You would have to be a Catholic and care for me to tell you all that. Not to offend, but we have a hard time persuading other Catholics, let alone an Agnostic, former Protestant.
But do they follow the instructions of the apostles? NO because a priest must say the words and he must have the authority from the apostles who were commissioned by Jesus. It doesn’t matter if the right word were said, it is not as some accuse of being magic. You have to have the authority behind it as well. The unbroken line from the Apostles.
No one misunderstood. This IS cannot be misunderstood. We are in full Communion with Jesus as He gives us his Body and Blood just as the Apostles received it. No one misunderstood as Jesus would have corrected but He let them walk away because He knew they understood perfectly but it was too hard of saying for them.
Tiny or more, thank you and of course I agree. One of the things I find very sad about the Church today is this drive to take her back to the “purer” pre-Vat 2 days and hense smaller. I cringed the first time I heard of Benedict saying he wanted a “purer” Church even if smaller. Christ wants a smaller Church? I don’t think so. I honestly don’t think some understand the implications of their efforts. I think perhaps they mean well but it can have the opposite effect of what they desire if their desire is to keep people further within. I only pray they could see this and hopefully before it is too late, they will. I’m not necessarily speaking about myself here. I’m not saying they might not drive me away at some pt. But I pretty much don’t worry so much about what others might think. I have enough to making sure I am striving to live according to God’s will as I understand it to be. I’m just speaking of people in general being pushed further away. God bless you and peace.
Elvis you say no then yes then no. Either you believe they are part of the body of Christ or not or perhaps you haven’t decided yet.Larkin, I guess thanks for clearing up for me what Elvis meant. Ironic it took an agnostic
to do it but I appreciate it.Really? Wow and you reach your opinion how? I get the impression Tweety has a strong desire to love and learn from the Lord.Don’t be to hard on Tweety. I doubt if she could even tell you what an indulgence is. .She is probably confusing a stipend for Mass for an indulgence. She is quite unfamiliar with anything out of the scope of her limited bible study and she has no desire to learn anything new.
I base my opinion on her postings here. I don’t know her other than what she post. She once had as her religious affiliation as Catholic. She says she teaches. Yet she displays no writings that would demonstrate this. Once she chastised the writer for using too big of a word and she had to look it up for the meaning. That is an unwillingness to learn. In discussing different passages, she just repeats what she has learned in her bible study without expanding with ideas presented here. Before you ask No I don’t think she has to accept what is said but she doesn’t present any thought process of why. She will make snippets of her belief without explanation. I don’t see what you see. I see her attacking Catholics and the Church whenever she can. I have never seen her write one positive thing about either. The post that prompted this post and yours is not true. She is either confused or lying. I prefer to believe she was confused and No I don’t believe she cares to know the truth.
Not every “is” in the Bible is literal. Nor is this one. Even the RCC teaches that this change is in the “essence” of the host, which takes on the “essence” of Christ and God. So, what we have, is Jesus breaking bread and offering Seder wine and the RCC interprets this with a literal abstraction.
I suggest, perhaps, a little more charity in your response to fellow Christians, especially simply for their ecumenism. It seems hardly worth a criticism. The sentence I bolded of yours, in particular, comes from peevish hyperbole rather than from any possible real assessment of what she does “whenever she can.”
I am an English teacher; I am constantly straightening the meaning of discourse! I can’t seem to help it…Larkin, I guess thanks for clearing up for me what Elvis meant. Ironic it took an agnostic
Look pal, Christ is the catholic church and his bride!
All who believe in christ already have real truth. But the fullness of truth can only be found in the church he founded! The catholic church is the only i repeat only church that has the authority to interpret scripture period!!! 
Christ gave his authority to the church to lead all into the truth! It seems authority is a BIG problem for you. If you can not accept the fullness of truth thats your problem not mine! Many things have been explained to you and yet all you have are smart remarks. Does the word catholic bother you that much? Is it because of the word catholic you can not accept the truth??? What is your problem? O wait it’s AUTHORITY!!! Your words would have more credibility if you had chastised her as well. Look at her post. It wasn’t peevishness and it wasn’t hyperbole. In this thread alone, she demonstrated her attacks. Ecumenism? I thought that was between different faiths. She is suppose to be of the same faith.
You ignore other scripture in order to come to this conclusion. His disciples left Him. If they misunderstood He would have corrected it but He didn’t. He couldn’t correct a misunderstanding because there was none.
(pssst… do I remind you of somebody?)Adrift!
Thank you for making me Laugh.Yes, she will learn from Jesus only. She does not have any desire to learn anything from or about the Catholic faith.
I’m not asking. Just pondering myself what Jesus might have meant by lukewarm. A believer who loves Jesus but who may not agree with all the CC teaches? Someone who gives the outward appearance of being a good Christian, perhaps even a good Catholic, but whose heart is solely of this world? Someone who professes only in word but not in deed?
Hi Therese, I thank you for your caring. But I’m just sitting here wondering how is it in charity to call someone ignorant? They may or may not be ignorant. Perhaps someone understands but may disagree with something. That may make them not 100% perfect in the eyes of the CC. But it doesn’t necessarily make them ignorant nor even non Catholic for that matter. (Not that I want to open that whole thing again because I don’t).