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Carlan
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I know that the doctrine of OSAS held by some Protestants is very comforting to some, however, believe also that the sin of presumption is a very powerful tool of the evil one!:yup::bigyikes:God help us all. Carlan
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CMatt25
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How do you know? I’m not sure you even know who the Church calls Catholic.
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CMatt25
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That’s what I’ve been saying. But then I am told believing in Jesus is not enough.
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tweetymom
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Think not. It is not diffcult to confirm what is truth.you are simply confirming what he wants to hear from you.
Why is it so difficult for you to confirm a fellow Catholic for defending the faith?, God bless and peace to you, Carlan
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tweetymom
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Not confusing to me.
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CMatt25
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Rinnie, it’s not me who is saying.Matt please forgive my ignorance here but I am not picking up what you are laying down here or something
Are you saying that the Protestant Church is equal with the CC without having all of the Sacraments?
Scripture says that the CC has all truth. Unless you can prove to me that the CC is not the CHurch started by Peter and the Apostles I don’t know where you are comming from.
I mean history show how the Protestant CHurch broke off from the CC. Remember? Luther???
Jn 14:6 **Jesus saith **to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life.
Jn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him, may not perish; but may have life everlasting.
Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.
And the Protestants believeth.
And how do you really know Christ did not use Luther to reform His Church so as the gates did not end up prevailing? You believe he did not. But there’s a difference between believing and knowing for certain.
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tweetymom
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We don’t know. But an interesting thought. Thank you Matt
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CMatt25
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But we do know what Jesus saith about He being the truth and believeth in Him for everlasting life, tweety. I can not fathom the difficulty, not you, but some people make of this.
God bless and peace.
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Loboto-Me
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Matt 7:21-24That’s what I’ve been saying. But then I am told believing in Jesus is not enough.
21 "Not everyone who says to Me,‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
James 2:19 says, “You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
It takes believing AND receiving : good works, confession, licit sacraments, Tradition
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rinnie
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But tweety WHO said that scripture is only for the CC? Thats where I keep loosing you? DId someone tell you that Jesus only say that all scripture is for Catholics only
That’s where I am not understanding why you would say that? Did someone say that Scripture was not for everyone? And if they did I agree with you that the word of God is for everyone, But I missed someone here saying that it wasn’t. Could you point me to who said it?
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rinnie
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Because Matt its easy. Authority. Where did Luther get authority to divide the Church of God.
And tell me this, why is it that the CC all of them have the same teaching and are not divided in their faith, And why are protestant Church’s all divided in faith?
All Catholic Church’s in cmmunion with Rome have the exact same teachings!
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tweetymom
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There are a lot here who present the scripture as only understood by the CC. And that it means the CC.But tweety WHO said that scripture is only for the CC? Thats where I keep loosing you? DId someone tell you that Jesus only say that all scripture is for Catholics only
That’s where I am not understanding why you would say that? Did someone say that Scripture was not for everyone? And if they did I agree with you that the word of God is for everyone, But I missed someone here saying that it wasn’t. Could you point me to who said it?
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rinnie
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Matt for goodness sakes, where in the SS or OT does it say if you believe in Jesus Christ that is enough. Lord have Mercy, who believed in Jesus more than the devil!
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rinnie
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Tweets, I don’t understand what you are saying. Could you say it another way
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tweetymom
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Well whenever scripture is presented people say this is for the CC. Only can be interperted by those in authority which is the CC. Not so.Tweets, I don’t understand what you are saying. Could you say it another way
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Loboto-Me
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I found this article by Eric Sammons that might shed light on understand in how the Church must interpret the Bible. This sums up how scripture is dealt with. This is not an article on authority, but on what the process is for the interpretation and why it’s naive to interpret it alone, without the complete elements needed to understand scripture.
christendom-awake.org/pages/misc/eric-scripture.htm
christendom-awake.org/pages/misc/eric-scripture.htm
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wisdomseeker
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It would be really nice if you told us what does it mean to you to believe in Jesus only. what is it that you believe about Jesus? does that mean all you have to believe is the Name?That’s what I’ve been saying. But then I am told believing in Jesus is not enough.
can you tell us?
** “All enemies of Rome are friends” **
(quoted by Hans Urs von Balthasar, The Office of Peter and the Structure of the Church [Ignatius Press, 1986], 80-81).
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CMatt25
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Of course faith without works is dead.
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CMatt25
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Carlan, guess I’m not Protestant enough
but what is OSAS?
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CMatt25
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I guess if he did get authority to reform the Church, then from God. Rinnie, no Christian is divided in faith in Christ.- Status