White nationalism is incompatible with Catholicism

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I am not from America, so this is only based on what I see online and in the media, from an outsider perspective it seems like USA culture has over the last couple of years quickly disintegrated into a false black vs white narrative, with a lot of the USA population no longer being able to see race nuances?

All this unbalanced discussion about “white privilege”, appropriation, racial tensions etc will not lead to racial harmony but rather more racial divides.

US society, from what I see, has undergone a lot of changes recently. And the rest of the world takes the cue from America, to various degrees.

For example:
For so long it was “shoved down our throats” that all us women should aspire to have a body like a Victoria Secret model. Now, trend has reversed, and we are being conditioned that we should all aspire to have a body that was traditionally associated with black women (there are sometimes women non-black who have this type too both in my culture and in some middle eastern women, & of course Kardashians, but most associated with black women).

We use to get our bums slimmed at the salon, now we are getting them injected with fat (not me, but you get the picture).
Bum fat transfers are one of the fastest growing procedures where I live.
And then look at the mainstream popularity of things like Wap.
There are other examples which show that US culture has shifted more to black perception of beauty, art, etc.

Which is good because things should be in the middle, with both black and white Americans feeling beautiful and valued.
(at the same time do we have to see everyone’s naked bums in our faces??)

But I am wondering if this change in US society has/will lead to rise of white nationalism as a rebound effect- which is very concerning.

I could see this happening if some “white people” feel they are without a strong identity, or if they perceive (rightly or wrongly), that instead of racial equality, that the pendulum has swung too far and like the discrimination is now on them.

Perhaps the Dailyfail is not where I should go to for news 🙂 but I have even read instances where non-black women in the US pretended to be black for what they perceived as professional or social benefits!

 
To be fair though, it is not just Americans on the CAF. Americans are taught a certain way and have their social climate, but other ethnicities also have their own. If I be honest, if I brought a black man to my parents home and said we were getting married, I dare not think of my fathers reaction.
The reality is that a lot of people of their generation share those views. It is unfortunate, but Americans see different races everyday, but in some slavic European countries to see a black person is like “some rarity”.
So they grown up with those mindsets and it can be hard to change elders views. Things are changing though because more European younger people are dating inter-race, but there will always be some elders that will view it as a “scandal” and I doubt this will change.
 
phil3 said:
Yep, you post one and only one name and then paint the whole of CAF as white nationalist. Youre just stirring the pot trying to cause trouble.
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He didn’t say “the whole of CAF was white nationalist.” You’re either not reading with any attention or you’re deliberately mischaracterizing what he said.
 
. . . . I just wanted to make this thread to reiterate that white nationalism and racism are incompatible with Catholicism.

To those who have engaged in the above, reconsider your positions. Pray for wisdom. And remember: Jesus is a Jew with dark skin, and Holy Mary Mother of God is a Jew with dark skin. You worship someone with dark skin and honor His Mother with dark skin. Jesus looked like a modern Palestinian.

God bless.
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He didn’t say “the whole of CAF was white nationalist.” You’re either not reading with any attention or you’re deliberately mischaracterizing what he said.
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He said “those” when he should have said “one” as in one person.
 
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He said “those” when he should have said “one” as in one person.
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But it’s not one person. That poster was just the most recent example of right-wing political extremism. It’s become a recurrent problem. He doesn’t need to provide some kind of exhaustive list to make a point about the general tone of the place.
 
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He said “those” when he should have said “one” as in one person.
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Aside from the fact that you are splitting hairs, there are multiple posters on CAF who over the last year or so have expressed racist or white nationalist views from time to time. They may not be as obvious or as rude as Anonkun, and they aren’t all from USA, but there is a group of them. I am aware of posters who have left the forum temporarily or permanently because they were put off by seeing racist views here.

And to be clear, I am NOT talking about posters who are simply against BLM (because it’s Marxist, anti-family, anti-Catholic, pro-gay or whatever) or who defend the police in USA. I’m generally pro-police myself. I’m talking about statements regarding racial IQ, interracial marriage, race “purity”, characterizing all members of a particular race as deficient in some way, and so forth.

If the shoe doesn’t fit you, then don’t wear it, but there’s definitely more than one person on this forum who fits that shoe.

The continuing undercurrent of racism on CAF and their seeming inability to stop it is one of the things that’s made me persistently uncomfortable about this forum for a couple years now. I don’t like seeing the word “Catholic” coupled with people who are making racist remarks or broad generalizations about race. I also don’t think I’m the only person who finds this discomfiting.
 
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I have yet to see anyone I think is being racist. But to a thin skinned liberal almost anything can be seen as racist.

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Why is it so important to you to know whether Student has been banned? As there is no indication on his profile, the only one who would know that is the moderators. You are free to private message them and ask these questions. I am ending this conversation now as I do not find it constructive, plus you are violating the forum’s civility rules by name-calling (“thin skinned liberal”). Have a nice Sunday.
 
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Were those punk artists atheists? Atheists tend to like to point out that Hitler was born Catholic so we all must be like Hitler right? 😂 Anyway Marx, Stalin, Lenin,Mao and Hitler were all terrible people. I still think a secured national border and following immigration law is important though. Is that what constitutes being a “Nazi” nowadays? 😆
 
While troll style racist posting is a newer phenomenon here, I think it’s important to point out that the Confederacy was a white supremacist movement, and this forum has consistently been tolerant of posters who defend it. While I agree that there has been further decline, racism has always been a problem here.
 
Bigotry exist everywhere. If there is group of people there is bigotry.
 
There have been many posters over the past years who have posted on the superiority of the white race.

I have seen a post that said non-white people are not capable of moral behavioral should all be kicked out of the US.

I even got some death threats PM to me from these same posters.

They come over from 4chan or 8chan or whatever forum now popular with these trolls.

They seem to hate women of all races, non-white men, LGBT, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Liberals. Very unhappy people in general.
 
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Just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. One’s perspective doesn’t always define reality.

It doesn’t take a thin skinned liberal to know that claims of non-white people being incapable of moral behavior is racist.

One more question, why the name calling and caricaturing of those who express opinions you disagree with?

I agree with you that anyone can be a bigot.
 
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What’s shocked me more so are Irish people who are all “whites only” and Ireland for the Irish". It might sound strange to Americans but growing up we never saw ourselves as “white” but Irish and that is how I still view myself but not sure will future generations be the same.
 
And people can make claims that it happens, but if it does it is an extreme minority. It there a way to see how many people belong to CAF?
 
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