Why? I find it hard to see how denying Original Sin and rejecting the nativity accounts of the Gospels make someone a “genius.” I’ve read many scathing remarks about ‘The New Jerome Biblical Commentary’, and I think I know where BayCityRickL is coming from. But I wonder where you’re coming from?
Say JKirkLVNV, I respect your opinions even when we don’t agree. I am nodding along with the first three but wondered at the caution against Richard Rohr. I haven’t read too much of his work so I am not an expert on his philosophy. But nothing I read stood out as being particularly heretical. One thing I did appreciate was his statement that evil exists. I think some loosey/lefty/liberals think there is no such thing. So I did respect his acknowledgement of Satan’s existence. On social issues I think he’s a bit simplistic and certainly very leftist so I disagree on that score. Just wasn’t sure if you meant he was not orthodox religiously…would like anyone’s opinion on Rohr. Thanks.
Lisa: Thanks for your kind words.Say JKirkLVNV, I respect your opinions even when we don’t agree. I am nodding along with the first three but wondered at the caution against Richard Rohr. I haven’t read too much of his work so I am not an expert on his philosophy. But nothing I read stood out as being particularly heretical. One thing I did appreciate was his statement that evil exists. I think some loosey/lefty/liberals think there is no such thing. So I did respect his acknowledgement of Satan’s existence. On social issues I think he’s a bit simplistic and certainly very leftist so I disagree on that score. Just wasn’t sure if you meant he was not orthodox religiously…would like anyone’s opinion on Rohr. Thanks.
No one need say more about Chittester, Greeley or McBrien
Lisa N
i agree - but i’d like to point out that the movie based on the joshua books took a much more catholic friendly position - the ending is very catholic affirming…
Thanks very much for the information. As I said, I don’t know too much about him. There is an organization in Oregon called the Sacred Art of Living Center operated by an expriest who’s married to an exnun. They do seem to work with Richard Rohr and sell his videos on their website. The expriest Richard Groves, gave a presentation on the Enneagram at a local Episcopal church a few years ago and made some references to Rohr’s work in his workshop and they hosted him for weekend seminar last fall. They seem to be closely affiliated.
Now you’ve hit on one of my pet peeves, over which I regularly mount my soapbox. We have, in this society, so overly psychologized everything that no one has to take personal responsibility for any action. It’s all “well, my father was emotionally distant, so it’s natural that I should react thusly,” or “of course, I’m angry! You would be, too, if you’d had my mother!” Every year, as a teacher, I have to take part in various exercises that will identify me as a “blue” (empathetic, warm, and caring), an “orange” (highly organized), a “yellow” (very logical) or a “green” (a bridge builder, a team player). The “Enemagram” is kind of like that. There are other systems too, some built things other than colors, like animals and so forth. I just have no time for it. Our problem is sin, not psychosis, though I’m certainly willing to acknowlege that sin leads to psychosis and that psychosis may well diminish culpability as far as sin goes, but the problem is still sin, the remedy is only Christ. It’s not the Church’s job to make us “feel” better about ourselves, so it’s not Father Rohr’s job, either. His job is to call us beyond ourselves, to point us toward the salvation of our souls. Sorry! Dismounting soapbox. Deep breaths.
Maybe from actually reading Brown instead of “scathing remarks” about him. No i don’t agree with every single thing he says. but yes he is way better than most biblical scholarship out there.
romano said:
First, everyone should read Dei Verbum so they understand how important Brown’s writings are. Fr. Brown and several related authors should then be read by everyone with an interest in scriptural interpretation.
Actually, Brown, a member of the pontifical biblical commission, was one of the leaders in taking us to where the papal document Dei Verbum is pointing us.
And Fr. John Meier’ s Jesus: A Marginal Jew and Ralph’s And God said What?
Thanks to Dei Verbum, these opinions are the church’s direction. Like everything else however, they aren’t the final answer.
Unless you are a regular reader of these forums. There is a rather lengthy and entertaining thread just on him.
Amen - what a refreshingly beautiful concept!
I agree - but the order of reading does matter. Reading Brown and others like him should be required.
Can I smack my husband when he plays with his food? How much food is a 7 mo old eating? How do you play w/ babyfood in a jar? —KCT
Beautiful! - Just make sure you don’t mention any knowledge or ideas from the past 500 years…
Please read section 1.4 of the 2003 Vatican document Jesus Christ, the Bearer of the Water of Life - A Christian Reflection on the New Age. It clearly expains why the Enneagram is opposed to Catholic teaching:
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Hey Karen!
DITTO. Stay away from EZZO. His products are banned in the diocese of Arlington, VA. At least i think it is that one. Here is an article of why his work is based on calvinism
That’s exactly what I think about romance books! I keep my bookshelves full with nice historical fiction, Catholic books (Bud McFarlane, Jr. is awesome), prayer books, old books from college and high school…