who questioned my faith would do so to me…I certainly never meant my post in the way you took it.

One can be a good Catholic and still disagree with illegal immigration.

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leprosy.org/LEPstats.html

WOW!! This was hard for me to find! I’m sure you younger folks could do better. So, for #17 on the long list above - seems I have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting ill from a Mexican. Leprosy? Not an issue for me. Drug resistant TB? We’ve got it. Plague? I live in Colorado - our prairie dogs carry the fleas. Malaria? Our GI’s have been bringing that home for decades. The one thing that I found that really tugged my heartstrings was that Mexico is having an outbreak of a horse disease. Save the horses!! Ignore the a**es! Can we cut to the chase and start talking about how white people are threatened by the ‘browning of America’?? All this homework is tiring me out. jt
 
  1. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Most Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (U.S. CDC
Obviously Jude…you didn’t read that it was hispanic MEN in this study…your source made no differentiation.

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… quite another IMO to give loans…
Sidebar, and I only mean this for levity, and not a serious post. But isn’t it an oxymoron to say you “give” a loan? Isn’t the whole point of a loan that you are only loaning money? 😛
 
  1. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Most Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (U.S. CDC
Obviously Jude…you didn’t read that it was hispanic MEN in this study…your source made no differentiation.

?Blyss
In the same report, HIV/AIDS is the fifth leading cause of death in white males 35 to 44. Same source of infection too.

Nohome
 
Back to that long 21 point list. #1, 2,3,4,5,& 8 are all the same issue to me. Illegals are using our taxes, huh? The problem that I see is the welfare mentality in this country. The other problem I see is the illegal income tax that’s been foisted on us. Anybody got a source for what our home-grown welfare queens are costing us each year? jt
 
Sidebar, and I only mean this for levity, and not a serious post. But isn’t it an oxymoron to say you “give” a loan? Isn’t the whole point of a loan that you are only loaning money? 😛
LOL***…sorry ***but that is the phrase we use often here in this state, so you’ll have to take it up with all of us…when you can’t debate…berate…I see how you do it now…👍

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Back to that long 21 point list. #1, 2,3,4,5,& 8 are all the same issue to me. Illegals are using our taxes, huh? The problem that I see is the welfare mentality in this country. The other problem I see is the illegal income tax that’s been foisted on us. Anybody got a source for what our home-grown welfare queens are costing us each year? jt
Jude, I am opposed to anyone getting welfare just because they can. I don’t like seeing women have kid after kid just to get more money. But, I also don’t like seeing women who are ***not citizens ***sneak across the border at 9 months gestation to plop out a kid and have them become automatic citizens and thereby helping the whole clan to remain here. My money is on the CITIZEN every time. I am constantly amazed that some of our citizens would like to see our own poor citizens suffer and yet have no problemm with the illegals.😦

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In the same report, HIV/AIDS is the fifth leading cause of death in white males 35 to 44. Same source of infection too.

Nohome
I don’t think we are talking about white men…we are talking about hispanics and the DISEASES that THEY are bringing across the border.

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Jude, Your leprosy link in #21…please show me any statistic regarding Hispanics coming INTO the USA…or conversely any stating they are NOT bringing leprosy into this country. Just because leprosy is not endemic in Mexico or Latin America does not mean it isn’t there…nor that they are NOT bringing it in with them when they come into this country illegally.
I feel your link is very disingenuous.

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