Whitewashing US history with 'patriotic education' -Trump

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Could just list U.S. presidents and add a respectable 8 figures to capitalism’s death toll.
 
Ridgerunner said:
It wasn’t always about slavery.
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Don’t fool yourself. It was about the expansion of slavery and if it could be restricted to the states where slavery was legal and not expand into the territories. Folks in the slave states now try to blame states’ rights or self-determination, in order to feel better, I guess.

It was about slavery.
 
JonNC said:
Socialism is government forcing you to not do as you choose, and kill or imprison you if you resist.
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How simplistic and erroneous! How is it that the Twelve Apostles lived in what has been described as a socialist cell?

But let’s not veer off on that tangent. The subject has been worked over repeatedly on this forum.
 
I agree with you. We need to teach both our great achievements as well as our horrible failures as a nation.

America is an interesting country with a lot of complex and inspiring historical figures. None were perfect and few were irredeemably bad.
 
EssentialBeing said:
Have you considered that not everyone can be a doctor, not ever everyone can be a stockbroker, not everyone can be a fireman.
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Im none of these. So of course. Why would anyone think all jobs exist for everyone?
EssentialBeing said:
The fact that capitalism always relies on the improvement path of skills, training & education seems to be self defeating.
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Actually it’s self improving. Or, one can choose a more modest road. Teacher. Plumber.
How about entrepreneur. None of that is self defeating.
EssentialBeing said:
Reality is training & re-skilling may be the only positive thing we can do, however it is still not a guarantee to improved income. Yes it increases the possibility of financial growth but is certainly not the outcome of all who take on this concept.
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I think the history of upward mobility in America supports the idea that individuals have the opportunity to improve their lives in ways not available in a socialist system. And more than ever before, people of all backgrounds have this opportunity.
EssentialBeing said:
Labor unions, social security, public housing, free healthcare, free food & among many other things we seem to take forgranted.
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And none of these are socialism.
 
Convenient that he was arrested under the Trump administration, but then managed to “killed himself” in his cell before he could name names.
 
This is hilarious. Republicans have always been vehemently against federal oversight of education.

Until that is, there’s possible power to be gained in their mind.

Truly through the looking glass here.
 
EssentialBeing said:
A person without particular skill doesn’t really have a choice other than to accept what is on offer, the take it or leave it approach.
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I have to strongly disagree. Trade generally takes place between people of divergent skills, and has been that way since the first skilled arrow-maker who couldn’t hunt well traded some arrowheads for a haunch of venison from a hunter who couldn’t make arrowheads well.

But almost everyone has particular skills that are not widespread. Yesterday I talked to a man who builds huge decorative windows one see in commercial buildings. The glass is about an inch thick, he said. The wooden parts are hand-made. They are exceedingly hard to handle and it takes a lot of skill to make them. That’s just one skill. How many people have that skill?
 
And it was about secession. And tariffs and their impact on the nation(s) financing. And what was the precise nature of the union, under the Constitution. All points which could have been and had been discussed in years before the War, in different contexts. All related, in this context, to slavery.
 
jtauke said:
This is hilarious. Republicans have always been vehemently against federal oversight of education.
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And the left has always insisted on federal interference in public education. They’ve been successful in handing that power to the general government’s executive branch. It makes sense that when Republicans have power they use it for the good of education.

OTOH, if you folks don’t want a Republican President exercising current power over education, let’s agree to shut down federal education spending and control and return it to local and state governments where it belongs.
 
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This thread is about Trump. Yes or Yes?
Clinton is not the President. Yes or Yes?
 
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RidgeSprinter said:
This thread is about Trump. Yes or Yes?
Clinton is not the President. Yes or Yes?
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If people are going to imply that Trump, long before he was president, participated in child sexual abuse with Epstein (a despicable accusation without evidence) because of a picture they had taken together, it seems reasonable to consider Clinton’s picture with Epstein after he was president.

Or, we can avoid altogether such accusations.
 
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