Doesn’t the Samaritan woman at the well, the one who gave Jesus water and who Jesus “told her everything about herself” say that she believes he was the one was to come into the world. As I recall he confirms this belief? I hope I’m correct. It’s happened before!
It’s one of the most interesting things I find about Judaism, actually; some Christians point to the Temple as directly analogous to the Church, and that loss of the Temple was as catastrophic as the loss of the Church would be; in one way or another, or to different degrees, they’re saying that the loss of the Second Temple meant that there’s no longer “real” Judaism.
You do seem to be under the misapprehension that things are necessarily what it is that you define them as being.
What is the focus of Judaism, would you say?
No, you’re assuming that, in Judaism, things have the same meaning and significance that they have in Christianity - that concepts of the ‘afterlife’ in Judaism are the same as those of Christianity, for example. It’s not unusual for Christians to do this sort of thing, it’s what could be described as ‘inventing a Judaism to talk about’.
And you seem to be under the misapprehension that labeling things changes what they actually are. This is what I meant by relativism, ‘Your truth is… but my truth is…’, Truth is relative. Truth is not however relative, it is absolute, truth is true regardless of what you or I think about it or what we do or don’t call it, it stands on its own.
I couldn’t say specifically but as long as it is generally the same as other religions, that will suffice.
Actually I am somewhat aware that there are differences between the two, there are also similarities however. Of course that would depend on the school of theology, in Christs day some Jews believed in the Resurrection of the dead and some didn’t.
I may look at it.
Oh, that’s easy, my truth is absolute, yours isn’t.
Again the my truth, your truth issue. There is no such thing as ‘My’ Truth or ‘Your’ Truth, something is true regardless of whether people perceive it as such, regardless of who holds it and regardless of what people call it. It is an independent thing that stands by its own merits and value, not that which others assign to it.
That’s what I said.
What you said was
which can by no strecth of the imagination mean the same thing as what I posted.
It is you know, except you don’t know because you don’t have access to absolute truth in order to recognize it.
Yawn
Whaaat?
Really? I thought that Jews were hardy practitioners of their beliefs. You know, reading the Torah and becoming men at their Barmitzfahs(Incorrect spelling?).I wish what you say were true. Unfortunately, for many Jews it is not the case. I would imagine it is the same for Catholics. Instead of their being “hardy practitioners of their beliefs,” they are more likely “hardly practitioners of their beliefs.”Whaaat?
…hmmm I guess there should come a time when I should start learning about Jews. Might be helpful.
-MontChevalier
I’m really finding this hard to believe. How can this be possible?
Also, Meltzerboy, I would like to add that I have never met any Jewish people before. So I have very little experience regarding Jews (At all). Can you recommend a good book on Jewish history or perhaps something along the lines of understanding Jews throughout the ages. I especially prefer Jewish history, as I’m more of a History buff than anything else. I understand that Jews lived in Poland well for over a near thousand years, the WWII incidents (Not intending to bring up bad memories), and then the formation of the Republic of Israel, but that’s as far as I go.
Good move.
I see you want to get engaged in wordgames, feel free to do so. I’ll be putting you on my ignore list
What a waste of time
What a waste of time
Like Meltzerboy said it’s as possible as “cultural Catholicism” but I suppose, it might also have to do with, going by what I’ve heard from Jews and read, what Judaism encompasses in contrast to Christianity. Judaism has a far wider scope IMO–it’s a religion, though not as faith-dogmatic as Christianity, but it’s also a people–some have described the people aspect as a an adopted family unit, a nation, a civilisation. And if the scope is that broad, it’s going to embrace quite a lot of diversity.I’m really finding this hard to believe. How can this be possible?
The Jewish system is built on good and excellent traditions which would make young Jewish boys and girls actually WANT to be Jews. This…this is like saying the sun has gotten dark and the moon isn’t coming back. You know you’ll miss both.
Is it the different sects of Jews? (I heard that certain sects don’t exactly like each other) Perhaps a fault of government-sanctioned schooling? (Kinda like over here, where the educational system is severely lacking).
Please clue me in. This is coming as a complete shock to me.
-MontChevalier