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Montalban
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Ta. At present I’ve only got a Penguin Classics book which has “Walden” and “Civil Disobedience”
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dolphinlove
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No, i havent, i was actually going to google it but got sidetracked.Did you hear anything about a Koran being urinated upon at Melbourne Airport?
fatma made such a claim, but has vanished from this thread after I asked for evidence to this.
But i will remind her of the time a muslim boy that urinated on the bible next time she is on!
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fatma
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I’m really confused by the above: I was replying to Montalban and then Dolphinlove thought I was replying to her so maybe I got mixed up and I meant the pedantic remark about taking the religious texts literally. I was replying but evrytime I posted you had already posted so I got it out of sync. and I was being humourous not trying to be insulting. I will find the stuff about the Quoran being urinated on. It occurred after the muslim boys at a school camp desecrated the bible.:kissme: :harp:
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Palladio
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Sounds great. I’m no expert on him but the editor I mentioned, a friend, is.Ta. At present I’ve only got a Penguin Classics book which has “Walden” and “Civil Disobedience”
HDT is not quite the author Americans make him out to be (I guess no author is the author most make him out to be…), and he translated Greek and Latin authors, interestingly. Also edited by KVA (Princeton UP).
God bless.
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fatma
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Koran abused in Bible payback
Richard Kerbaj
December 22, 2006
A KORAN has been torn up and smeared with faeces and the floors of a Melbourne prayer hall urinated on, in an apparent retaliation to Muslim schoolboys desecrating the Bible.
The Islamic community was last night furious as the police continued their investigation into the “criminal damage” done to the Melbourne airport facility on Wednesday morning.
Muslim spiritual leader Fehmi Naji El-Imam condemned the desecration as “ignorant and immature”, fearing that it was in retaliation to an incident earlier this month where young boys at a Melbourne Islamic school burned and urinated on the Bible.
“This kind of behaviour just puts you off,” the Victorian Board of Imams’ secretary told The Australian last night. “We want to eliminate all these kind of things from happening to any (holy book).”
While police last night refused to outline or confirm the damage done to the prayer centre, Sheik Fehmi said he was told that the floor was urinated on and the Koran was torn up and someone had “wiped themselves” with it.
He said while he was not expecting any violent retaliation from the Islamic community, the offenders should be “strongly punished by the law”.
“The courts should handle it once the person is caught,” Sheik Fehmi said.
A statement by the Victorian Board of Imams last night warned the Islamic and Christian community against an “us and them” mentality.
"The prayer room is a place that must remain clean, not covered in urine and faeces.
"Enough is enough. No more us and them … The striving of our forefathers was not for this; they would be really ashamed of us if they were to witness what we have sunk to.
“It is time we got together and used our similarities to move forward instead of our differences to go backwards.”
Police said the prayer hall was predominantly used by taxi drivers while waiting for customers at the airport.
A Melbourne airport spokesman refused to comment last night, except to say it was a police matter.
theaustralian.news.com.au/story…26-2702,00.html
Richard Kerbaj
December 22, 2006
A KORAN has been torn up and smeared with faeces and the floors of a Melbourne prayer hall urinated on, in an apparent retaliation to Muslim schoolboys desecrating the Bible.
The Islamic community was last night furious as the police continued their investigation into the “criminal damage” done to the Melbourne airport facility on Wednesday morning.
Muslim spiritual leader Fehmi Naji El-Imam condemned the desecration as “ignorant and immature”, fearing that it was in retaliation to an incident earlier this month where young boys at a Melbourne Islamic school burned and urinated on the Bible.
“This kind of behaviour just puts you off,” the Victorian Board of Imams’ secretary told The Australian last night. “We want to eliminate all these kind of things from happening to any (holy book).”
While police last night refused to outline or confirm the damage done to the prayer centre, Sheik Fehmi said he was told that the floor was urinated on and the Koran was torn up and someone had “wiped themselves” with it.
He said while he was not expecting any violent retaliation from the Islamic community, the offenders should be “strongly punished by the law”.
“The courts should handle it once the person is caught,” Sheik Fehmi said.
A statement by the Victorian Board of Imams last night warned the Islamic and Christian community against an “us and them” mentality.
"The prayer room is a place that must remain clean, not covered in urine and faeces.
"Enough is enough. No more us and them … The striving of our forefathers was not for this; they would be really ashamed of us if they were to witness what we have sunk to.
“It is time we got together and used our similarities to move forward instead of our differences to go backwards.”
Police said the prayer hall was predominantly used by taxi drivers while waiting for customers at the airport.
A Melbourne airport spokesman refused to comment last night, except to say it was a police matter.
theaustralian.news.com.au/story…26-2702,00.html
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dolphinlove
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oh this happened after a muslim boy urinated on the bible…Koran abused in Bible payback
Richard Kerbaj
December 22, 2006
A KORAN has been torn up and smeared with faeces and the floors of a Melbourne prayer hall urinated on, in an apparent retaliation to Muslim schoolboys desecrating the Bible.
The Islamic community was last night furious as the police continued their investigation into the “criminal damage” done to the Melbourne airport facility on Wednesday morning.
Muslim spiritual leader Fehmi Naji El-Imam condemned the desecration as “ignorant and immature”, fearing that it was in retaliation to an incident earlier this month where young boys at a Melbourne Islamic school burned and urinated on the Bible.
“This kind of behaviour just puts you off,” the Victorian Board of Imams’ secretary told The Australian last night. “We want to eliminate all these kind of things from happening to any (holy book).”
While police last night refused to outline or confirm the damage done to the prayer centre, Sheik Fehmi said he was told that the floor was urinated on and the Koran was torn up and someone had “wiped themselves” with it.
He said while he was not expecting any violent retaliation from the Islamic community, the offenders should be “strongly punished by the law”.
“The courts should handle it once the person is caught,” Sheik Fehmi said.
A statement by the Victorian Board of Imams last night warned the Islamic and Christian community against an “us and them” mentality.
"The prayer room is a place that must remain clean, not covered in urine and faeces.
"Enough is enough. No more us and them … The striving of our forefathers was not for this; they would be really ashamed of us if they were to witness what we have sunk to.
“It is time we got together and used our similarities to move forward instead of our differences to go backwards.”
Police said the prayer hall was predominantly used by taxi drivers while waiting for customers at the airport.
A Melbourne airport spokesman refused to comment last night, except to say it was a police matter.
theaustralian.news.com.au/story…26-2702,00.html
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Palladio
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Which is strange because Muslims supposedly venerate Christ as a prophet. Or do they do that merely inside of what their faith tells them, without actually reading the NT?oh this happened after a muslim boy urinated on the bible…
The Koran is such an omnium gatherum of gibberish the last thing I would think to do with it is scatological. It is already such a steaming pile.
Is there a law per se in Oz against this, however? Or was it a public health or decency code violation?
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dolphinlove
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Each state has different legislation for this, im not sure what Victoria’s legislation on this is.Which is strange because Muslims supposedly venerate Christ as a prophet. Or do they do that merely inside of what their faith tells them, without actually reading the NT?
The Koran is such an omnium gatherum of gibberish the last thing I would think to do with it is scatological. It is already such a steaming pile.
Is there a law per se in Oz against this, however? Or was it a public health or decency code violation?
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RobHom
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And yet it would seem that that is precisely what many people do every day…especially ersatz christians who decide what or what is not theologically or scripturally “justified” about every other religion on the planet. And muslims do precisely the same thing about every other religion on the planet…that does not agree with theirs, which is about 99.9999999% of the world’s religions.You aren’t a Muslim. How do you get to decide what has “theological justification” in Islamic terms? As I’ve said a million times, this makes no sense. You can observe what Muslims have said and done, but you can’t make theological judgments based on a religion in which you don’t believe.
Edwin, I understand where you are coming from. But I don’t honestly think its right for you to be the apologist for muslims. If a muslim is a muslim…and says that they believe what their prophet says to them in Quran…then they are obligated to support a jihad, and if you were to read Sura 9… you would not like what you read. Now some muslims may be comparable to christians who think divorce or abortion is ok…but the orthodox ones cannot be.I’m sorry, but there are many Muslims who do not believe in “external jihad” except in the sense of a defensive war. You may not think that their views are exegetically justified, but why would anyone care what you or I think on the subject? We aren’t Muslims. Edwin
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Palladio
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So I am guessing one Muslim kid does one outrageous thing soon seconded by a person or persons unknown. The Muslim kid is not punished? The other or others not arrested? The cleric calls for the strongest punishment, as presumably he must, but maybe the only law broken was a health law, and the offenders would be fined (at least in the U. S.). Descecration of public religious buildings and monuments seems to be a crime, and should be, but all this presents a different case.Each state has different legislation for this, im not sure what Victoria’s legislation on this is.
I am still left wondering why a boy! would do such a thing within a religion which holds Christ as a prophet, and why the cleric, apparently, said nothing more about that.
To a Christian, the Koran presumably has about as much interest and value as Hitler’s Mein Kampf, and no relevance whatsoever. But what did the boy assume from his religion about Christianity that lead him to do what he did?
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RobHom
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And…what if any corrective and punitive actions did the muslims take against the boy or boys who desecrated the Bible?
I would venture to guess…none. They probably “tacitly” approved.
I would venture to guess…none. They probably “tacitly” approved.
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fatma
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They were expelled from their school.
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Palladio
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Yes, that is what I am wondering.And…what if any corrective and punitive actions did the muslims take against the boy or boys who desecrated the Bible?
I would venture to guess…none. They probably “tacitly” approved.
Did the press cover Muslim outrage at the sickening and perverse act, or was there none to cover? I think perhaps the latter. It would be nice to be proved wrong on this one.
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Palladio
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Good! But was it a Muslim school? And are they still expelled or only for a short time?They were expelled from their school.
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RobHom
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Because he was taught a very sick and destructive credo.I am still left wondering why a boy! would do such a thing within a religion which holds Christ as a prophet, and why the cleric, apparently, said nothing more about that.
You would have to talk to the sick individuals that “taught him in the name of their god”. I used a small “g” on the word god because I am not in the least convinced that Mohammed was talking about the same God we worship.To a Christian, the Koran presumably has about as much interest and value as Hitler’s Mein Kampf, and no relevance whatsoever. But what did the boy assume from his religion about Christianity that lead him to do what he did?
There is not one shred of evidence that shows me that their god and our God are the same… if they were??? Why would there be such an absolute difference in writings and theology?
Nowhere in the Bible are Christians exhorted to “slay the infidels” or commit violence against non-believers, quite the opposite is true. There is nothing “peaceful” about islam.
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Palladio
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I certainly no longer believe they worship God, but instead some idea they call Allah, and all the evidence I’ve seen adduced for whether they do worship God exists in their say so, which is hardly evidence.Because he was taught a very sick and destructive credo.
You would have to talk to the sick individuals that “taught him in the name of their god”. I used a small “g” on the word god because I am not in the least convinced that Mohammed was talking about the same God we worship.
There is not one shred of evidence that shows me that their god and our God are the same… if they were??? Why would there be such an absolute difference in writings and theology?
Nowhere in the Bible are Christians exhorted to “slay the infidels” or commit violence against non-believers, quite the opposite is true. There is nothing “peaceful” about islam.
Whereas the continuities between Christianity and Judaism are patent, if contested at some points, those between Islam and Christianity are far from clear, and probably non-existant. For one thing, if Mohammed actually read the NT or OT that would be as surprising as hearing that, deep down, Hitler really loved Jews. However he got his mistakes about Christianity, he made a hash of it all.
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RobHom
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And you should as well be ashamed and hide your face at the shame created by muslims around the world committing atrocities and murdering men, women and children in the name of your so-called prophet and god.I’m ashamed at the intolerance of my fellow catholics on this forum.
There is nothing peaceful about islam. The Quran makes that abundantly clear.
The only difference between islam, the Communists, and the Nazi’s is that islam hides behind a so-called god.
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fatma
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theaustralian.news.com.au/story…83-2702,00.html
Muslim boys urinated on Bible
Cameron Stewart
06dec06
TWO Muslim students have been expelled from an Islamic school in Melbourne for urinating and spitting on a Bible and setting it on fire.
The explosive incident has forced the East Preston Islamic College to call in a senior imam to tell its 650 Muslim students that the Bible and Christianity must be respected.
Anxious teachers at the school have also petitioned principal Shaheem Doutie, expressing “grave concern” about an “inculcation of hatred and radical attitudes towards non-Muslims” at the school, including towards non-Muslim teachers.
The Bible desecration took place last week at a school camp held near Bacchus Marsh, about 50km west of Melbourne, attended by 33 teenage Muslim boys ranging in age from Year7 to Year 10.
A school report of the incident, obtained by The Australian, says it happened late at night and involved three students and another two watching.
“The main perpetrator (a Year 7 student) urinated on the Holy Bible, tore some pages from the Holy Book and burnt them then finally spat on the Holy Book,” the report says.
The second boy, from Year 9, “tore pages from the Holy Book and burnt them”, while a third student, from Year 7, “tore pages from the Holy Bible and then he rolled it up like a cigarette and pretended to smoke it”.
The boys come from a variety of ethnic Muslim backgrounds – one is believed to be an Albanian/Malaysian, another Lebanese and another Indonesian.
Mr Doutie, whose school receives about $3.9 million in state and federal government funding each year, told The Australian yesterday that both he and the school community were appalled by the Bible desecration and that he had expelled the first two boys and suspended the third.
In a letter to all staff on Monday, Mr Doutie wrote: "The school unconditionally apologises for this horrible act as conducted by some illiterate and ignorant students while under the care of EPIC teachers.
"We regard the desecration of the Bible in a very serious light and therefore we have taken serious action against the offenders.
“The Bible is an important book both for non-Muslims and Muslims and should be treated as a holy book by all religions.”
Mr Doutie said he did not believe that the boys realised the significance of their act.
But to ensure it did not happen again he had called in the assistant imam of the Newport Mosque, Oman Haouli, to tell the students that the Bible was a sacred book. “My lesson to them was to respect their neighbours and respect all religions,” Mr Haouli said yesterday.
But the desecration incident has shaken the nerves of the school’s teachers, about half of whom are non-Muslim.
A petition signed by 22 teachers expressed “anguish and dismay at the grave incident of the desecration of the Holy Bible”.
“This whole incident implies a deep hatred inculcated in the students towards the Christians/non-Muslim teachers,” it says.
The petition said there had been “previous incidents of students misbehaving towards non-Muslim teachers”.
It called on the school to “take steps to rectify this explosive situation” to ensure the safety of teachers.
Mr Doutie said the school had tried to contact the parents of the expelled boys to find out why they had desecrated the Bible. But he said the school had not received a response.
EPIC is an eight-year-old primary and secondary school in Melbourne’s north that caters mostly to the children of working-class immigrant Somali and Lebanese families.
The Bible desecration comes at a time of heightened tension among Australia’s 300,000-member Islamic community, many of whom believe their religion is being unfairly discriminated against because of terrorism fears.
Many Muslims remain angry about the public humiliation suffered by their spiritual leader, the mufti Taj Din al-Hilali, after the Sheik likened female rape victims to pieces of meat who brought the attacks on themselves.
Muslim boys urinated on Bible
Cameron Stewart
06dec06
TWO Muslim students have been expelled from an Islamic school in Melbourne for urinating and spitting on a Bible and setting it on fire.
The explosive incident has forced the East Preston Islamic College to call in a senior imam to tell its 650 Muslim students that the Bible and Christianity must be respected.
Anxious teachers at the school have also petitioned principal Shaheem Doutie, expressing “grave concern” about an “inculcation of hatred and radical attitudes towards non-Muslims” at the school, including towards non-Muslim teachers.
The Bible desecration took place last week at a school camp held near Bacchus Marsh, about 50km west of Melbourne, attended by 33 teenage Muslim boys ranging in age from Year7 to Year 10.
A school report of the incident, obtained by The Australian, says it happened late at night and involved three students and another two watching.
“The main perpetrator (a Year 7 student) urinated on the Holy Bible, tore some pages from the Holy Book and burnt them then finally spat on the Holy Book,” the report says.
The second boy, from Year 9, “tore pages from the Holy Book and burnt them”, while a third student, from Year 7, “tore pages from the Holy Bible and then he rolled it up like a cigarette and pretended to smoke it”.
The boys come from a variety of ethnic Muslim backgrounds – one is believed to be an Albanian/Malaysian, another Lebanese and another Indonesian.
Mr Doutie, whose school receives about $3.9 million in state and federal government funding each year, told The Australian yesterday that both he and the school community were appalled by the Bible desecration and that he had expelled the first two boys and suspended the third.
In a letter to all staff on Monday, Mr Doutie wrote: "The school unconditionally apologises for this horrible act as conducted by some illiterate and ignorant students while under the care of EPIC teachers.
"We regard the desecration of the Bible in a very serious light and therefore we have taken serious action against the offenders.
“The Bible is an important book both for non-Muslims and Muslims and should be treated as a holy book by all religions.”
Mr Doutie said he did not believe that the boys realised the significance of their act.
But to ensure it did not happen again he had called in the assistant imam of the Newport Mosque, Oman Haouli, to tell the students that the Bible was a sacred book. “My lesson to them was to respect their neighbours and respect all religions,” Mr Haouli said yesterday.
But the desecration incident has shaken the nerves of the school’s teachers, about half of whom are non-Muslim.
A petition signed by 22 teachers expressed “anguish and dismay at the grave incident of the desecration of the Holy Bible”.
“This whole incident implies a deep hatred inculcated in the students towards the Christians/non-Muslim teachers,” it says.
The petition said there had been “previous incidents of students misbehaving towards non-Muslim teachers”.
It called on the school to “take steps to rectify this explosive situation” to ensure the safety of teachers.
Mr Doutie said the school had tried to contact the parents of the expelled boys to find out why they had desecrated the Bible. But he said the school had not received a response.
EPIC is an eight-year-old primary and secondary school in Melbourne’s north that caters mostly to the children of working-class immigrant Somali and Lebanese families.
The Bible desecration comes at a time of heightened tension among Australia’s 300,000-member Islamic community, many of whom believe their religion is being unfairly discriminated against because of terrorism fears.
Many Muslims remain angry about the public humiliation suffered by their spiritual leader, the mufti Taj Din al-Hilali, after the Sheik likened female rape victims to pieces of meat who brought the attacks on themselves.
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fatma
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comments from a muslim site about this incident:
That’s disgusting - it seems for us its like one step forward two steps back
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Thats disgraceful and I think these boys should be made to do some community service with Christian groups so they can learn some basic respect.
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Phillip, the school’s attempt to speak to the parents of the students is a proactive approach to solving the underlying ’ interfaith intolerance’. Having identified the issues the students are having, the next logical step is to discover why they hold these views and address them.
The safety of the teachers, in my opinion, isn’t really in jeopardy. The students are just a bunch of kids steeped in foolishness and misunderstandings who have not been given proper guidance. By letting the parents know of their children’s views and trying to address them, they can work with them to become more tolerant of others.
The way you make it seem as though these views are somehow inherent in the Islamic schooling system is unfair and completely ignores the work done in Muslim schools to build bridges with the wider Australian community .
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The article is not confusing at all. It’s quite well written and balanced, actually (bar the pathetic attempt at rousing taxpayers by pointing out the funding from the government - which this school would not be alone in receiving). Nothing in the article suggests the school’s attempts to contact the parents took place recently. The school seems to have responded in exactly the way we would expect by publicly denouncing the boys’ actions, taking measures against them, calling in a religious leader to demonstrate why the boys’ actions were wrong, and apologising to staff. Good on them.
It is absolutely of concern (to Muslims, anyway) that the Bible is desecrated. Respect for all of God’s books is one of the six core tennets of Islamic belief.
There are many schools in Victoria (heck, in Oz) where teachers’ safety is questionable. We have no clue as to whether the petition was the first step taken by the teachers, or the latest. That is merely conjecture.
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Theres one solution to such filthy behaviour and it is not in our fellow brothers and sisters in humanity, the christians turning turning the other cheek. Rather, it is our job to grab those little S#%&s and beat them senseless until it becomes something etched in their memories forever. After the beating comes an educational session.
Unfortunately kids have become so used to ‘shock and awe’ treatment because of media, and the social environments, nothing else will work with such a messed up mind.
This is disgusting, unacceptable and I would like all Christians to know there is not one sane Muslim on earth that would condone this practise.
Astaghfirallah! What a putrid mind to do such a thing.
…as far as i’m concerned, 12-14 year olds are not young immature children at all, and they probably knew full well what they were doing. what else can account for such overtly degradatory (is that a word?) behaviour?
astagfirullah. i hope Allah guides them.
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oh make no doubt about it, they will see it.
they just won’t report it.
so therefore, the wider Australian community will only hear about how some muslim kids urinated on the bible, and will assume that there was no action or condemnation of the boys actions by the local Islamic community.
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Not only do the children need educating but so do some muslim parents. Islamic education.
Islam refers to our brethren as people of the book. “the book” as understood in Islamic literature and scholars as being sacred and noble. Thus you don’t offend “the book” or the people who follow the book.
Sadly many muslim parents need to learn about Islam and it’s teachings.
Sitting at home and not getting out and about and contributing to community life is only going to give you a very poor understanding of the complex nature of Australian life, values and traditions, just like any other society in the world if you dont contribute.
This is then passed on to children.
My mother and father have always respected holy books because it is a religous obligation. In Lebanon, these things are unheard of and Christians and Muslims haven’t this disrespect for each other, unless it is because of a cult like following.
All this stuff seems to sprout up in strange places which begs the question of “WHAT ARE WE COLLECTIVELY AS HUMANS DOING WRONG” irrespective of religon.
This is really upsetting as I was raised with so many Christian friends and as much as they know this is not a practise that Islam condones, it still hurts.
comments from a muslim site about this incident:
That’s disgusting - it seems for us its like one step forward two steps back
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Thats disgraceful and I think these boys should be made to do some community service with Christian groups so they can learn some basic respect.
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Phillip, the school’s attempt to speak to the parents of the students is a proactive approach to solving the underlying ’ interfaith intolerance’. Having identified the issues the students are having, the next logical step is to discover why they hold these views and address them.
The safety of the teachers, in my opinion, isn’t really in jeopardy. The students are just a bunch of kids steeped in foolishness and misunderstandings who have not been given proper guidance. By letting the parents know of their children’s views and trying to address them, they can work with them to become more tolerant of others.
The way you make it seem as though these views are somehow inherent in the Islamic schooling system is unfair and completely ignores the work done in Muslim schools to build bridges with the wider Australian community .
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The article is not confusing at all. It’s quite well written and balanced, actually (bar the pathetic attempt at rousing taxpayers by pointing out the funding from the government - which this school would not be alone in receiving). Nothing in the article suggests the school’s attempts to contact the parents took place recently. The school seems to have responded in exactly the way we would expect by publicly denouncing the boys’ actions, taking measures against them, calling in a religious leader to demonstrate why the boys’ actions were wrong, and apologising to staff. Good on them.
It is absolutely of concern (to Muslims, anyway) that the Bible is desecrated. Respect for all of God’s books is one of the six core tennets of Islamic belief.
There are many schools in Victoria (heck, in Oz) where teachers’ safety is questionable. We have no clue as to whether the petition was the first step taken by the teachers, or the latest. That is merely conjecture.
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Theres one solution to such filthy behaviour and it is not in our fellow brothers and sisters in humanity, the christians turning turning the other cheek. Rather, it is our job to grab those little S#%&s and beat them senseless until it becomes something etched in their memories forever. After the beating comes an educational session.
Unfortunately kids have become so used to ‘shock and awe’ treatment because of media, and the social environments, nothing else will work with such a messed up mind.
This is disgusting, unacceptable and I would like all Christians to know there is not one sane Muslim on earth that would condone this practise.
Astaghfirallah! What a putrid mind to do such a thing.
…as far as i’m concerned, 12-14 year olds are not young immature children at all, and they probably knew full well what they were doing. what else can account for such overtly degradatory (is that a word?) behaviour?
astagfirullah. i hope Allah guides them.
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oh make no doubt about it, they will see it.
they just won’t report it.
so therefore, the wider Australian community will only hear about how some muslim kids urinated on the bible, and will assume that there was no action or condemnation of the boys actions by the local Islamic community.
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Not only do the children need educating but so do some muslim parents. Islamic education.
Islam refers to our brethren as people of the book. “the book” as understood in Islamic literature and scholars as being sacred and noble. Thus you don’t offend “the book” or the people who follow the book.
Sadly many muslim parents need to learn about Islam and it’s teachings.
Sitting at home and not getting out and about and contributing to community life is only going to give you a very poor understanding of the complex nature of Australian life, values and traditions, just like any other society in the world if you dont contribute.
This is then passed on to children.
My mother and father have always respected holy books because it is a religous obligation. In Lebanon, these things are unheard of and Christians and Muslims haven’t this disrespect for each other, unless it is because of a cult like following.
All this stuff seems to sprout up in strange places which begs the question of “WHAT ARE WE COLLECTIVELY AS HUMANS DOING WRONG” irrespective of religon.
This is really upsetting as I was raised with so many Christian friends and as much as they know this is not a practise that Islam condones, it still hurts.
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Palladio
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The teachers’s petition, not one year old, bravely points to something within the school as a cause for the act, something which the administrators would naturally deny.
I still wonder if the boys expelled are still expelled. I would want to know why suspension was right for one of them.
Muslim reaction included at least one lunatic response:“My mother and father have always respected holy books because it is a religous obligation. In Lebanon, these things are unheard of and Christians and Muslims haven’t this disrespect for each other, unless it is because of a cult like following.”
Tell that to the Christian minorities daily persecuted in Lebanon! The miracle is that there are any Christians left there.
I still wonder if the boys expelled are still expelled. I would want to know why suspension was right for one of them.
Muslim reaction included at least one lunatic response:“My mother and father have always respected holy books because it is a religous obligation. In Lebanon, these things are unheard of and Christians and Muslims haven’t this disrespect for each other, unless it is because of a cult like following.”
Tell that to the Christian minorities daily persecuted in Lebanon! The miracle is that there are any Christians left there.
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