What happens when only one side defines hate

[Peeps]

The nice thing is Peeps, you don’t need a “law”.

You can just send a monthly check from you to any “African Americans” you want to without legislating.

I personally think your attitude is condescending toward blacks, but you can do it your way without me on board. You can send out checks from your own bank account right now.

I already do. Taxes.

And I don’t think it should be up to individuals, but instead, the entire country needs to come to terms with their systematic dehumanizing of African Americans and the entire country needs to provide a reparation package that will make it clear for all generations that black people HAVE been dehumanized, and that they are indeed, fully human, not “lowly,” and that from here on, they will have all the privileges of American citizens and be allowed to succeed–or fail–on their own merits.

I don’t know how to deal with your comment about me being “condescending,” but I will be honest with you–I think this is why a lot of white people have washed their hands of the whole race issue. When they insist that black people already have civil rights and all the tools they need to succeed, they are called “racists.” But when they try to reach an understanding of what it means to be black in the U.S., they are labelled as “condescending.”

It’s a no-win situation, and so it’s no wonder that so many white people have bowed out.

 

[Cathoholic]

Peeps . . . .

I don’t think it should be up to individuals, but instead, the entire country needs to . . .

You are part of the “entire country”.

How much money have you personally sent African Americans from your own bank account in the last six months if I may ask?

The left always floats ideas to spend other peoples money (and confiscate some for themselves and their buddies in the process).

Don’t fall for these silly ideas Peeps. This is a paradigm of “collective guilt” and is inappropriate.

Peeps . . . .

I don’t think it should be up to individuals, but instead, the entire country needs to come to terms with their systematic dehumanizing of African Americans

The only “systematic dehumanizing of African Americans” I see here is the thought that African Americans cannot overcome issues that occurred long ago from people not even alive today without growing Government.

Don’t fall for such ridiculous thoughts Peeps.

African Americans are just like non-African Americans and are fine without another Government nanny program.

 

[Rockoh22]

Peeps. Are you white?

Why do whites hate whiteness so much?

 

[Cathoholic]

Here is some more leftist “systematic dehumanizing of African Americans” in their phony assumption that black people are somehow incapable of obtaining a voter ID.

 

[Emeraldlady]

Peeps. Are you white?

Why do whites hate whiteness so much?

We don’t hate whites. We hate the ideology of white supremacy. Do you deny that that attitude has a long pervasive history in this world?

 

[Rockoh22]

We hate the ideology of white supremacy.

How many white supremacist you know?

 

[Emeraldlady]

Emeraldlady:

We hate the ideology of white supremacy.

How many white supremacist you know?

I know a number of people who genuinely believe that white people have higher intelligence and superior features to black people. Their opinions make me cringe.

 

[Cathoholic]

Emeraldlady . . . .

We hate the ideology of white supremacy.

That is great.

And hopefully you also hate the ideology of black supremacy.

And hopefully you also hate the ideology of yellow supremacy.

And hopefully you also hate the ideology of Aboriginal supremacy.

You can hate all those ideas, without taxing a segment of the population based upon the color of their skin. Or their heritage. Or their genetics. Or whatever.

“Reparations” is just “collective guilt” disguised as something else.

Many of those politicians that hold these ideas project their own racism upon good non-racist people (in my opinion).

“Reparations” is just a plain bad idea.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Here is some more leftist “systematic dehumanizing of African Americans” in their phony assumption that black people are somehow incapable of obtaining a voter ID.

As Voter ID laws vary from state to state one’s actual experience will vary. In my state there was a law passed that changed whether or not two names were considered the same. For example, prior to the law being updated these two names would be considered the same.

• OReilly
• O’Reilly

Or these two names would be considered the same

• Joseph Robert-Hayes
• Joseph Robert Hayes

After the law was passed those above names would be considered legally distinct from each other. Because of various reasons such as constraints in older digital systems or administrative errors someone could end up with their name being represented differently on differently on different paperwork. Back when this had no impact on anyone it wasn’t something anyone cared about. After the exact match law was passed this could be a problem. A person that is registered to vote could find themselves unable to vote because of a missing character in a registration or ID. This change disproportionately affects minority voters.

For a person that ran into problems with this the solution wasn’t to go directly to the DMV to get a new license. Instead the person would have to go to a court house to go through the process of a legal name change. So Joseph Robert Hayes would have his name legally changed to Joseph Robert-Hayes. While this is happening he would also have to get his name updated on utility bills and bank accounts as bank statements and utility bills may be required to meet some of the documentation requirements for getting a new license issued.

After the court issues the name change and he has received a sufficient number of bills/statements with the updated name on it then he can go to the DMV to get the new ID. Once this has been done Joseph Robert-Hayes can now become a registered voter.

This isn’t a question of capability, but the presence of additional obstacles to overcome.

Personal story, when I last renewed my license I didn’t know about the increased documentation requirements. I happen to be going to the DMV on the same day that I was taking some legal paperwork somewhere else. It was only because I had the other paperwork and IDs that I was able to meet documentation requirements on my first visit.

 

[Cathoholic]

ThinkingSapien . . .

This change disproportionately affects minority voters.

Bold original.

Yes but so what?
That does not mean ALL voter ID law changes “disproportionately affects minority voters”.

ThinkingSapien . . .

As Voter ID laws vary from state to state one’s actual experience will vary.

So you are favoring voter ID laws but just the ones that you think don’t disproportionately affect minorities?

If not why bring it up?

If so, the conservatives will be happy to have you on board with pushing for voter ID laws ThinkingSapien.

 

[Zach]

Monday night, telling him that “white men who think like you” are the “greatest terrorist threat in this country.”

Yes and just wait until white men, and women, are in the minority. And it’s coming soon. The elitist whites filled with self hatred and guilt can only hide in their gated communities for so long. If they think they are immune from scapegoating that is currently happening to the deplorables they’ll be shocked when the same thing happens to them.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Yes and just wait until white men, and women, are in the minority. And it’s coming soon.

Under a lot of the current projections on which I hear people speak in about 20 years it would be less than 50%, but still the largest group.

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[Rockoh22]

We hate the ideology of white supremacy.

You and I agree. White Supremacy is BAD. Go a Step further, Racism is BAD, go a little more and Hate is BAD. The problem I see with racial divides now, is that you guys [white people] are calling our racism like it is a social status, like the recent opinion that was posted. I agree with that. I also do not like the race batters like Al Sharpton who see nothing but race all the time.

Let me give you the racism that you do not see. My godmother lives near me. I bought a house not long ago, and I liked the idea of the numbers written above the garage door. Instead of 1011 will be one zero one one, and they used cursive letters. I told her that I wanted this, and asked where could we buy it. She went on a rant, that it was a white supremacy symbol. She explained that it was meant to signal brown people to go back to their country because they can not read English.

She told me this in 2014 or 15.

I am still puzzled at that answer and, I do not even want to ask any more about that. Also the way she speaks of white people is denigrating. She even told me that once at a cash register, a white woman was looking at her, and she could tell that the white woman was a Trump supporter, but that she held back, because she really wanted to scream at the white woman. Hillary!

I asked her if the woman had anything representing Trump or that she was Republican, the answer was no.

If you see my godmother, her skin is pale. She passes by as a white woman. This is what I struggle to understand. She was never like this back home. She watches a lot of left wing outlets. And she voted for Obama for the sole reasoning that he is black. Nothing else. She said I want that black man in the office. And I could not and still can not say anything bad about Obama.

Oh and the crazy nonsense about Trump literally being at fault of everything. Nonsense that I seriously blocked out of my head, because they where way out there. Nonsense akin to: “Trump is going to get rid of pennies because they are black.” I made that one up, but that is seriously the nonsense she be talking about.

 

[Zach]

When it goes under 50 percent it’s only a matter of time before it’s much lower with differences in birth rates, immigration and miscegenation. As far as the latter in my area it seems it’s the norm, and with the culture pushing for it, it’s only going to increase. The last few movie releases I’ve seen it’s the jerk young white guy who repels the young white woman while the sensitive caring young non white guy wins the young white woman. Aspects of the culture are definitely pushing this.

 

[Rockoh22]

Under a lot of the current projections on which I hear people speak in about 20 years it would be less than 50%, but still the largest group.

Just so you know, I remember about 30 years ago, being taught that minorities would be the majority by 2020. It is 2020, yet we are still minority. Look at the abortion statistics, and the answer is there. Why push for free and easy access to abortion? I do not know, but I do know white people remain the majority.

 

[abucs]

In the USA an actual hate crime (which has nothing to do in the assertions of the OP) involves an action that is a crime. For example, killing someone is a crime. Killing someone because they are white, or black, or a woman, or a man is a hate crime.

That is true but there is also the religion of the Left who use hate crime and hate speech as part of their secular godless religion which they wish to do through the state.

It is a really bad religion and dangerous because it wishes to use the state to enforce it’s own dangerous ideology.

 

[abucs]

Yes. My background is Catholic Irish and some in my family had this exact same reaction to all things English. I believe it is truly a sickness that blinds people to reality and gives them someone to hate while believing themselves that they are against hate.

I think that people are truly at their worst when they believe themselves to be the victim and some other group are the harbingers of hate. For me what I call the religion of the Left promotes this under the cover of a substitute morality bounds up in identity politics.

 

[ThinkingSapien]

Just so you know, I remember about 30 years ago, being taught that minorities would be the majority by 2020.

There were projections made with dates earlier than that. Though some of those projections were tools for pushing immigration laws to prevent immigration from countries with people that were not considered “white” (note: what was or was not considered white has changed over times).

 

[Emeraldlady]

You can hate all those ideas, without taxing a segment of the population based upon the color of their skin. Or their heritage. Or their genetics. Or whatever.

“Reparations” is just “collective guilt” disguised as something else.

The rest of the irrelevant rant aside, people aren’t taxed on colour. Everyone with an income is taxed. (Except the elite rich).

And reparations aren’t ‘collective guilt’, they are justice. They are never going to undo what was done but represent recognition that a segment of society was discriminated against so fiercely that they were behind the eight ball no matter what. There are people still alive who were denied education and the right to vote or to secure a loan, simply because they were black. Just open a basic history book to see that millions of the most able bodied Africans were kidnapped for whites in the New World to advance themselves. The US thrived because of the work of these kidnapped people who slaved on cotton farms and on the railroads and other industries the generated white wealth. And for an American who has the basic knowledge of how his country thrived because of these kidnapped African people and how African countries suffered because their best and strongest were taken away, what a disgusting deplorable comment to call them ‘sh-thole’ countries. It is just a ghastly lack of respect and insult that can only be the result of deep seated racist views that prevent any kind of recognition of how all those scenarios panned out to start with.

 

[Zach]

Partly true. The country thrived because of the sweat and brawn and brains and risk taking of people of all races. You sound like those black supremacists who claim blacks are the only ones responsible for building the country. That’s as foolish as a white supremacist saying whites are the only ones who built the country. And perhaps at one time whites were the only ones who benefited from the wealth created by all Americans, but those days are long past. We are now in a multi racial society that goes way beyond the outmoded black/white dichotomy. In fact Asians have greater median household income on average than whites.