What is your stand on this dilemma?

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I wasn’t in this situation but my catechism teacher was in a similar one. During college, his friend texted to pick her up and drive her to a pharmacy In the morning. Side note- I don’t know my former catechism teacher was aware of her intentions. She bought a morning-after-pill and he drove her home. It was a silent ride. If he was truly unaware of her intentions and wanted to help her ride. I am unsure where he would have been complicit. After she bought the pill, should he not drove her back? I think she was a devout Catholic according to him. Should he have instructed her on Catholic teaching on the drive home?
These are questions to consider, so I thought I would share.
 
That’s probably the more likely way that people get abortions nowadays anyway.
 
Not to be picky. I am assuming you mean induced abortions. Spontaneous abortions are miscarriages.
 
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I would have tried to talk her out of taking it, explaining to her that there are alternatives to murdering the life that is/could be growing within her. If that didn’t work I would remind her of the moral consequences of taking this pill. If that didn’t work, I would tell her that she lied to me and I can not help her murder an innocent baby and ask her to get out of my car and would leave her at the pharmacy. It might be considered “rude” by some, but my soul matters more to me then the sinful and selfish choice of some girl who doesn’t want to face the consequences for her choice to engage in fornication.
 
Patri said:
Is being at the clinic considered Christian charity or would we somehow be complicit by being there?
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Complicit. If your presence can be anticipated, it may influence the ultimate decision.
 
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Murder has a very specific meaning. Having worked with those in crisis pregnancy for decades, from long conversations with a regional director of Planned Parenthood to sitting on the phone with my goddaughter across the country asking if I could adopt this child instead of her aborting and worlds in-between, I’ve never encountered a woman who goes into an abortion procedure with murder in her heart.

Women have abortions because they are in despair, they are terrified.
 
TheLittleLady said:
Murder has a very specific meaning. Having worked with those in crisis pregnancy for decades, from long conversations with a regional director of Planned Parenthood to sitting on the phone with my goddaughter across the country asking if I could adopt this child instead of her aborting and worlds in-between, I’ve never encountered a woman who goes into an abortion procedure with murder in her heart.

Women have abortions because they are in despair, they are terrified.
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Do you believe that an unborn person has the same dignity and value as a born person? Do you believe that life inside the womb is as valuable as life outside the womb?
 
TheLittleLady said:
Murder has a very specific meaning.
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Yes, and I’m choosing the word ‘murder’ for a very specific reason.

I think we have to get back to calling things what they are. The father of lies has been on the loose too long in the world, subtly teaching people to call things what they aren’t, knowing this gradually malforms their minds and consciences and leads them deeper and deeper into evil.

Murder is murder. The devil wants us to euphemise murder and call it something else, as part of paving the path to hell along which we commit more murder.

No.
 
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I believe what holy mother Church teaches. That every life has diginty from conception until natural death.
 
TheLittleLady said:
I believe what holy mother Church teaches. That every life has diginty from conception until natural death.
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Ok then, once more: Would you support someone who is in the process of killing her two-year-old the same way you are speaking of supporting someone who is in the process of killing her unborn child?
 
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Abortion is death by natural causes?
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No, please read the quote above this statement.
I said this in response to a poster who was comparing a priest giving Last Rites to a terminally ill person to someone supporting a woman having an abortion. I responded that those two instances are not comparable because having a terminal illness is death by natural causes and abortion is death by killing.
 
Ok. Sorry. These threads ‘happen’ so fast, it’s hard for me to catch up. I’m getting old 🙂
 
I’ve answered this question already. Murder is about intent.

Do you know a person (not a random internet post) who has had an abortion? Did they go in with the intent to murder?
 
TheLittleLady said:
I’ve answered this question already. Murder is about intent.

Do you know a person (not a random internet post) who has had an abortion? Did they go in with the intent to murder?
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You’re splitting hairs by arguing about the meaning of the word murder. But, fine, let’s not call it murder. Let’s call it “ending a life.”

Would you similarly support a woman ending the life of her two-year-old because she is in despair and terrified (all the same reasons someone has an abortion) the same way you are speaking of supporting a woman ending the life of her unborn child?
 
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TheLittleLady said:
I’ve answered this question already. Murder is about intent.

Do you know a person (not a random internet post) who has had an abortion? Did they go in with the intent to murder?
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Any woman who goes in to an abortion voluntarily does have the intent of murder. She just tries to call it by another name.
What else would you call it when someone is pregnant but she wants the baby / fetus / unborn child to just go away?
 
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I was in this position 40 years ago when was only 19 with my best friend. I tried talking her out of it. Told her I would give her money every week and help her raise the baby. I refused to take her there and told her why. But I agreed to pick her up afterwards. I pushed it to the back of my mind afterwards, but last 10 years or so I think about it sometimes and get so angry at her (dont see her anymore) for putting that on me. I have confessed it and pray every day to God to help me to forgive her.
 
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