Who were Adam's womb based parents?

[Sonic]

I’ve got a more up to date chart based on new empiric data. Turns out man wasn’t descended from apes after all.

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[Cruciferi]

Wow… I don’t usually admit this but you’re soo right!

 

[AlNg]

Seriously, who cares

Many scientists today do care about evolution. There are many universities all over the world with departments where evolution is taught and studied. There are even courses on the international internet and you tube where evolution is discussed in depth. I am afraid that your comments are not going to be taken seriously by many professionals in the field.

 

[Cruciferi]

I am afraid that your comments are not going to be taken seriously by many professionals in the field.

What does that have to do with this Thread? Why are we now assuming that I will go debate scientists?

You’re not making sense. Perhaps the better question is “Why do you care?”

 

[AlNg]

This chart of cats becoming human is of course a joke and I doubt that you can find a single biologist or evolutionary scientist who has advocated this.
Some people want to put their heads in the sand.

 

[AlNg]

What does that have to do with this Thread

It has everything to do with the question raised by the OP of this thread:
Who were Adam’s womb based parents. On the one hand we have the professional biologists and other scientists who are teaching evolution, and on the other hand, we have people who are sniping at them bringing up the question of whether or not humans evolved from cats… I don’t know anyone who would take this discussion of humans evolving from cats seriously. It is very much flawed and indicates a real lack of knowledge about human evolution.

 

[Sonic]

This chart of cats becoming human is of course a joke and I doubt that you can find a single biologist or evolutionary scientist who has advocated this.
Some people want to put their heads in the sand.

Oh yeah! Then how do you explain the whole disobeying God thing, huh?

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[BlueMaxx]

I am done…pearls before swine at this point…

2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.

3 But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

 

[Cruciferi]

Some people want to put their heads in the sand.

Are you referring to yourself?

Who were Adam’s womb based parents.

It was God. He made them. I know YOU evolutionists find this hard; however, you’ll have to accept that people will disagree with you. You believe in a Theory and that’s all.

It is very much flawed and indicates a real lack of knowledge about human evolution.

That’s a typical response.

“Well, you just don’t understand!”

No, I understand. Believe me, I understand enough to say that I prefer the Bible over that hodgepodge of guessing.

 

[AlNg]

That’s a typical response.

“Well, you just don’t understand!”

I just do not think that there is any evidence that humans evolved from cats. Can you give us the name of one reputable scientist who teaches that humans evolved from cats?

 

[Cruciferi]

Can you give us the name of one reputable scientist who teaches that humans evolved from cats?

Perhaps you’ll be the first?

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[Cruciferi]

There was a reason the Evolution Topic was banned on the Old CAF. It’s an utterly pointless venture. Around and around we go :crazy_face:

 

[bobperk]

I’m surprised you’re arguing against God’s ability to do miracles

Could they both be miracles? Perhaps, as we may consider both as Catholics. But no passages of Scripture even suggest (though I know you differ in at least Gen 2) the notion of God bestowing a soul to a “hominin.”

there must be death and decay

The Greek word used in the passage you are referencing does not necessarily mean permanent death, but can be rendered to mean the appearance of perishing, to arise as something new. Jesus talks of the seed and compares it to death and resurrection.

 

[AlNg]

pearls before swine at this point…

Who are the swine you are talking about?

 

[Dedios]

That’s my point.

 

[sevenswords]

Adam and Eve were created without sin, no sin was in them
Scripture has a genealogy back to Our first parents from Christ
Dinosaurs etc used to prove evolution, are not millions of years old they are fairly resent like the do do they got hunted to extinction hence we find cave art pottery depicting the hunts of dinos
then we have if that does not convince you empirical evidence

See how wrong they are
This list could go on all day so just to add scripture tells us you will know them by their fruits, so we have this
Secular/Atheist theory fruits Atheism/Communism/Nazism/Secularism/Feminism/humanism etc etc this theory that has been taught to children for the last century is a huge lie formed to bring a naturalistic story of origins

 

[TK421]

This is my final question on Evolution.

who was Adam’s parents? if so they be from animals, would Adam be fathered by animals?

Adam doesn’t have any biological parents. He was created from dust by the power of God. Genesis is etiological, not scientific.

 

[Aulef]

That argument doesn’t resonate with me, since it assumes (without foundation) that a hominin-made-human would have to have been conceived as a human. That’s not a necessary precondition.

What do you mean by this? Do you think this is some kind of “egg-chicken” situation?

 

[LeafByNiggle]

I suppose you have an explanation of why radio carbon dating theory is false too.

 

[Gorgias]

no passages of Scripture even suggest (though I know you differ in at least Gen 2) the notion of God bestowing a soul to a “hominin.”

No passage of Scripture suggests that the earth rotates around the sun. Are you going to argue for that notion, too?

The Greek word used in the passage you are referencing does not necessarily mean permanent death, but can be rendered to mean the appearance of perishing, to arise as something new

Actually, the Greek word used there (ἀποθάνῃ) is constructed from two parts: ἀπο, meaning “away from” and θνῄσκω (thnḗskō), which really does mean “die” (compare it to ‘thanos’, the Greek word for ‘death’).

It’s used quite commonly in the NT, and it carries the meaning “perish” or “die”. So, no… it’s not about an ‘appearance’. (As Christians, we would distinguish between physical death and eternal perishing, of course, but the force of the word here isn’t appearance of death.)

What do you mean by this? Do you think this is some kind of “egg-chicken” situation?

No. I mean that the argument that “the Immaculate Conception ‘proves’ that Adam wasn’t a hominin who received a soul from God” makes a presumption that isn’t valid. It presumes that this happened at Adam’s conception, and that’s not a necessary feature of the argument for Adam’s hominin-cum-human creation.