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LittleSoldier
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No, I wasn’t joking at all. I don’t go around singing Kumbaya all the time. I haven’t even thought of the song in years. But it translates to “Come by me, Lord” and I feel that mangling the title in order to mock it is disrespectful of God.
It saddens me when people make fun of a song about God.
Now making fun of songs that aren’t about God is fine with me.
“I met him at the candy store;
He turned around and smiled at me, ya get the picture?”
(other girls)“Yes, we see.”
“That’s when I fell for THE LEADER OF THE PACK!!!” (vrooom, vroooom)
“Look out!! LOOOK OUT!!! LOOOOK OOOOUTTTT!!!”
crash/smash/bits and pieces of motorcycle and leader of the pack flying off…
But I really think we’re off-topic here and the moderators will close this thread unless we get back on-topic.
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Sailor_Kenshin
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I don’t see where a song name applies. I don’t see the forum rule about that specifically.
I am not and do not mock prayer, so please do not put words into the mouths of others, nor try to read intent.
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Apryl
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Oh??
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And those comments I made about how 'adorable' and alla that...
Um...
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GKCT
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We don’t hold hands in our church, and I am glad about that.
As far as receiving the Holy Eucharist in the hand: Paul VI gave an indult to some countries, one of which was France, it had become an established practice there. In other countries the Bishops elected to return to the Eucharist on the tongue, as the Pope does. If one crumb should fall on the floor and be trampled, that is Jesus being desecrated. Receiving in the hand, you are now acting as the minister of communion. And most people don’t do it correctly, they hold the left hand over the right, which is the exact opposite of what they should do. However, the indult from Paul did not include the US, so it shouldn’t be done here at all. But our priests allow this to continue.
Also, the omans, holding your arms up as the priest does. This is a priestly position, petitioning for us in the name of Christ. This is not something the laity should be doing.
As far as receiving the Holy Eucharist in the hand: Paul VI gave an indult to some countries, one of which was France, it had become an established practice there. In other countries the Bishops elected to return to the Eucharist on the tongue, as the Pope does. If one crumb should fall on the floor and be trampled, that is Jesus being desecrated. Receiving in the hand, you are now acting as the minister of communion. And most people don’t do it correctly, they hold the left hand over the right, which is the exact opposite of what they should do. However, the indult from Paul did not include the US, so it shouldn’t be done here at all. But our priests allow this to continue.
Also, the omans, holding your arms up as the priest does. This is a priestly position, petitioning for us in the name of Christ. This is not something the laity should be doing.
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Sailor_Kenshin
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Wanting to use and hone your talents is a good thing, yet —are you looking down upon menial labor?Exactly! I mean here’s another example. I’m trying to be a writer and I spend a lot of times trying to make my stories work. I study for my English major. I research stuff like myths, folklore, or other stories that would give me ideas. I reflect on my planned theme (religion, philosophy, and life experiences help a lot here).
Now enter people like the one responded to who think I oughta be helping in church more often than I stay cooped up at home, always in front of a computer, or behind a book.
Well excuse me sir/madam but what exactly do you want a guy like me to help around in? Polishing pews? Washing chalices? So much for trying to refine the talent God gives ya…
Oh wait, you mean help out in the community? What service would you have me provide? Teach ABCs to orphan toddlers? Read them Veggie Tales? (When my expertise lies more along the lines of King Arthur and Dante’s Inferno) :ehh:
If you are, look at Mother Theresa. Did she think that the lowest of tasks was beneath her?
What about Father Damien, who washed and cared for lepers?
Many of the saints embraced ‘holystoning.’ And maybe your local church really needs a strong young back to polish pews.
And what’s wrong with teaching ABCs to toddlers? Maybe that’s not your charism, but again, it’s a good thing to sometimes go outside your comfort zone and offer it up to God.
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Lutheranteach
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long story short…I was a coroner’s investigator for a brief period and was the man you did not want to knock on your door. In that role I always wore a tie. I also was a church volunteer at the time and would visit with shut-ins, etc. Someone finally told me my visits were scaring people and it came to the point that: no tie=good news/no news. Tie=bad news. Even today, I usually keep the sport coat, but it’s rare that I wear a tie to church.
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Lost_Wanderer
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Okay with all due respect, I was just simply saying that it’s not about comfort zones. It’s about knowing that some things are outside people’s jurisdiction. Surely I could do more good as a writer than I would in the things you’ve cited. The same way I could do more in entertaining children with my knowledge of mythical beasts than awkwardly reading to them kiddie-fied versions of Bible stories.
And besides, as much as I’m actually willing to do manual labor for a Christian cause, my poor, skinny constitution just makes it farther from my forte.
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Sailor_Kenshin
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I’m simply pointing out a general attitude toward manual labor. Many people look down upon it. Why that should be I do not know. Pride? Fear?Okay with all due respect, I was just simply saying that it’s not about comfort zones. It’s about knowing that some things are outside people’s jurisdiction. Surely I could do more good as a writer than I would in the things you’ve cited. The same way I could do more in entertaining children with my knowledge of mythical beasts than awkwardly reading to them kiddie-fied versions of Bible stories.
And besides, as much as I’m actually willing to do manual labor for a Christian cause, my poor, skinny constitution just makes it farther from my forte.
And who’s to know what ‘greater good’ anyone, myself included, could do, other than digging ditches, polishing floors, and reading to kids?
I thought it was supposed to be about what God wants, not what we want.
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Lost_Wanderer
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Well speaking for myself, I don’t really look down on it as much as I’m saying that I’m simply not physically strong enough to excel in it. Writing on the other hand…
That may be true, but it sure doesn’t make sense for God to grant someone the talent of let’s say music and expect them to be a fisherman.
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gurneyhalleck1
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I’ve never heard of anyone joining Catholicism because it’s “easy?” Usually folks LEAVE Catholicism because it’s too hard whether it’s divorce, birth control, weekly obligation, Lenten requirements, confession, etc. Catholicism isn’t easy? Of course there are people, many in fact, who don’t know squat about their Catholic faith and don’t bother to observe it. These types of people are in ALL religions?
Do you know what I say? Give’m a slap!
They are Catholic becuase it is easy.
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Sailor_Kenshin
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Tell me about it! This is the hardest thing I’ve ever done!
What was that old ad for the Marines? The Toughest Job You’ll Ever Love?
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Nicea325
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Then how should one place their hands,say if they are right-handed?
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Nicea325
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Well gurney being Catholic Christian is a way of life. The problem I acknowledge with Christians of all walks is the belief that Christianity should to adapt to their life-style instead of being the other way around.
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mangy_dog
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- Catholics who do the “greet and meet” in line to recieve communion.
- Catholics who nod their heads instead of saying amen.
- Priests who let #22 get away with not saying amen.
- Catholics who say " all religions are more or less the same".
- Catholics who say " I used to be Catholic".
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LittleSoldier
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So…CAF must list every single example? You remind me of the owner of a restaurant with a severe cockroach infestation. I told him to fill all the holes in the walls. He insisted that I write down each hole as a separate violation. There were probably over a thousand holes.
“Kumbaya” is a proper name. That is what the rule is about. ALL proper names.
I humbly request that you do not try to read my intent and that you discontinue making jokes about proper names. Do you think that because you say you don’t do it you don’t? I don’t believe it works that way.
“Someone’s dying, Lord, Kum Bye Yah!!”
Sure looks mocking to me. It looks like whoever is singing that is gee, I don’t know, saying bye to the dying person and then adding a mesh of yee-ha!! or galloping along on his horse and snapping his whip at it - Yah!! Yah!!
And that is my last statement on Kumbaya.
I’m not going to say anything more on the subject.
But now that we have both vented and made our opinions known I respectfully and humbly request that we turn our swords into plowshares and be brother and sister in Christ, the way we should be. I don’t want to fight with you.
Is that OK with you?
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Sailor_Kenshin
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I am who and what I am. The huggy-wuggy sloppy-agape type of hand-holding during a vertical prayer is NOT me. I was under the impression I had a right to express that.
Are we getting so dangerously close to a Stalinist society that the mere mention of something that might ‘offend’ is good enough to send people off to the salt mines?
Are we getting so dangerously close to a Stalinist society that the mere mention of something that might ‘offend’ is good enough to send people off to the salt mines?
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LittleSoldier
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Oh yeah, we’re kewl!!Oh??
Ok… we are kewl, right?Code:And those comments I made about how 'adorable' and alla that... Um...
And I’m still adorable.
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LittleSoldier
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Is that your response to my post asking if we can turn our swords into plowshares, etc.?
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