When did the crying room become the rumpus room?

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pnewton said:
This is not an urban legend. The stuff used to be over the counter. Now it is Benedryl that is used, by some.
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I used to post on a message board with some posters who did that. I think that’s terrible.
 
Well, I think it may be terrible if done on a regular basis. However, if one uses a medicine that is age appropriate, and only occasionally to insure rest when rest is needed for health, I do not see the issue. Sleep is very important for children, especially if they need to heal.

I wouldn’t think it a very good idea to use for Mass.
 
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I respectfully disagree. From the 70s until the 90s (perhaps the early naughts), there were a lot of ugly Catholic Churches built. I know of one where the neighbors literally petitioned the city to do something about it they hated it so much (the parish in question ended up planting trees around the whole building to satisfy the city).
 
Yeah, I can see that. I guess it’s your viewpoint. Valid point for many, probably.

I honestly don’t care if the church building is dug out of a cave. It contains Christ, so for me, it’s beautiful.
 
I haven’t caught up on the replies, but I had chimed in earlier about bringing a child with ADHD to Mass. Here’s the thing. Parents can’t win. Everyone disagrees with what Good Mommies and Good Daddies are supposed to do.

Crying, fussing, wiggling, fighting, squirming children in the sanctuary? Bad mommy! You’re disturbing others!

Going to the cry room? Bad mommy! You’re contributing to the noise and taking your child away from Mass.

Wait it out in the narthex? Bad mommy! People out there are trying to hear over the loud speakers!

Day chapel? Bad mommy! See above.

Child care during Mass? Bad Mommy! Children need to learn how to behave at Mass from an early age.

Any of the above? Bad mommy! You should do a better job raising them!

Let’s all chill out and take a deep breath. We’re the Roman Catholic Church, for heaven’s sake! You know, that pro-life church with big families??? (Forehead slap!) My Kids Don't Ruin Mass
 
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To the original poster: I vote for “c” - just keep the baby with you in church and take her out for a few minutes if she starts screaming.
 
I wasn’t a church-goer when my kids were really little, but my son at age 2 was very noisy about snoring. He almost always fell asleep on my lap and would snore loudly. 😂
 
CAROLOFTHEBELLS said:
Now, why in the world would a parent choose to take those to the church?
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Possibly because the parents want and need to go to Mass and there is no child care available?

Question for the thread. Do you think Jesus is more offended by the crying toddlers and the energetic tykes at Mass, or the million or so who will never come because they were terminated before birth?
Just wondering.
 
I did that once as a child at a weekday Mass. I was about 4. The priest heard me and added me to the General Intercessions. “And for that little one over there who is snoring.” My mom was embarrassed.
 
I love it when priests welcome children with good humor. My little guy is an aspiring police officer. When we were visiting my parents in another town and attended their parish, the priest said before Mass, "I see we have an officer with handcuffs in the front row. That should keep me in line today . . . "
 
FiveLinden said:
You could try opiates. I believe they were widely used in the form of laudanum during the 19th century to keep children from being children.
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“Mother’s Helper” is the product you’re thinking of. It was for working mothers, letting the child sleep all day so she could go to work. OK, so it also turned the kid into a junkie . . . one of the products that led to the creation fo the FDA.

haw
 
What a wonderful video! It should be shown at every parish. So loving. It’s not just about how to teach a child to behave in Mass, but how to bring up a child in the faith beginning at a young age. Thanks for sharing.
 
joey,

That is a terrible thing to say to me. I would appreciate an apology. Please do not take my words and turn them into something else and please do not accuse me of something ugly.
 
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TC3033,

Yes, those where my thoughts. They are mine and not yours. I do not have to have the same thoughts as you, believe it or not. Your judgement of my thoughts is not required or desired. In the future please refrain from exclaiming Wow to my thoughts. I don’t like it. I am tired of seeing responses like this towards me or anyone else in any forums and social media and am standing up to them from now on!
 
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joeybaggz said:
Do you think Jesus is more offended by the crying toddlers and the energetic tykes at Mass,
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Of course not, but Jesus did ask that we put the needs of others ahead of our own, be you the parent with the child, or the adult next to the parent with the child. And of course the whole abortion reference was simply a false dichotomy. It does not enter in any way into this issue.
 
CAROLOFTHEBELLS said:
I want to say, I never understood why parents bring toys to Mass other than a stuffed animal or book. It’s not part of play time wherever you are sitting. I once spent some time at a mass distracted by small cars being driven over the pew in front of me by two young boys. I eventually was able to move. Now, why in the world would a parent choose to take those to the church?
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You were probably somewhere in Oregon sitting behind us. We use toy cars - with great success, I might add - to keep our little ones quiet and occupied so that grown-ups like you can do what you’re supposed to do - focus on the Mass and Eucharist. You’re welcome. 😉

Mass is full of distractions - coughs, sneezes, vibrating electronics, jingling keys, stinky armpits, gas-passing parishioners, whale-song hearing aids, nursing babies, sirens whirring by outside, crows landing and pooping on the skylight . . . If you feel distracted by tiny hands moving dye-cast toy cars back and forth, I’m sorry to inform you that you’ve got greater problems than Hot Wheels.
 
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The problem is if they decide to start bashing them against the pews.
 
Fortunately, my boys don’t bash their cars against the pew. 🙂

Have you read this? http://www.catholicsistas.com/2018/03/my-kid-drinks-juice-in-mass/

Indulge me for one moment. What if that boy you’re seeing is on the autism spectrum and obsessed with cars? He’ll be a lot louder without the cars than with them. The point of that article is to tread super carefully before passing judgment on others at Mass.

Or maybe he’s neurotypical and has no reason or excuse to bash cars, just horrible parents. You can A) confront the boy B) confront the parents C) ignore it and seethe quietly for days, weeks, or years D) move seats E) accept that Mass is to be celebrated in community, with all of the imperfections that community brings, and you’re there to seek joy in the Eucharist regardless.
 
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I myself have a minor disability that affects my ability to filter out background noise and I’m only human so I do sometimes get frustrated when I’m at a mass and can’t follow what the priest is saying. I believe this can also happen with hearing aids.

I agree it’s best to give the benefit of the doubt but it can be really awkward when you have a bunch of people with additional needs that don’t go together well.

I wonder if instead of a cry room it could be used for a quiet room for those of us who struggle with background noise or maybe offer written copies of the homily so we don’t miss out on that part.
 
Good, stand up for them. That’s one of the great things about forums and social media.

Just like I stood up for mine and was a bit taken back that the first place someone would go when another person took issue to a young child acting up in public is “whelp, that must be because they’re not Catholic” as if we (non-Catholics) must ban young children from our services…or something. And like I said, the single most person that I know that gets the most annoyed by young children (he has literally yelled at us and other family member to shut our kids up) is Catholic. I found the conclusion strange…¯_(ツ)_/¯.
 
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