Who Will You Vote For in 2012?

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That thinking is part of the problem. The Church condemns as immoral key parts of the Democrat platform such as the support for abortion rights, homosexual marriage, stem cell research, etc. but does not condemn the platform of the GOP. That alone should be a cause for any Catholic to think twice before pulling the lever for the Democrat party. You have set a standard - the Church damning the Democrat party and praising the GOP to the skies - suitable for you to use as an excuse for voting for the party which in many ways supports the culture of death.

Ishii
If damning is too strong a word for you, why not “pointedly speaks against,” and if praise to the skies is too over the top for you, why not simply “praise”?
 
There are those who would have added, “the party of Muslim terrorists, illegal aliens, welfare parasites, Unholywood airheads, sexual perverts, pornographers, and criminals,” as we were described this morning on a conservative website. 🤷

Lovely, isn’t it? Do you think that such descriptions will move some of us to convert to the GOP?
More obfuscation. We are referring to the Democrat Party’s unequvocable support of abortion Rather than adress that all we get is hysterics.
 
More obfuscation. We are referring to the Democrat Party’s unequvocable support of abortion Rather than adress that all we get is hysterics.
The hysterics are remarks made by a conservative, and I’m sure he doesn’t speak for himself alone. Not that he hasn’t a right to say those things, just that broadbrushing the party by anyone is not going to move many of us into your camp.
 
The hysterics are remarks made by a conservative, and I’m sure he doesn’t speak for himself alone. Not that he hasn’t a right to say those things, just that broadbrushing the party by anyone is not going to move many of us into your camp.
I am not trying to bring you into anyone’s camp. Just pointing out the evil your chosen Party supports Believe me if the death of 50 million children won’t sway you I know no anonymous Internet posters will
 
There has to be somethinng wrong with a group of people who collectively cannot spell the name of the Democratic party. Is it willfull ignorance?
 
Right, the Republican Party is full of Republicans, the Libertarian Party is full of Libertarians, and the Democrat Party is full of Democrats. What is the problem?
Mix the names around in a hat and then pick the names out of the hat one by one and after watching what they DO…make a decision about whether they are good representatives of you and your family. By the way…forget what your grandma said about them.😊
 
Mix the names around in a hat and then pick the names out of the hat one by one and after watching what they DO…make a decision about whether they are good representatives of you and your family. By the way…forget what your grandma said about them.😊
Read my signature. I am done with political parties. They are part of the problem, as George Washington predicted some 230 years ago.
 
Mary, I’m certain that there are individual Republicans who want to help people and who are not greedy, and that there are even some who are not rich. But, who broadbrushes my party can expect the same in return.

Perhaps the best attitude is a pox on both parties, but not a pox on the individuals who support those two parties. 👍
Did not realize that quote broadbrushed anyone. I usually try very hard not to do that.
 
There has to be somethinng wrong with a group of people who collectively cannot spell the name of the Democratic party. Is it willfull ignorance?
The fact that Democrats find that term insulting, should be enough that polite people would not use it.
I think Veritas is missing the point. This is not a spelling issue. Perhaps he is just being obutse. In any case, I have never used the term, nor will I. I will take a page from AB Burke, but use a longer name to achiev accuracy. I will take the time and type out, The Political Party with a Pro-abortion Platform. (PPPP) That way if I do offend, it will be Truth that offends, not spelling.
 
Gingrich sounds fairly good but he’s is to much of a capitalist IMO.Under his leadership the spread between rich and poor would just get that much bigger.he got some good ideas and may be the republicans best choice(he is an excellent debater.IMO the best the reps.have to take on Obama).I just don’t like the idea of the wealth of this country being in the hands of so few.Again he still might be the best we can do.
 
I think Veritas is missing the point. This is not a spelling issue. Perhaps he is just being obutse. In any case, I have never used the term, nor will I. I will take a page from AB Burke, but use a longer name to achiev accuracy. I will take the time and type out, The Political Party with a Pro-abortion Platform. (PPPP) That way if I do offend, it will be Truth that offends, not spelling.
Motion adopted.
 
In you opinion-but it is a fact that the Democrat party supported slavery , segreagtion and today embraces abortion as a core policy of their party.

I have yet to see the Church condemn the GOP approach to helping the poor-yet the Church categorciall rejects core compenents of the Democrat party platform.
Welll thereis a good reason for that.Abortion is a worse crime.However I doubt if you’ll ever hear the CC say how good of job they are doing to help the poor either.
 
Welll thereis a good reason for that.Abortion is a worse crime.However I doubt if you’ll ever hear the CC say how good of job they are doing to help the poor either.
There is a difference between “helping the poor” and “keeping the poor impoverished by getting them addicted to entitlements”.
 
The Catholic Church does not tell anyone who to vote for. If a Catholic resents the Church for teaching them how to make good moral choices, then that Catholic either does not understand the role of the Church in the world today, or they are putting their will over God’s will in some area. In which case, it is best to deal with the root sin and not the effect of resenting Church doctrine.

I will be the first to admit that many on the right use what the Church teaches, and then exceeds Church teaching by drawing black and white where the Church does not. However, this misuse by some can not be used as an excuse to disregard our moral obligations. Some of those are indeed black and white.
 
If damning is too strong a word for you, why not “pointedly speaks against,” and if praise to the skies is too over the top for you, why not simply “praise”?
But the Church “pointedly speaks out against” the key aspects of the Democrat party platform which are against Catholic moral teaching as I posted earlier - abortion rights, gay rights, embryonic stem cell research, and euthanasia. What parts of the GOP platform does the Catholic Church similarly condemn as morally evil?

Ishii
 
I think Veritas is missing the point. This is not a spelling issue. Perhaps he is just being obutse. In any case, I have never used the term, nor will I. I will take a page from AB Burke, but use a longer name to achiev accuracy. I will take the time and type out, The Political Party with a Pro-abortion Platform. (PPPP) That way if I do offend, it will be Truth that offends, not spelling.
I think that is an apt term for the Democrat party. Another one could be “the Culture of Death Party” (CDP) or simply " the party of death" (POD).

Ishii
 
There is a difference between “helping the poor” and “keeping the poor impoverished by getting them addicted to entitlements”.
Agreed.And I know that’s the stance.The problem:how to weed out the welchers?Is there really as many as the reps.like to make people think there are?Seriously I doubt it.
 
Gingrich sounds fairly good but he’s is to much of a capitalist IMO.Under his leadership the spread between rich and poor would just get that much bigger.he got some good ideas and may be the republicans best choice(he is an excellent debater.IMO the best the reps.have to take on Obama).I just don’t like the idea of the wealth of this country being in the hands of so few.Again he still might be the best we can do.
Could it be that so few are willing to work hard and long enough to get to the top? It didn’t just happen. They earned it. Let’s not give in to class envy.
 
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