What to do when you feel rebellion in your soul against the reality of your vocation

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Although most of my “hobbies” are homemaking or family-related, I do have mini getaways a few times per month - a weekly hour at Adoration, and a few evenings per month for book groups or just “drinks with the girls” (all other moms.) My husband gets the same. We also have regular date night, usually free or cheap with babysitting by relatives or friends (and I return the favor).

DH also took over bedtime routine so I have time to decompress in the evenings. Since he’s at work most of the day he likes having that time with the kids.

Just some practical things we do to avoid burnout.
 
Although most of my “hobbies” are homemaking or family-related, I do have mini getaways a few times per month - a weekly hour at Adoration, and a few evenings per month for book groups or just “drinks with the girls” (all other moms.) My husband gets the same. We also have regular date night, usually free or cheap with babysitting by relatives or friends (and I return the favor).

DH also took over bedtime routine so I have time to decompress in the evenings. Since he’s at work most of the day he likes having that time with the kids.

Just some practical things we do to avoid burnout.
That sounds like an awesome and very practical plan 👍 I’m getting ready to start planning a longer getaway with some other homeschooling mom friends of mine for hopefully in the next year (we’re think a cruise so that we cannot be reached by phone!)
 
I understand and know right where you are. I am there 99% of the time.

I love my family and want to serve them joyfully. I want my household to run smoothly and be well-organized. I want us to be able to squeeze every moment out of every day and enjoy every single second of it. I don’t want a life of regrets. But what I want does not equate to reality most of the time.

In reality, the more I keep striving for the “ideal” or this vision of how my life should look, the more pressure and stress I put on myself and I find myself shutting down and wanting to retreat from life by noon every day. Then I feel selfish for needing down time and then comes the guilt. The cycle repeats itself every day.

It’s okay to need “me time” frequently. Don’t feel bad about that. You aren’t being selfish for feeling that way. Remember, there is a reason that the airline attendant instructs passengers to put on their own breathing mask before helping someone else with theirs.
This ^^^^^^

Also OP, you seem to equate taking care of yourself with selfishness. That’s not necessarily the case. Often taking care of yourself (physically, mentally, socially, spiritually, or emotionally) is a great way to give your children the best that you can. How you get there is entirely up to you.

And as to whether or not you could be overwhelmed - you can absolutely love what you are doing in any vocation but still be overwhelmed.

If your days are so full that you can’t come up for air, you need to re-evaluate what you are doing and why. For me, this means making a list and categorizing each thing as:
  • something that has to be done and has to be done by me (ex. showering, nursing babies)
  • something that has to be done but can be done by someone else (ex. picking up toys, cooking)
  • something that should be done but we can go awhile without it (ex. deep cleaning the house)
  • something that doesn’t really need to be done but I’d like to do (ex. finish the baby books)
  • things that will get done when we hit the lottery (ex. remodel the kitchen)
The specifics will vary based on your priorities and your non-negotiables. Then I work my way down the list as best I can, outsourcing where possible (normally to my husband or the kids). If I’m feeling really overwhelmed, I’ll skip deep cleaning or whatever else can wait that week. When things calm down, I’ll re-incorporate those things and may even pull in something like finishing the baby books.
 
Not all families have had servants all throughout history. There is a great deal of people that have not had outside help at all, not even from family and friends. It is not new at all for that to happen whether people plan it as such or whether life dictates that for them. I see nothing wrong with having help or hiring things out, but in the long run for a family where that isn’t possible–either by choice or circumstance–continuously pointing out how much easier it makes things is pointless. Throughout history, the middle class and above have had their share of hired help or servants or slaves. Most people below that economic class did not have that possibility. Not everyone lives (or in the past lived) near family so yes, many did do “everything” on their own. They managed and they survived. I can tell you truthfully no one in my family on either side had any outside help for at least the last 4 generations–and that stretches back to the mid-1800’s in my family. On my dad’s side they did have family nearby. My mom’s had no one. It gets old hearing about how virtually everyone always had servants/etc. when in reality a good deal of people never had help–they were the help. Then they also had their own families to care for. In my husband’s family there has never been the help described here–no one would even dream it possible. And homeschooling has been done since the beginning of time, usually by the same people who couldn’t afford help because the cost of sending children to school was impossible to come up with, or they lived where there were no schools yet, or because the kids had to work along with their parents, or even because they were of a race/color/creed that was not allowed to attend the schools with the families that could afford the help. Yes, it is more than possible in our modern world of washing machines, dishwashers, electric ovens, computers and all the other things that cut our work load in half to successfully live without hiring out anything. If you can afford to, GREAT!!! But it’s not possible for most people now so it’s not helpful to continuously bring it up. People need to be thankful and say thanksgiving prayers daily to help stay focused on the positive. Kids grow do fast and time is fleeting. Enjoy the little things before they are all gone and the children are grown.
 
Thank you for your comment, underacloud. The truth is, I have certain knowledge that what I am doing is exactly what God wants me to do at this point in my life.
No you don’t. 😉

None of has the luxury of having “certain knowledge” of God’s will for us in our lives, at this moment or more generally. I suggest you should reconsider this attitude. Or at the very least submit it to the scrutiny of a spiritual advisor.

As others have posted - you need to re-evaluate. Both you and your husband. Trying to know the will of God in our lives is a constant process for Christians, one that we face afresh every day. Perhaps spending more time in prayer, by yourself, is the first simple step you could consider?
 
…I often forget the names of things and cannot give verbal directions under pressure…have a hard time asking for help because words fail me. Thankfully, my family is both generous and patient most of the time.

I do feel like my joy is being stolen from me by something, though. Is it possible to be burnt out when I would not rather be anywhere else on the planet? …

… I am mad at myself for seeking consolation or encouragement here now…

Which immediately makes me feel guilty because I am just so stinking grateful for all my little blessings!..
I understand what you mean. I stayed at home and I was often concerned that people would think I was doing the wrong thing if I let on how difficult it could be at times, since I had the education to go get a “mentally-stimulating” job. I didn’t want to do that and I didn’t think I ought to do that. My mother had eight children, and in our extended family that seemed like a medium-sized family to me. Some of our neighbors had sixteen children. These women were farm wives who didn’t just keep the children fed. They canned their own food and sewed and mended their own clothes and cooked from scratch and helped with the animals and sometimes had hired hands to feed, too. They worked hard.

Based on that background, I will assure you of this: Your problem is NOT that you do not work hard enough. The chances are that you do the exact opposite. You DO need rest. You DO NOT get a choice about that. You are forgetting things, you are overwhelmed, your verbal facility is slipping, and it is because you are overextending yourself. Your body WILL give out, if you keep this up, and when you have ruined your health you will not be able to get it back by just resting up.

I also know someone from a family of eleven who had four of her own and then adopted six more. (I think the adopted children were all relatives.) She said that the first rule at their house had to be this: serve others before yourself. Not just Mom, not just Dad: that is the rule for everybody as soon as you are old enough to serve at all. The problem is that this is more work at the beginning, not less, but it has to be done. I have a relative who had two sets of twins and then another child within the space of four years. She had to get help. They weren’t made of money, but she had to have it.

Does that mean you have to stop home-schooling? No. It does mean that you have to find some way to change something. Something has to give. If you don’t choose what that is going to be, your health is going to choose for you. You are also going to find that you have poured your whole life out for your children without ever finding the time to be “there” for them.

I can brainstorm some things for you, but these are your decisions to make for your situation. There is only one non-negotiable: Something HAS to give. You CANNOT power through this by force of fidelity alone. That works if you are being crucified, but it does not work when you have to be a teacher and a parent. This is a marathon you chose to run, and not finishing is not an option. You have GOT to start pacing yourself. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Here are some ideas.
  1. Take some time alone to rest your mind every day. Use it to put your feet up, go somewhere quiet, maybe to look out at your flower beds or a candle or what the sky is doing that day, and share a cold (or hot) drink with JUST ONE of your children. Everyone else gets to fend for themselves. I guarantee your children will start looking forward to the day when it is “their” time with you, too. I think this will give you enough of a feeling that you are “accomplishing” something that you may just stick with protecting it as a priority.
  2. It isn’t just that you are working hard. You have the symptoms not just of excessive work, but of excessive multi-tasking, where your mind spending too much of your day jumping from this to that to that to that and always listening for a problem or a fight or something you forgot to do. Look for ways to do some of your work in a more contemplative NON-MULTI-TASKING way. The whole idea of multi-tasking is a lie, because you aren’t doing many things at once. You are actually jumping back and forth a lot. The jumping back and forth puts too much wear and tear on your brain. Cut out as much of it as you possibly can.
  3. Do you keep holy the Lord’s Day? Do you arrange your life so you do as little servile work as humanly possible on Sunday? This used to be something that was very strictly observed. I don’t mean laying another layer of rules on yourself, but I do mean choosing what is the most restful on Sunday instead of the choice that is the “most” something else.
  4. Give yourself “someone with skin on” to talk to. It can be your husband, but it needs to be adult conversation, adult sentence structures, and not the same things that spin your brain in circles all day. Anything but those things that practically obsess all the rest of your waking hours. This also takes some time, but this is a NEED. How you find a way to do it, that is your business, but you need to give your spinning brain some time to buck and roll around while out of the harness.
I don’t want you to quit. I want you to succeed, and I want you to be able to have some way to appreciate the fruits of your success while you still have your children gathered around you. You don’t have to give your brain and your heart and your soul some better husbandry in the ways that I suggest, but you do need to improve your husbandry of yourself. You must. There is some question of what will happen when you can’t do this any more, but there is no question that the day is coming when you just won’t be able to do it another day. The question is whether you are going to choose the terms of the change or just let fate choose for you.
 
Stealing a quick moment during outside play time here…

I do not need to rethink my vocation. Why would anyone ever suggest that? Our vocations are given to us by God. Who are we to question that, or to tell others to question it?

Also, our souls are wounded by original sin. Even after baptism, concupiscence remains, which means that our wills are weak and we are sometimes drawn towards things that are sinful or selfish.

So nothing that I have said contradicts common human experience. If you have not experienced that, then thank God! What an awesome grace to never experience hints of rebellion in your soul at what God asks of you! But please don’t assume I am either insincere or am not doing what God wants of me.

Honestly, I probably need a spiritual director to answer a question like what I am asking here, but those are in rather short supply. However, it is still quite encouraging to know that some people have experienced just what I am dealing with and have persevered and have grown spiritually as a result of it.

If I sound desperate, it is for grace. Not for permission to abandon my post. I know that strategies for overcoming concupiscence exist, but besides begging for grace and continuing to do the right thing even if it is hard, I don’t know what the other strategies are.
 
There were women in the past that homeschooled reasonably successfully.

But they tended to have servants and lots of them.

Here’s some very funny stuff from one of my favorite homeschooling bloggers, the amazing Deputy Headmistress. She’s gently roasting Charlotte Mason:

"“I find no difficulty in securing obedience from my children,” says one [letter, I think]. ….”Suppose my little boy is playing in the drawing room, I tell him, ‘you may play as long as you’re good.’ He begins to be naughty. I ring the bell; the nurse comes down and the boy goes up. He forfeits the pleasure of my company. The plan is simplicity itself.”

The Deputy Headmistress says:

“I also once had the treat of visiting the Library of Congress and looking over a few of the older PR volumes. I had very little time and chose to focus on the letters sections with questions and answers from other parents. There were several questions about schedules, also many answers. The answers all talked about getting up really early, like 7:30, and spending a couple hours in the kitchen arranging meals with the cook and going over the tasks for the day with the other help.”

Wow–7:30! Amazing!

“Children also were sometimes put to bed as early as 6:00, and yes, if I put my children to be at 6 p.m. when they were small, I could have accomplished quite a bit around the house that otherwise got only a lick and a promise.”

“The mothers of the class most involved in the PNEU simply did not raise their own children. They spent lots of time thinking about it, writing papers about it, attending meetings about it, and they really cared about it, but over and over in these volumes I am seeing this faint thread about how in ‘today’s culture’ women have so many social obligations they need well-trained, intelligent nurses to support them in their work.”

"The nurses had the bulk of the child-rearing work for children from babyhood to about five. Mom was involved- but she came and went. Nurse was always there. Nurse also had almost no other job to do except care for the children. So of course Nurse could devote the constant time to habit training that was expected.

“I don’t mean that none of CM’s ideas are applicable. They are. They just have to be taken as goals to aspire to, not bludgeons to beat ourselves over the head with.”

"But I also think this is why CM takes discipline so lightly, as something easy for the alert and clever mother to address with nothing more than a look and a shake of the head. It’s always a simpler matter to get a child to mind somebody not its parent, or not as familiar to it than it is to get a child to be consistently obedient with Mom when Mom is the only one around. It’s not the same as having Nurse, Cook, Gardener, under nursemaid, parlourmaid, second housemaid and the tweeny all
there, and all bowing to Mom’s authority.

“I also note that a lot of the distractions offered to redirect the attention involve sending the child to other adults (take a message to cook, take this package to the gardener…) Somehow I just don’t see that working for me (The crock pot wants to see you…).”
I was in a rush and didn’t give the URL for that blog post. Here it is, along with another quote:

“Frankly, in the days of outhouses, chamber pots, an army of servants, nurseries on the top floor of the house, and children constantly being supervised by a well-trained nurse, I doubt very much that Parents’ Union mothers often found themselves dealing with such issues as a preschooler wiping a clumsy hand on the bathroom wall instead of washing it with soap and water, a child stuffing the toilet with matchbox cars, pulling dresser drawers out and dumping out all the clothes, gluing baby dolls to the living room rug, finger painting in Mommy’s make-up or lotions, and dumping out bottles of cooking oil on the kitchen floor while Mommy is cooking dinner. Mommy wasn’t cooking dinner. Cook was.”

thecommonroomblog.com/2007/07/my-quibbles-with-charlotte-mason.html
 
  1. Take some time alone to rest your mind every day. Use it to put your feet up, go somewhere quiet, maybe to look out at your flower beds or a candle or what the sky is doing that day, and share a cold (or hot) drink with JUST ONE of your children. Everyone else gets to fend for themselves. I guarantee your children will start looking forward to the day when it is “their” time with you, too. I think this will give you enough of a feeling that you are “accomplishing” something that you may just stick with protecting it as a priority.
Yes. We all need this. Jesus took time out constantly, to spend in prayer or simply to “relax” (perhaps not a word used in the bible exactly), and he made sure his disciples did so too.

Here is a quote worth relfecting on, attributed to St Francis de Sales: “Everyone of us needs half an hour of prayer each day, except when we are busy—then we need an hour.”
  1. Give yourself “someone with skin on” to talk to. It can be your husband, but it needs to be adult conversation, adult sentence structures, and not the same things that spin your brain in circles all day. Anything but those things that practically obsess all the rest of your waking hours. This also takes some time, but this is a NEED. How you find a way to do it, that is your business, but you need to give your spinning brain some time to buck and roll around while out of the harness.
Yes, adult conversation is very important. The ability to express our inner thoughts out load to another adult is helpful in processing those thoughts. Or it could just be the need for some adult conversation in general, which many stay at home parents struggle with, being constantly surrounded by little people who talk about very different things. A little time away from them and time with other adults can help recharge the batteries and face life’s day-to-day challenges afresh.
 
I do not need to rethink my vocation. Why would anyone ever suggest that? Our vocations are given to us by God. Who are we to question that, or to tell others to question it?
No one has.

Your vocation is as a wife and mother.

The rest are details to work through and should be open to consideration and debate.

I apologise if I misunderstood what you meant when you said “…I have certain knowledge that what I am doing is exactly what God wants me to do…” but it seemed that you were justifying every aspect of your family life as being exactly what God wants. You can be certain that your vocation as wife and mother is exactly what God wants, but the rest…
 
Not all families have had servants all throughout history. There is a great deal of people that have not had outside help at all, not even from family and friends. It is not new at all for that to happen whether people plan it as such or whether life dictates that for them. I see nothing wrong with having help or hiring things out, but in the long run for a family where that isn’t possible–either by choice or circumstance–continuously pointing out how much easier it makes things is pointless. Throughout history, the middle class and above have had their share of hired help or servants or slaves. Most people below that economic class did not have that possibility. Not everyone lives (or in the past lived) near family so yes, many did do “everything” on their own. They managed and they survived. I can tell you truthfully no one in my family on either side had any outside help for at least the last 4 generations–and that stretches back to the mid-1800’s in my family. On my dad’s side they did have family nearby. My mom’s had no one. It gets old hearing about how virtually everyone always had servants/etc. when in reality a good deal of people never had help–they were the help. Then they also had their own families to care for. In my husband’s family there has never been the help described here–no one would even dream it possible. And homeschooling has been done since the beginning of time, usually by the same people who couldn’t afford help because the cost of sending children to school was impossible to come up with, or they lived where there were no schools yet, or because the kids had to work along with their parents, or even because they were of a race/color/creed that was not allowed to attend the schools with the families that could afford the help. Yes, it is more than possible in our modern world of washing machines, dishwashers, electric ovens, computers and all the other things that cut our work load in half to successfully live without hiring out anything. If you can afford to, GREAT!!! But it’s not possible for most people now so it’s not helpful to continuously bring it up. People need to be thankful and say thanksgiving prayers daily to help stay focused on the positive. Kids grow do fast and time is fleeting. Enjoy the little things before they are all gone and the children are grown.
I don’t know that I agree. Ma Ingalls (Little House books) was an exception, not the rule. (And her kids had big responsibilities at an early age, and were “free-range” children a great deal of the time.)

Children used to just roam the streets. Other people helped keep an eye out because most people live close to other people. Dads worked closer to home (or at home.) Most people had zero formal education. If they did, chances are good family was wealthy enough for some kind of outside help.

I’m definitely not wealthy enough for outside help. But I do have nice ladies at church and other mothers, and neighbors. That I think has been a constant through most societies.

I think it is expecting too much of ourselves to think we can be super pioneer woman. We need community and family support.
 
No one has.

Your vocation is as a wife and mother.

The rest are details to work through and should be open to consideration and debate.

I apologise if I misunderstood what you meant when you said “…I have certain knowledge that what I am doing is exactly what God wants me to do…” but it seemed that you were justifying every aspect of your family life as being exactly what God wants. You can be certain that your vocation as wife and mother is exactly what God wants, but the rest…
Another poster, whose name I cannot recall, did suggest that I should rethink my vocation. The comment of mine you quoted was not addressed to you. I am sorry for the confusion.

As far as the certain knowledge, you are right that is not quite possible to state that truthfully. I am as certain as I can be about anything, that God wants me to be doing the things I am doing in my day. My rule of life has been created after much research and prayer, as well as correspondence with some people who could help me with it. But yes, I was exaggerating mostly to make a point. Homeschooling is not a point of discussion, no matter how many people disagree with me (here or in conversations).
 
Not all families have had servants all throughout history.

**Right. But likewise, they weren’t attempting to teach a modern K-12 curriculum at home.

Historically, poorer families would either a) teach a much more modest home curriculum (the three rs) and/or b) use their local schools.

It was only very well-off people with servants that could attempt their equivalent of a modern K-12 equivalent at home. Also, middle class and better families often used boarding schools, especially for boys.
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There is a great deal of people that have not had outside help at all, not even from family and friends. It is not new at all for that to happen whether people plan it as such or whether life dictates that for them.

**Yes, and it’s a very sad thing and also a relatively new thing. Women are, by nature, usually communal critters, and it often makes us sad not to have each other’s company. We need each other.

Contemporary American SAHMs have absolutely terrible stats for depression compared to women working outside the home. It’s a very sad thing that for a lot of women today, the only way to get normal adult female companionship is to put the kids in daycare and go to work. (There is the internet (love you guys!) but that has its limitations.)
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I see nothing wrong with having help or hiring things out, but in the long run for a family where that isn’t possible–either by choice or circumstance–continuously pointing out how much easier it makes things is pointless. Throughout history, the middle class and above have had their share of hired help or servants or slaves. Most people below that economic class did not have that possibility.

**But they did often have grandmas, mother-in-laws, mothers, aunties, nieces, cousins and sisters, not to mention neighbors, school friends, etc. When you have it, you don’t really notice it. Like, when my oldest kids were around 4 and 1, an old student of mine from Russia came to stay with us for half a year while getting medical treatment in the US. Now, of course she was medically somewhat frail, but at the time, it was very helpful. **

Not everyone lives (or in the past lived) near family so yes, many did do “everything” on their own. They managed and they survived.

**But it was a hardship for them. And nowadays we’re somehow not allowed to point out that it is a hardship. **

I can tell you truthfully no one in my family on either side had any outside help for at least the last 4 generations–and that stretches back to the mid-1800’s in my family. On my dad’s side they did have family nearby. My mom’s had no one. It gets old hearing about how virtually everyone always had servants/etc. when in reality a good deal of people never had help–they were the help.

I don’t think anybody said that. I do say that in the past, the average mother who effectively homeschooled the equivalent of today’s K-12 education for a large family did have help of some kind, and lots of it. That’s not "everybody."

Then they also had their own families to care for. In my husband’s family there has never been the help described here–no one would even dream it possible. And homeschooling has been done since the beginning of time, usually by the same people who couldn’t afford help because the cost of sending children to school was impossible to come up with, or they lived where there were no schools yet, or because the kids had to work along with their parents, or even because they were of a race/color/creed that was not allowed to attend the schools with the families that could afford the help.
Yes, and a lot of those children grew up with very substandard educations.
 
Another poster, whose name I cannot recall, did suggest that I should rethink my vocation. The comment of mine you quoted was not addressed to you. I am sorry for the confusion.
Oh, sorry, I missed that.
As far as the certain knowledge, you are right that is not quite possible to state that truthfully. I am as certain as I can be about anything, that God wants me to be doing the things I am doing in my day. My rule of life has been created after much research and prayer, as well as correspondence with some people who could help me with it. But yes, I was exaggerating mostly to make a point. Homeschooling is not a point of discussion, no matter how many people disagree with me (here or in conversations).
My comments about homeschooling were merely as an example, not because I am opposed per se to homeschooling, but simply because it is a large challenge to take on and thus if you are struggling it is an area that could be considered. But if that’s something you and your husband are definite on, then you may need to look at other daily challenges to address and lessen the load on you somewhat.

PS I do think other posters have offered good ideas about how to make homeschooling easier for you, especially via a more collaborative approach. Worth considering at least.
 
A forum member earlier mentioned a health work up. That is not actually a bad idea. My husband has been concerned that I might be anemic, in addition to overtired. He keeps making burgers and meaty pasta for dinners. 🙂
But yes, after about 12 years of pregnancy or breastfeeding or both, and a lot of lost sleep to boot, I might be chronically depleted at this point. I will follow up in this area as soon as I can.

Someone also mentioned inviolate prayer time. I do not have that per se. I do pray the Rosary every day, but that is usually with my husband and sometimes with the children joining us. I struggle to get up and read the Bible every morning. I am usually out of bed by 6, as soon as the baby goes back to her crib, and I go to sit on the sofa. But instead of reading my Bible and having my morning prayer time, I am more often dozing and praying for grace. But my toddler is up and running by 6:30, if not earlier, so…

I have tried to find time in my schedule for more, but at this stage of family life, I just cannot find it. I have written and rewritten my schedule and cannot find any time. I do occasionally go to an exercise class on an evening. I do honor the Sabbath by not doing housework or homeschooling on that day (except for cleaning the kitchen morning and evening). But just going to Mass takes three hours and is a full contact sport with my toddler. I love the Mass we go to, though, so it is worth it, but that is exhausting. :o

Honestly, thinking back through my posts, there is a theme running through this all, and that is my toddler. The same one that just splashed me repeatedly from her bath. :rolleyes:
 
Someone mentioned Ma Ingalls a bit upthread, and I wanted to throw in some information for perspective.

I just finished reading the newly published Laura Ingalls Wilder annotated autobiography. It was fascinating in a number of ways, one of many being the comparison between children then and those of today.

Just as one aspect, yes, she was taught at home a fair amount, as the family travelled quite a bit. However, children were expected to have rather higher levels of patience and home contribution back then.

As one example, she was a year younger than her sister Mary. By the time they were four and three, they were expected to do the dishes after meals, to help with meal prep by peeling potatoes and the like, to knit mittens, sew patchwork quilts, and so on. Of course, several of the things I just mentioned are no longer required to maintain a home, but one could substitute modern tasks–say, loading the dishwasher, scrubbing pans after a meal, spot-cleaning clothes. While some families have the three-year-olds helping a bit by clearing their place at the table, carrying their own laundry, etc, and that’s quite a good idea, I doubt that any of them are doing sous-chef work for dinner, or ensuring that still younger siblings will have appropriate clothing for winter. Since even very small children took on that level of work, there was, correspondingly, a bit less work for that over-worked mother, and that meant that she would have that much more time to sit down and teach another child to read. Nowadays? I suspect I’ll encourage helpfulness at as early an age as possible, but I can’t imagine handing a three-year-old a nice sharp knife and asking her to chop the vegetables for dinner while I go over phonics with her sister.
 
I don’t know that I agree. Ma Ingalls (Little House books) was an exception, not the rule. (And her kids had big responsibilities at an early age, and were “free-range” children a great deal of the time.)

Children used to just roam the streets. Other people helped keep an eye out because most people live close to other people. Dads worked closer to home (or at home.) Most people had zero formal education. If they did, chances are good family was wealthy enough for some kind of outside help.

I’m definitely not wealthy enough for outside help. But I do have nice ladies at church and other mothers, and neighbors. That I think has been a constant through most societies.

I think it is expecting too much of ourselves to think we can be super pioneer woman. We need community and family support.
It’s fine, you don’t need to agree and if you are able to receive outside help even from Church then by all means accept it if you like. It’s not wrong to have help but it also is not false that throughout history many people have not had it. Little House on the Prairie was not in my line of thought quite honestly. Not in my family history and I never watched the show growing up. I did read a couple of the books in school though. I was thinking more along the lines of military, indigenous and immigrant families–that’s my (and my husband’s) family line so that’s what I tend to think of as a point of reference. I see nothing wrong with stepping out and seeking help if that’s what you need, want and can get, but not everyone is in a position that makes that possible. Many people truly can’t and the reasons can be their own choosing or life circumstances. No matter the reason, they can make it successfully and be joyful along the way. Many of us do. Personally I see nothing wrong with children working hard. They also play hard and study hard as well. Each generation has had a better life than the one previous in our families, but it is completely up to the individual children to decide if they are willing to push higher themselves. Teaching them to work hard is the key to success–either through that manual labor or studying. As parents we give them the keys to a better life but they need to decide for themselves if they will use them.

I also believe it is 100% possible to know God’s Will for our lives and to align our will to His. When we do align our will to His Will, all things are possible. It isn’t always easy and yes at times it is tremendously difficult. Still we find joy in the journey if we allow ourselves to.
 
As far as the certain knowledge, you are right that is not quite possible to state that truthfully. I am as certain as I can be about anything, that God wants me to be doing the things I am doing in my day. My rule of life has been created after much research and prayer, as well as correspondence with some people who could help me with it. But yes, I was exaggerating mostly to make a point. Homeschooling is not a point of discussion, no matter how many people disagree with me (here or in conversations).
What actions on your part do you consider selfishness and rebellion? You keep saying that you are battling this so I’m curious as to what constitutes those vices in your own mind.

I can totally accept that homeschooling is a non-negotiable. I get that because it is for us, too. However, there are various methods of homeschooling out there (classical, Charlotte Mason, eclectic, traditional, unschooling, co-ops, tutorials, etc.) Some methods require more rigidity and structure than others. Depending on your personality and the personality and learning styles of your kids, are you using the method that is best for everyone? Is the method you are using require a lot of teacher preparation and/or does Mom have to be hands-on with every single subject? What particularly is causing the stress? Maybe it’s even a lack of structure 🤷 My husband constantly reminds me that kids thrive with structure (this is an area of weakness for me).

Or is it the daily housekeeping that stresses you out? Do you have a good routine for that? Do you meal plan? Do you freeze meals in advance?

How is your prayer life? Frankly, mine sucks and I need to devote more time to this.

I could ask many more questions, but for now, those are some biggies to think about. Honestly, I need to consider these questions myself.

As someone else mentioned, make a list of your priorities and what you want to accomplish each day.

And finally, here’s a link to a Catholic homeschooling mom’s webpage. She has written a book called Teaching From Rest" that I’ve heard many great things about it and plan to read it very soon 🙂 amongstlovelythings.com/rest/

I’m not meaning to pry into your life, but it seems like sharing some more specific details may give those of us trying to help a better picture of what’s going on.
 
Re the toddler: my MIL had eight kids, and homeschooled them all. Once older siblings were of an age where they could be asked to chase a baby or toddler and be responsible about it–say, around 7ish–they were each expected to take 20-30 minutes of toddler-chasing per day while Mom taught lessons, did housework, cooked, dealt with paperwork, or handled one of the myriad mom chores that are infinitely easier without a baby or toddler howling for attention or trying to chug the cleaning supplies. Could you schedule something like that with your older kids (I’m not sure what age range yours are), thus giving you a bit of space to pray/relax/read Scripture/even just take a 20-minute catnap?

ETA: One last thing, and again, I’m not sure what your kids’ age ranges are. Do you have kids in the late tweens/early teens stage yet? If so, can one of them take on dinner duties one night per week? When I was about nine or ten, I’d cook dinner every Thursday night. It might not have been anything fancy, but a pot of lentil stew and a pan of biscuits will leave everyone happy and satisfied without there being too much cleanup afterwards, and it would teach a valuable life skill, too.
 
Oh hey I just realized that I DO have prayer time everyday. At bedtime, I do about fifteen minutes or more of reading from Imitation of Christ or Way of Life (layman’s summary of the Summa) or other spiritual classic and ponder and pray before sleep. Although sometimes that means I read only one paragraph five times before I absorb it! :o

I think in the morning, I will at least sit with my Bible and prayer book open, even if I end up dozing until my toddler awakes. I will even lay it open in my morning devotion spot before I go to bed so I don’t have to think in the morning.
 
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