White House shines rainbow colors to hail same-sex marriage ruling

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Obama: F You to the half of Americans who think marriage is between a man and woman and F myself and the majority of people who 15 years ago.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
Well, I don’t think we could have a more bone-chilling example in front of us of the importance of electing a Republican in terms of the appointing judges to the Supreme Court. 🙂 But then who knows, weren’t Roberts and Kennedy Republican appointees? (not sure about Kennedy)
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Yes, I have learned a lesson there.

But again, with politicians you never know the true colors, and the Supreme Court is a political position. Even though ideally and perhaps naively I once viewed it as not.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
Well, I don’t think we could have a more bone-chilling example in front of us of the importance of electing a Republican in terms of the appointing judges to the Supreme Court. 🙂 But then who knows, weren’t Roberts and Kennedy Republican appointees? (not sure about Kennedy)
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Chief Justice Roberts was nominated by a republican, Bush W, and he voted against this ruling.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Roberts was. he has been a disappointment.
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But he voted against this ruling. I may have wished he’d ruled against Obamacare, but I was proud of how he voted here; a much more critical issue in my view.
 
10gr8kids said:
But he voted against this ruling. I may have wished he’d ruled against Obamacare, but I was proud of how he voted here; a more important issue in my view.
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It’s close from my view of threads. But yes I find Catholics here rank as their top 3 issues that matter most, abortion, SSM and Obama. But with the 2016 elections approaching, Hillary might catch up with Obama. But because of this is actually a reason I don’t practice the faith. My worldview goes much beyond that which I find Catholics, at least on the subforum of this site, a Catholic answers site, discussing the most today.
 
10gr8kids said:
But he voted against this ruling. I may have wished he’d ruled against Obamacare, but I was proud of how he voted here; a more important issue in my view.
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Right, I was thinking of the Obamacare decision with reference to Roberts. (My only problem with Obamacare is how it constricts religious businesses/persons. I do think that kind of healthcare accords with Catholic teaching; the bishops have said that.)
 
Sy_Noe said:
It’s close from my view of threads. But yes I find Catholics here rank as their top 3 issues that matter most, abortion, SSM and Obama.
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Close, abortion is definitely a priority for me, and SSM at this time comes in 2nd. Obama is not an issue for me, electing a president with good morals is. Mainly because I believe history tends to repeat itself, and I hate to think of the trials my children will go through when this country has defeated itself. 😦
 
10gr8kids said:
But he voted against this ruling. I may have wished he’d ruled against Obamacare, but I was proud of how he voted here; a much more critical issue in my view.
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yes I was happy with his ruling this time, but it is his two rulings dealing with Obamacare he let us down.
 
DrTaffy said:
Or if taxpayers’ money were spent on Christmas displays, crucifixes, biblical quotes or images in public buildings, or events at which explicit Christian prayers were said?

Golden rule, baby. If you mean this, take it all the way and I might even support you. If it only applies to others, but not to you, not so much.
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EXACTLY!!!

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Sy_Noe said:
Yes and the marriage equality movement has not been about being anti religion either. Many who are in favor of marriage being inclusive of SS couples believe religion and faith are good too for society and the country. They in fact are in their faith communities across this great nation of ours. Some are Unitarian Universalists. Meltzerboy would be better able to speak for the branches of Judaism than I, but to my knowledge some may be in the Jewish faith.

And most certainly they are found in Christian faith communities. They are believers, including straight and gay, within to name a few places, the United Church of Christ, the Episcopal Church, Presbyterian USA, and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America. And before anyone says you can’t be Christian and favor SSM, let me remind you that your own church and faith actually teaches that the above mentioned Christian faiths are indeed Christian.
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those faith communities used to object to same sex unions and homosexual acts. The acceptance is a new thing for them.
 
John_Savage said:
Obama: F You to the half of Americans who think marriage is between a man and woman and F myself and the majority of people who 15 years ago.
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IMO, it is a continuation of the uncompromising rivalry between a democrat in the executive branch and republican legislative branch. The big f aimed at the legislative branch, which should concern anyone, left or right, who is paying attention. We have three branches for a reason, and that reason is not personal vendetta or victory. The three branches serve the people, and do not exist to each serve itself. Flying what is essentially a victory flag on the building that represents the executive branch, IMO, shows disrespect for the legislative branch.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
Well, I don’t think we could have a more bone-chilling example in front of us of the importance of electing a Republican in terms of the appointing judges to the Supreme Court. 🙂 But then who knows, weren’t Roberts and Kennedy Republican appointees? (not sure about Kennedy)
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Roberts was appointed by George W. Bush. Roberts voted against SSM.

Kennedy was appointed by Ronald Reagan and was the one Republican appointment which crossed the line and voted pro SSM.

Kennedy was also the 2nd of two Catholics.
 
phil19034 said:
those faith communities used to object to same sex unions and homosexual acts. The acceptance is a new thing for them.
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And I believe every single one of these denominations underwent a long, protracted internal schism of sorts to get to this “acceptance.” Percentages of up to 30% leaving. Not everyone who calls himself an Anglican or a Lutheran or a Presbyterian, etc., etc. concurs with this development; to assume that is to profoundly misunderstand what happened here.
 
RebeccaJ said:
IMO, it is a continuation of the uncompromising rivalry between a democrat in the executive branch and republican legislative branch. The big f aimed at the legislative branch, which should concern anyone, left or right, who is paying attention. We have three branches for a reason, and that reason is not personal vendetta or victory. The three branches serve the people, and do not exist to each serve itself. Flying what is essentially a victory flag on the building that represents the executive branch, IMO, shows disrespect for the legislative branch.
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👍👍👍 Excellent post.
 
phil19034 said:
those faith communities used to object to same sex unions and homosexual acts. The acceptance is a new thing for them.
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Yes as I’ve said their understanding of God has evolved. Although I know a lot of folks here don’t like that word. 🙂
 
FollowChrist34 said:
And I believe every single one of these denominations underwent a long, protracted internal schism of sorts to get to this “acceptance.” Percentages of up to 30% leaving. Not everyone who calls himself an Anglican or a Lutheran or a Presbyterian, etc., etc. concurs with this development; to assume that is to profoundly misunderstand what happened here.
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Why are Catholics so quick to point out strife or problems within other faith communities when their own church has it’s own problems as well with for instance so many Baptized Catholics not attending Mass or dissenting on contraception or what have you?
 
Sy_Noe said:
Why are Catholics so quick to point out strife or problems within other faith communities when their own church has it’s own problems as well with for instance so many Baptized Catholics not attending Mass or dissenting on contraception or what have you?
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I am not denying that Catholics have problems - where did I do that? Besides I am not pointing this out in mockery. I feel very sorry and very deeply for those faithful who watched their Churches “evolve” and were powerless to save them.
 
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