Who will you be supporting in the U.S. presidential election with our Catholic values in mind?

[Feanor2]

The Republicans push legislation demonizing the poor as having made “bad choices” in life.

If only the poor had “pulled themselves up by their bootstraps” they wouldn’t be in the position they are in.

 

[Jeanne_S]

I’ve never heard d thatvI think you must mean Mike Bloomberg a Dem candidate he’s said such things

 

[Jeanne_S]

I can state as a fan ct O supported the infant born alive bill
The Dems are in the back pocket of PP etc all
Tells me whose more pro death
Facts are stubborn

 

[Thom18]

If a person promotes abortion, you mustn’t vote for them, no matter which branch of government they’re running for. Abortion is intrinsically evil- a candidate having a different opinion on welfare than you’d prefer isn’t grounds for voting for an abortion supporter.

 

[JapaneseKappa]

If a person promotes abortion, you mustn’t vote for them, no matter which branch of government they’re running for. Abortion is intrinsically evil- a candidate having a different opinion on welfare than you’d prefer isn’t grounds for voting for an abortion supporter.

So the actual abortion numbers are irrelevant, huh. As long as the candidate says the right words, it doesn’t matter if he/she makes the problem worse.

 

[Jeanne_S]

What are you talking about? President Trump has defunded PP appointed 2.Conservative SCOTUS’!facts are stubborn
Your entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts

 

[JapaneseKappa]

But the problem is abortion, not PP funding or SC justices. How have those decisions impacted the actual problem (i.e. abortion rate.)

 

[Elf01]

But the problem is abortion, not PP funding or SC justices. How have those decisions impacted the actual problem (i.e. abortion rate.)

Lowering the abortion rate is good, but I think it’s more important to have the law recognize that the unborn have a right to life.

 

[Jeanne_S]

You are attempting to defect from the original statement.You stated that the Republicans and those who support them aren’t really pro life as per the usual Dem meme.We only care about the preborn.I have given several examples as to the prolife efforts by way of legislation etc from the Republicans ,in contrast to the pro death laws and mindset of the Dems. If abortion has diminished n the past several years it is due to a combination of the prolife movements focus on development of nascent life and sadly also due to the RU86 pills. Still abortion.

 

[JapaneseKappa]

Lowering the abortion rate is good, but I think it’s more important to have the law recognize that the unborn have a right to life.

That’s strange to me. If offered the choice between living somewhere where I could be legally shot, but shootings were actually very rare I would definitely choose it over living somewhere shootings were illegal but common.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

If a person promotes abortion, you mustn’t vote for them, no matter which branch of government they’re running for.

This is not binding Catholic doctrine. You are free to follow this rule if you wish, but it is a personal rule.

You stated that the Republicans and those who support them aren’t really pro life as per the usual Dem meme.We only care about the preborn.

There is evidence that their concern for the pre-born is not perfect either. I would like to see a Republican come out in favor of universal prenatal care and delivery services, tax-supported, regardless of complications, for all - the poor, the middle class, the rich, everyone.

 

[JapaneseKappa]

You are attempting to defect from the original statement.

You’re entitled to your own opinion, but the fact is that abortion is the real moral imperative. Abortion rate is the only fact that matters.

 

[Victoria33]

I can state as a fan ct O supported the infant born alive bill
The Dems are in the back pocket of PP etc all
Tells me whose more pro death
Facts are stubborn

Voting for the Demcrats is voting for Planned Parenthood. It’s reprehensible anyone would do so.

Tina Smith, former Planned Parenthood director, US Senator, in fact, on staff and so forth of Democrat politicians, Planned Parenthood is all over the place. Donations too, endorsements. Susan Collins has received aid from Planned Parenthood, Republican-Maine, so it’s not all on the Democrats but most of it is.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Your post makes no sense at all,sorry but you’ve diverged off the debate

 

[CradleRC58]

I googled Brian Carroll and got Buckethead

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Lol

Same name wrong guy.

 

[dvdjs]

Lowering the abortion rate is good, but I think it’s more important to have the law recognize that the unborn have a right to life.

What actions has Trump taken to support that ?
Has there been any move by Republicans at the national level take to support that idea.

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I see this and wonder what will be accomplished by repealing RvW? Abortions rates are already at sinking to pre RvW levels.

Tells me whose more pro death

Who in our political parties is actually pro-death - actually advocating for death?
Apart from advocates of capital punishment, very few people in our political parties advocate for death.

the fact is that abortion is the real moral imperative. Abortion rate is the only fact that matters.

From a Catholic perspective reall moral issue must also include contraception.

 

[CradleRC58]

Well, he looks like a good choice. Tempting !

 

[Ridgerunner]

Pro-life within the culture of the right excludes those already born. By the very definition of “from conception to natural death”, the term has been hijacked and what they advocate should be labeled “Pro-birth”.

Not only in the “culture of the right”. It’s pervasive among those who actually are prolife, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum.

What makes you think prolife people are only pro-birth? I know a lot of prolife people and they’re generally very charitable people. But you can’t be prolife and pro-death simultaneously, which is why abortion supporters’ claim to be prolife because, e.g. they (pretend to) provide for poor mothers, is a false claim.

 

[drcube]

Not only in the “culture of the right”. It’s pervasive among those who actually are prolife, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum.

What makes you think prolife people are only pro-birth? I know a lot of prolife people and they’re generally very charitable people. But you can’t be prolife and pro-death simultaneously, which is why abortion supporters’ claim to be prolife because, e.g. they (pretend to) provide for poor mothers, is a false claim.

Well, I guess you have to ask yourself which reduces abortion the most. Putting your hopes on passing legislation or supporting young mothers in a society where abortion is legal. It seems like the latter has done more than the former for the last 45 years.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Well, I guess you have to ask yourself which reduces abortion the most. Putting your hopes on passing legislation or supporting young mothers in a society where abortion is legal. It seems like the latter has done more than the former for the last 45 years.

I realize the dems use this argument to cover their support of abortion. But the reality is they don’t do anything to support young mothers either, and haven’t for decades. The last thing anybody did to help young mothers was the Earned Income Credit, and that was Reagan’s. One of my favorite charities are a home for women in danger of abortion and an order of sisters whose vocation is to provide for them. The government isn’t helpful at all in those areas. I will admit the prolife Republican legislature in my state gives tax credits for donations to mothers’ homes.

But even if the Dems did do things for young mothers, that does not excuse promoting the murder of unborn (and for some, even born) children.

Some legislative efforts help, like driving Planned Parenthood out of my state. But filling the Supreme Court with prolife justices is ultimately the solution. Clinton promised to apppoint pro-abortion justices. Trump promised to appoint prolife justices, and did.