Who are the protesters behind Occupy Wall Street–and what do they want?

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I just find it odd how the tea party movement didn’t get as much flack as occupy wall street is getting and many people praised them for being Americans who want financial responsibility, but those who participated in occupy wall street are being slammed as unpatriotic anarchists.
There is a difference that you may not have noticed. Tea Partyers were not defecating on police cars, or on the American flag, or banging drums all night to keep people who live in the area awake. Tea Partyers did not sit around half drunk, or smoking pot, or partially clothed. When asked questions, Tea Partyers were articulate and knew why they were there. This rent-a-mob group (many of them) are there for various reasons that really don’t make sense. Just listen to them.
 
You know I heard many interviewed about their forclosed homes which they couldn’t afford. And somehow that become “Why would they sell me a home I couldn’t afford”

But at the end of the day who was really at fault. “Them” for giving you a break you would have never gotten, and a chance to live the American Dream as you chose to? Or “you” for not making the payment??? The flip side would have been “Why won’t they give me a chance, I have great credit”🤷 Come-on, what was that like 5-years ago??

So it becomes the loaners fault because they should have know you couldn’t afford the home. Isn’t that something the buyer should have known, or do you suppose the Government ought to pay for that also? You notice they had no problem trying to keep up with the Jone’s in the material world though.
 
President Obama recently made a speech in which he encouraged people to take off their bedroom slippers and to protest.

But protest … what? … exactly? …

These protesters don’t actually want to work. They seem to just want to lay around.

While driving this evening, someone on the radio mentioned someone he knew as a youth … fellow didn’t want to go to college. So he took a job at McDonalds. But, he LIKED it. Liked waiting on the customers and making their McDonald’s experience a pleasant one. He worked hard, showed up on time, or early. Soon was made night manager.

Put in many more hours than what was expected of him.

Got promoted to general manager.

His branch made a lot of money. Lots of repeat business. High employee retention.

One day, he decided he should work for himself and with his work history was able to get his own McDonald’s franchise.

Now, some years later, he owns several McDonald’s franchises.

And is now a multi-millionaire.

So, … you want fries with that?
Yep. Happens all the time when you have drive and back it up with hard work.

My dad only went to the 7th grade in another country. Came here … worked 2 and 3 jobs at times. Retired CEO of a global company.

I guess those dirty spoiled kids think they are entitled to his hard work.
 
Not trying to get off topic but seeing your post has suddenly given me the urge to go hit up the McDonalds drive through for a number one with a root beer. You have officially made me hungry 😃
If you do that, you will be officially participating in free market economics … capitalism!

:cool:

Here is a transcript of Michele Bachmann and Newt Gingrich discussing Wall Street and the current economic difficulties.

Preceded by some explanation and intro:

Michele Bachmann laying the blame, economic problems, housing crisis at the feet of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.

Karen Tumulty, Washington Post, co-moderator, said, “Congressman Bachmann, three years after the financial meltdown, Main Street continues to suffer. People have lost their jobs, they’ve lost their homes, they’ve lost their faith in the future, but Wall Street’s thriving. The banks not only got bailed out by the government they made huge profits and they paid themselves huge bonus. Do you think it’s right that no Wall Street executives have gone to jail for the damage?”

What? I heard that question, almost turned it off, what’s the point of watching this? It’s just another left-wing media template full of questions that are not gonna advance the ball whatsoever. Who’s out there saying Wall Street execs need to go to jail except the far-left fringe blogs? So they get to determine the questions that are asked. Anyway, here’s how Bachmann answered this infantile question.

BACHMANN: ** It was Congressman Barney Frank and also Senator Chris Dodd that continued to push government directed housing goals. They pushed the banks to meet these rules, and it began with Freddie and Fannie. If you look at these secondary mortgage companies, which the federal government is essentially backing 100%, they put American mortgages in a very difficult place. We had artificially low interest rates, Freddie and Fannie were the center of the universe on the mortgage meltdown, and we had lending standards lowered for the first time in American history. The fault goes back to the federal government, and that’s what’s wrong with Dodd-Frank. Dodd-Frank institutionalized all of these problems.**

That’s right on the money! And she said that in 44 seconds.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

And the look on Karen Tumulty’s face was one of total vacancy, deer in the headlights.

Tumulty had no idea what Michele Bachmann was talking about.

Later on Karen Tumulty again talking to Newt. “Speaker Gingrich, sounds like Congresswoman Bachmann does not believe Wall Street’s to blame for the financial --” Really? What’s your first clue there, Karen? “You’ve said that the current protests on Wall Street are, in your words, the natural product of Obama’s class warfare. Does this mean that these people that are out there protesting on Wall Street and across the country have no grievance whatsoever?”

GINGRICH: ** I think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to be angry. But let’s be clear who put the fix in. The fix was put in by the federal government, and if you want to put people in jail, I want to second what Michelle said, you ought to start with Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and let’s look at the politicians who created the environment, the politicians who profited from the environment, and the politicians who put this country in trouble.
**

CHARLIE ROSE: Clearly, you’re not saying they should go to jail?

GINGRICH: Well, in Chris Dodd’s case, go back and look at the Countrywide deals. Barney Frank’s case, go back and look at the lobbyists he was close to at Freddie Mac.

[Perhaps Gingrich was alluding to those bureaucrats who made false statements under oath … Jamie Gorelick and Franklyn Raines … but then, they are Democrat Party operatives.]
 
Well to be perfectly honest if you really want to protest something, maybe you ought to take a look at the Eminent Domain which seems to be splashed across the news lately.

Now thats a tragedy when someone is actually making the morgage payments and the citys offer less than whats owed? That one caught me off-guard. 😉
 
I found this online

**Who are the 99% ?
Who are we? Well, who are you? If you’re reading this, there’s a 99 percent chance that you’re one of us.

You’re someone who doesn’t know whether there’s going to be enough money to make this month’s rent. You’re someone who gets sick and toughs it out because you’ll never afford the hospital bills. You’re someone who’s trying to move a mountain of debt that never seems to get any smaller no matter how hard you try. You do all the things you’re supposed to do. You buy store brands. You get a second job. You take classes to improve your skills. But it’s not enough. It’s never enough. The anxiety, the frustration, the powerlessness is still there, hovering like a storm crow. Every month you make it is a victory, but a Pyrrhic one — once you’re over the hump, all you can do is think about the next one and how much harder it’s all going to be.
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**They say it’s because you’re lazy. They say it’s because you make poor choices. They say it’s because you’re spoiled. If you’d only apply yourself a little more, worked a little harder, planned a little better, things would go well for you. Why do you need more help? Haven’t they helped you enough? They say you have no one to blame but yourself. They say it’s all your fault.

They are the 1 percent. They are the banks, the mortgage industry, the insurance industry. They are the important ones. They need help and get bailed out and are praised as job creators. We need help and get nothing and are called entitled. We live in a society made for them, not for us. It’s their world, not ours. If we’re lucky, they’ll let us work in it so long as we don’t question the extent of their charity.

We are the 99 percent. We are everyone else. And we will no longer be silent. It’s time the 1 percent got to know us a little better. **
 
I found this online

**Who are the 99% ?
Who are we? Well, who are you? If you’re reading this, there’s a 99 percent chance that you’re one of us.

You’re someone who doesn’t know whether there’s going to be enough money to make this month’s rent. You’re someone who gets sick and toughs it out because you’ll never afford the hospital bills. You’re someone who’s trying to move a mountain of debt that never seems to get any smaller no matter how hard you try. You do all the things you’re supposed to do. You buy store brands. You get a second job. You take classes to improve your skills. But it’s not enough. It’s never enough. The anxiety, the frustration, the powerlessness is still there, hovering like a storm crow. Every month you make it is a victory, but a Pyrrhic one — once you’re over the hump, all you can do is think about the next one and how much harder it’s all going to be.
**
**They say it’s because you’re lazy. They say it’s because you make poor choices. They say it’s because you’re spoiled. If you’d only apply yourself a little more, worked a little harder, planned a little better, things would go well for you. Why do you need more help? Haven’t they helped you enough? They say you have no one to blame but yourself. They say it’s all your fault.

They are the 1 percent. They are the banks, the mortgage industry, the insurance industry. They are the important ones. They need help and get bailed out and are praised as job creators. We need help and get nothing and are called entitled. We live in a society made for them, not for us. It’s their world, not ours. If we’re lucky, they’ll let us work in it so long as we don’t question the extent of their charity.

We are the 99 percent. We are everyone else. And we will no longer be silent. It’s time the 1 percent got to know us a little better. **
I am neither the 99 percent nor the 1 percent. I am the me, and I refuse to be lumped into a group.
 
I found this online

**Who are the 99% ?
Who are we? Well, who are you? If you’re reading this, there’s a 99 percent chance that you’re one of us.

You’re someone who doesn’t know whether there’s going to be enough money to make this month’s rent. You’re someone who gets sick and toughs it out because you’ll never afford the hospital bills. You’re someone who’s trying to move a mountain of debt that never seems to get any smaller no matter how hard you try. You do all the things you’re supposed to do. You buy store brands. You get a second job. You take classes to improve your skills. But it’s not enough. It’s never enough. The anxiety, the frustration, the powerlessness is still there, hovering like a storm crow. Every month you make it is a victory, but a Pyrrhic one — once you’re over the hump, all you can do is think about the next one and how much harder it’s all going to be.
**
**They say it’s because you’re lazy. They say it’s because you make poor choices. They say it’s because you’re spoiled. If you’d only apply yourself a little more, worked a little harder, planned a little better, things would go well for you. Why do you need more help? Haven’t they helped you enough? They say you have no one to blame but yourself. They say it’s all your fault.

They are the 1 percent. They are the banks, the mortgage industry, the insurance industry. They are the important ones. They need help and get bailed out and are praised as job creators. We need help and get nothing and are called entitled. We live in a society made for them, not for us. It’s their world, not ours. If we’re lucky, they’ll let us work in it so long as we don’t question the extent of their charity.

We are the 99 percent. We are everyone else. And we will no longer be silent. It’s time the 1 percent got to know us a little better. **
Dont put me in that filthy group. I dont envy people who have more than I do.
I really dont care. I have my own life to live.
 
Dont put me in that filthy group. I dont envy people who have more than I do.
I really dont care. I have my own life to live.
So what about those people in the above group who truly do need help and working their tails off and are barely making ends meet and can’t afford something as basic as health insurance? Are we just supposed to tell them tough luck?
 
It’s not 1%, It’s 53% that pay for the other 47% that pay no federal income taxes.
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So what about those people in the above group who truly do need help and working their tails off and are barely making ends meet and can’t afford something as basic as health insurance? Are we just supposed to tell them tough luck?
Take some personal responsibility for your own life.

I dont owe them a thing.

None of those people are working their tails off. If they were they wouldnt have time to sit around in NYC stinking up the place.

youtube.com/watch?v=wrPGoPFRUdc&feature=share
 
Take some personal responsibility for your own life.

I dont owe them a thing.

None of those people are working their tails off. If they were they wouldnt have time to sit around in NYC stinking up the place.

youtube.com/watch?v=wrPGoPFRUdc&feature=share
Most people did work their tails off, but were laid off from jobs due to the recent financial crisis in case you didn’t know. Of course financial responsibility is a must, but what about those who are in such dire straights they are barely making it? Not everyone is able to pull themselves out of poverty or poor conditions with the just work harder attitude when you really take in account all of the factors facing those who are low income and I don’t mean living in middle class suburbia and drinking starbucks. That’s just one example and does not represent all of us who protestors. I don’t expect anyone to foot the bill for my education, but while big CEO’s pay rises and get million dollar bail outs is mind boggling while the middle class and others are barely making it with the job losses and financial cuts.
 
So what about those people in the above group who truly do need help and working their tails off and are barely making ends meet and can’t afford something as basic as health insurance? Are we just supposed to tell them tough luck?
I don’t make much more than I pay out in bills every month. How about we make a deal, if I can’t afford food to feed my family I will personally ask you myself for a loaf of bread and maybe some bologna. Let’s just keep the government out of it and we will both be better off.

Although, I will probably shoot a deer or turkey before I resort to asking strangers for bologna sanwiches.
 
I don’t make much more than I pay out in bills every month. How about we make a deal, if I can’t afford food to feed my family I will personally ask you myself for a loaf of bread and maybe some bologna. Let’s just keep the government out of it and we will both be better off.
No one should suffer is what I’m saying or get a free ride at the expense of others, but things do need to change in our country financially for the greater of everyone not just the rich or just the low income. Looking at from the Christian perspective it’s sad when people in our own country what is supposed to be one of the wealthier nations are barely making it and go without things such as medical care and adequate nutrition while big CEO’s and others continue to get richer. My whole point is that financial responsibility on both parts needs to be taken. This is the end of my discussion, but I thank those for engaging with me in a respectful manner.
 
No one should suffer is what I’m saying or get a free ride at the expense of others, but things do need to change in our country financially for the greater of everyone not just the rich or just the low income. Looking at from the Christian perspective it’s sad when people in our own country what is supposed to be one of the wealthier nations are barely making it while big CEO’s and others continue to get richer.
We will be just fine, it has been much worse than this. My father went through true poverty. Labor as a child was required for him to help feed his brothers and sisters. I mean field labor, hoeing rows and pulling weeds from sun up to sun down. He could care less what any CEO made back then or today.
 
If they haven’t been watching the new they certainly ought to watch tonights.

I heard the NYC police just gave them till 7am tommorrow to leave?:eek:
Yeah I heard that too. I also heard they aren’t planning to leave or clean up. I’m afraid this is the catalyst that could cause it to boil over. le sigh
 
news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/protestors-behind-occupy-wall-street-want-133222625.html

I find this interesting and I’m concerned that the spin doctors are quickly trying to create an image here that this is an equal and opposite reaction to the Tea Party phenomenon.

I strongly disagree. I think there is an enormous amount of room in politics for people to be disgusted with BOTH excessive government spending and intrusion into people’s daily lives AND disgusted with the machinations of the Wall Street elite who constantly dream up new schemes for screwing Americans out of their money.

Myself, I’d happily claim membership in BOTH movements. I’d like LESS government bureacracy, agencies, red tape and obstructionism, less government funding of dubious programs, grants, handouts and giveaways to the well connected, less military spending.

I’d also be quite happy to see tax structures changed to place higher burdens on larger companies than exist on smaller ones. I’d favor a constitutional amendment to eliminate the ‘personhood’ status currently enjoyed by corporations in order to limit their political activities. I don’t see why we need a huge agency to review and deny merger requests when they clearly would create corporations “too large to fail.” And so on.

It’s not at all clear to me that this movement is a groundswell demanding that the wealth of the rich be seized and given away to the poor. What I see in everday Americans is disgust with the insider’s club on Wall Street that takes care of each other first and let’s the actual stockholders have the leftovers, when there are any.
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I love what Ann Coulter called them The Flea Party or Occupy Our Mothers’ Basements. All they want to do is live off their host.anncoulter.com/
 
I am neither the 99 percent nor the 1 percent. I am the me, and I refuse to be lumped into a group.
I’m not the 99%, I’m the 53% that actually pays federal income tax.

My problem with Occupy is that I agree that corporatism is bad and if all they were protesting was corporatism (government in bed with corporations) I’d be at the Occupy Chicago events in a heartbeat. But the problem is they promote class warfare and the collapse of capitalism (which we don’t really have).
 
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