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And how are we ‘treating people’? Again there’s no comparison. We’re here talking. I’m not advocating violence towards Moslems. I don’t see others here doing so. We’re having a discussion.you’ll have to become one when you marry dolphinlove then
We’re dealing with facts. (see below). Moslems here retort that we’re insulting them, or they turn to attack Christianity, and then in step the well-meaning Christians who would like to think that everyone’s as peaceful as they are; who believe such discussions somehow compare to acts of violence.
Facts: Islam is a religion of violence, and terror. This is evidenced from how they have treated friends and enemies alike. And, how Moslems act today.
The Banu Qurayzah tribe had aided Islam in his early struggles, refused to convert to Islam (recall that Muslims will quote - there’s no compulsion in religion’!). They were then slaughtered - after they’d surrendered to Muhammed.
The members of the last surviving Jewish tribe in Medinah, Banu Qurayzah, were even less fortunate. Muhammad offered the men conversion to Islam as an alternative to death; upon their refusal, all 900 were decapitated in front of their enslaved women and children. The women were subsequently raped; Muhammad chose as his concubine one Raihana Bint Amr, whose father and husband were both slaughtered before her eyes only hours earlier.
chroniclesmagazine.org/Chronicles/February1999/0299Trifkovic.htm
This is found in the Koran
“And He has caused to descend from their strongholds the Jews that assisted them. And he struck terror into their hearts. Some you slaughtered and some you took prisoner”
Sura 33.25
Muhammad himself over-saw the execution of these PoWs. He took one of the women for himself. Can you imagine her horror. She’s just seen all her male kinsfolk, including teenage boys killed, and then she’s got to share his bed?
Violence is part of Islam. Violence towards women is manifest
Muslim cleric: women incite men’s lust with ‘satanic dress’
smh.com.au/news/National/Muslim-cleric-women-incite-mens-lust-with-satanic-dress/2005/04/23/1114152362381.html
Here’s another example of Islamic opinion…
No one who knows the religion of Islam would say that it is the religion of equality…‘because Allaah has made one of them to excel the other’ i.e., because men are superior to women and are better than women.
islamqa.com/index.php?ref=1105&ln=eng
Further, from the same site
" The Qur’aan states that the testimony of one man is equivalent to the testimony of two women."
"And men are different in intellectual terms, for men are known for their strength of understanding and their memory as compared to women. Women are weaker than men in memory and forget more than men do. This is well known, for most of the reputable scholars in the world are men. There are some women who are more intelligent and have better memories than some men, but this does not cancel out the general rule. Most cases are as we have described above.
With regard to emotions, men speak of them when they get angry or when they are happy, but women are affected by the slightest emotional effects, so their tears flow at the slightest emotional provocation. "
Thus when this Sheikh was calling for women to be kept at home he probably very sincerely thought that this was indeed the best way of protecting them. He’s just so out of touch with western values. He’s idea of women can be found in Hadith.
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 30:
Narrated Abdullah bin ‘Umar:
Allah’s Apostle said, "Evil omen is in the women, the house and the horse.’
zawaj.com/articles/sahihbukhari.html
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 31:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
Evil omen was mentioned before the Prophet: The Prophet said, “If there is evil omen in anything, it is in the house, the woman and the horse.”
(Ibid)
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 32:
Narrated Sahl bin Sad:
Allah’s Apostle said, “If at all there is bad omen, it is in the horse, the woman, and the house.”
(Ibid)
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 33:
Narrated Usama bin Zaid:
The Prophet said, “After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women.”
(Ibid)
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