Who were Adam's womb based parents?

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Roseeurekacross said:
God is our Father, everyone’s Father

Our Father who art in heaven,
Holy be thy name…

The Lord’s Prayer, taught to us by God the Son, Jesus.

God is our creator, our Father

You state your religion as Catholic.

For Catholics, obedient to the Magisterium, we accept and hold holy , the Lord’s Prayer.
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Is that up for dispute here?
You asserted (or seemed to) that God the Father is Adam’s parent.

So, ?

Why don’t you just clarify your position instead of using the Pater Noster to dance around?
 
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Cruciferi said:
My point is that you’re completely wrong. Is that blunt enough for you?

Adam and Eve were created and not born. Reading the Genesis narrative, I believe that the case could be made that God played a parental role for Adam and Eve.

Why does this bother you? It’s not heretical.
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That is absolutely 100% not Catholic teaching at all.
That bothers me. It should also bother you.
 
Show me where it has been condemned? How does it damage one’s soul?
 
Before you try and support your errant position, please consider the CCC:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s2c1p6.htm

God wills Adam into being as an act of divine creation. God is not considered to be Adam’s parent.
Adam and Eve are considered parents of the whole human race. Proposing God as Adam’s parent is to make God in man’s image.
370 In no way is God in man’s image. He is neither man nor woman. God is pure spirit in which there is no place for the difference between the sexes. But the respective “perfections” of man and woman reflect something of the infinite perfection of God: those of a mother and those of a father and husband.241
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Let’s get down to the real question…did Adam and Eve have a bellybutton?

I would say no…
 
BlueMaxx said:
Let’s get down to the real question…did Adam and Eve have a bellybutton?

I would say no…
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And how will you find that out? Is there a process of discovery you need to go through to find this information?
What do we call that process?

Anyone?
 
So why do we call God Our Father? He knows us and loves us more than our biological parents do. We are referred to numerous times as children of God you know…
 
Cruciferi said:
So why do we call God Our Father? He knows us and loves us more than our biological parents do. We are referred to numerous times as children of God you know…
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Let me ask you, did you read the section of the CCC that was referenced?
If not, why not?
And don’t ask for quotes to prove elementary points. You have a responsibility as an adult to educate yourself in the faith.
And this is a solemn responsibility.
 
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Why do you think?
I will play this game one time, and you are an adult, and we should be past this already.
 
In my humble opinion I use reasoning, scripture and deduction…Adam is the first man…God created him and so he was not born of a woman…also it was not long after when Adam and Eve went to the Tree of Knowledge fruit bar that God told them

5 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed
6 To the woman he said,

Here God is speaking of reproduction as a result of seed.

6 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children;

So now God is introducing childbirth that would also naturally include said belly button…😁

Before God speaks specifically about about Him creating Adam and Eve, He does not mention anywhere about giving birth.

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Here God is describing the process of the origination of Adam, nothing about birth, or child bearing…

8 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Again God is explaining He is making Adam, not having him come from anyone or anything else biologically…in fact He describes elements instead…well dust and earth at least.

Also to Eve.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Again, nothing to do with natural birth…God created them out of first the earth, then with Adam’s rib…

Everything afterwards God references to childbearing and birth…

3 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

Again, this illustrates that Eve was not born but created and she came from his bones…nothing about a womb…

To add:

No need to weep for me, I am perfectly content to live my life quietly and humbly in accordance with Church teachings…
 
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  • God is Our Father
2 Corinthians 6:18

And, “I will be a Father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.”
  • Jesus, being True God and True Man, is also Our Brother
Romans 8:29

”For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.”
  • Mary is Our Mother
John 19:27

”After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own”
 
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goout said:
Is that up for dispute here?
You asserted (or seemed to) that God the Father is Adam’s parent.

So, ?

Why don’t you just clarify your position instead of using the Pater Noster to dance around?
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God is everyone’s parent, everyone’s father.
You know what was meant.

I will pray for you . There is no need to insult.
 
Do you understand that Catholics read Genesis with an deep appreciation for symbolism?
It’s right in those references to the Catechism.
 
Then what are we going on about?
You disputed something, I tried to clarify with references, and now I am insulting.
ok…
 
This does not support your hypothesis.

Here is an easier one, the Lords Prayer. Jesus told us God was our father
 
Roseeurekacross said:
This does not support your hypothesis.

Here is an easier one, the Lords Prayer. Jesus told us God was our father
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You asserted God is Adam’s parent, that Adam had no womb. That is a strictly physical reference to Adam’s makeup. Adam is a unity of body and soul.
God is not Adam’s parent.

And I have no hypothesis. I referenced the CCC.
 
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