Who Will You Vote For in 2012?

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estesbob said:
So? Reminds me of the story about the woman who walked in on her husband in bed with another woman. He proclaimed and innocence and said “who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes” There is indisputable documentation that Barack Obama addressed a classroom of 11-year-olds using a Teleprompter.
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The video in post 352 backs up the Snopes story.
 
I like Sarah and I like Michelle Bachman, but my son brought up a point that was very interesting regarding how nations that we’re struggling with diplomatically (N. Korea, China, middle-East, Chavez), and how they perceive/treat/regard women. Would a woman president be dismissed by these other cultures? I know that Margaret Thatcher was greatly respected, but look at the American President at the time: Ronald Reagan. And he and Gorbachev did respect her. But, we’re in a different climate now and dealing with entirely different set of “new world powers.”

I am deeply concerned about the continuing downward free-fall of America but we must elect a President that will restore honor, dignity, morality, virtue and respect for the Office on a global spectrum and I don’t know if a woman can do this.
 
estesbob said:
So? Reminds me of the story about the woman who walked in on her husband in bed with another woman. He proclaimed and innocence and said “who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes” There is indisputable documentation that Barack Obama addressed a classroom of 11-year-olds using a Teleprompter.
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Reminds me of the story of a GOP candidate who called the Ryan plan to kill medicare “right-wing social engineering” on Meet the Press, and then said, “Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood”.

I guess the definition of “indisputable documentation” must mean something totally different in GOP land. :confused:

In the interest of fostering greater understanding, can anyone offer a definition to explain exactly what they mean by it?
 
What a silly argument over the use of a teleprompter, excluding those putting spin to it to make it a worse reality than it is. How many politicians, including past presidents, have used a teleprompter? There seems to be quite a bit of hypocrisy to this argument, in my honest opinion. :rolleyes:
 
nina13_p said:
I like Sarah and I like Michelle Bachman, but my son brought up a point that was very interesting regarding how nations that we’re struggling with diplomatically (N. Korea, China, middle-East, Chavez), and how they perceive/treat/regard women. Would a woman president be dismissed by these other cultures? I know that Margaret Thatcher was greatly respected, but look at the American President at the time: Ronald Reagan. And he and Gorbachev did respect her. But, we’re in a different climate now and dealing with entirely different set of “new world powers.”

I am deeply concerned about the continuing downward free-fall of America but we must elect a President that will restore honor, dignity, morality, virtue and respect for the Office on a global spectrum and I don’t know if a woman can do this.
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A woman like Margaret Thatcher could do this - women like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman… probably not.
 
Each time I check this thread Ron Paul is getting better and better:)
Who knows, maybe we are on verge on some kind of 2012 REVOLUTION!

Well, since I cannot vote, at least I can do some marketing for the cause;)
 
ExDom said:
Each time I check this thread Ron Paul is getting better and better:)
Who knows, maybe we are on verge on some kind of 2012 REVOLUTION!

Well, since I cannot vote, at least I can do some marketing for the cause;)
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But but but…ROn Paul is unelectable though…:rolleyes:
 
ExDom said:
Each time I check this thread Ron Paul is getting better and better:)
Who knows, maybe we are on verge on some kind of 2012 REVOLUTION!
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Ron Paul is the best person on the GOP ticket. If the rest of the party woke up to that fact, it would be a very good day. 🙂
 
gurneyhalleck1 said:
Reluctantly, Obama. While he hasn’t been kind to my line of work in many ways, at least he’s the only thing standing in the way of the Republicans destroying social security and medicare to turn them into cash cows for the for-profit insurance crooks and the private 401K gambling outfits. He caught Osama, which is more than I could say for Bush and company. Hopefully he’ll wrap up these two disastrous wars, get the economy back on track, and thwart all the pro-rich anti-working class nonsense the GOP is aspiring to dish out on this country.

Palin is so off the table I’d rather vote for Pee Wee Herman. The rest don’t have a prayer, especially Romney who is basically Obama trying to reinvent himself as a conservative. Pawlenty is a dud. Gingrich is a hypocrite. Mike Huckabee, though I disagree with him in several areas, is basically a good and decent man most of the time. But he decided not to run. Bachman is like Palin with even less knowledge and intelligence.

The GOP field looks pretty sad. Truly a least among evils situation.
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Neither Social Security nor medicare are financially sound, and medicare never was. One ougtht think about how things were done back in the early’60s. Few had “health” insurance,many had hospitilization insurance and themselves paid for
visits to the doctor and for medicine. After medicare, the insurance industry got into the medical field full time, so one no long paid a doctor for services. The doctors sent it along to the insurance companies. Both doctors fees and medicine
costs went up because the government was now paying for the poor guys that
the doctors used to serve gratis or for a few bucks. Fact is that the demand for health care is insatiable. More and more is better and better. The same corruptions that have rended our public schools suspect het the medical industry big time around 1980, I guess.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Maybe Bachmann, but I don’t think Ms. Palin could put on an American accent, let alone a British one.
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There are all kinds of American accents, and a lot of snobbery about which one are
acceptable. One reason why Barbour could never gain traction was his thick Southern accept. Palin talks like a lot of people in northwestern United States.
 
RobbyS said:
There are all kinds of American accents, and a lot of snobbery about which one are
acceptable. One reason why Barbour could never gain traction was his thick Southern accept. Palin talks like a lot of people in northwestern United States.
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Yes, very much so. I wouldn’t mistake her accent for any other country.
 
When the last 30 years of American history are looked at objectively, it seems quite obvious to me that regardless of which of the two major political parties you vote for makes very little difference. What you get is today’s global economy that benefits no-one except the multinational corps whose only goal is ever increasing profits at the lowest labor costs they can possibly find in the world.

The irony in this situation is that every war America has ever fought now means nothing in that our most vulnerable low paid laborers must now compete with what amounts to slave labor in every hell hole in China, India, Pakistan, Vietnam, etc.

Multinational corps now run this country, and the only thing they worship is money and power.

I did not vote for Bill Clinton, Reagan, either of the Bushes or Obama, because everyone of them are globalists first, and the untenable mess we’re in today is the objective proof that what I believe is true.

My last two votes were cast for Ron Paul because he’s the only conservative candidate who speaks the unsavory truth that we are unwitting slaves to the federal reserve banking system and munitions manufacturers, that manufacture wars, then sell arms to either side regardless of the morals or ethics involved.

America is no longer a sovereign nation. Every veteran of every war we’ve ever fought has been dishonored in a manner I would have never believed possible in this country only 30 years ago, but seeing objectively is believing.

jomoco
 
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