Why are people mormon considering it is obvioulsy fabricated?

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Obviously, they don’t consider it fabricated.

Many non-Christians ask the same question you do, but about Christianity, with equal legitimacy.
Incorrect! Many events in the Bible can be proven through science and excavating discoveries! I am an ex-mormon and almost all claimed historical events in the book of Mormon have been proven wrong! You should educate yourself on the matter before remarking!
 
Don’t forget the guitar and lets see if we can get Joan Baez to sing awhile. 🙂 But wasn’t it nice to have President Monson giving a speech at the cathedral? Sure it was…🙂
No Joan Baez, but the Cathedral choir did sing.

I wasn’t there. A friend of mine who went to BYU, and was baptized on the same night I was, said it was a ironic moment to be sitting a few feet from Pres. Monson with a rosary in his pocket. 🙂
 
Incorrect! Many events in the Bible can be proven through science and excavating discoveries! I am an ex-mormon and almost all claimed historical events in the book of Mormon have been proven wrong! You should educate yourself on the matter before remarking!
And yet, there is no independent testimony that Jesus performed his miracles. We only have the bible which was written long after the events mentioned. All is based on faith.

With the book of mormon we have 11 witnesses to the book of mormon who never denied what they saw and never denied their testimony.
 
No Joan Baez, but the Cathedral choir did sing.

I wasn’t there. A friend of mine who went to BYU, and was baptized on the same night I was, said it was a ironic moment to be sitting a few feet from Pres. Monson with a rosary in his pocket. 🙂
With a rosary in his pocket…the nerve…a mormon prophet with a rosary…that’s a disgrace! He is commiting a grave sin…how could he do such a thing…!! Having a rosary from the church of the devil!!

Sounds stupid doesn’t it. This is what I experience from the catholics on this board 🙂 when I post here.
 
en.fairmormon.org/Word_of_Wisdom

She is right, it is a promise. But the word of wisdom as I said involved over time.
I think you are a little confused! You cannot be Mormon and Catholic! One is an occolt and the other is the christian church handed down from Christ! They go against each other and practicing Mormonism makes you an heretic and unchrist like. I was once foolish enough to be Mormon and am now Catholic (after a I recieved a college education on christianity) There is nothing to compare between the churches. They do not believe in the same Christ and God. The Mormons believe that God was once a man like us and that Christ was given the gift of Godhood after his good deeds. They also believe that a man can become a god and they believe in Joseph Smith who wrote that any other belief is an abomination!
 
I think you are a little confused! You cannot be Mormon and Catholic! One is an occolt and the other is the christian church handed down from Christ! They go against each other and practicing Mormonism makes you an heretic and unchrist like. I was once foolish enough to be Mormon and am now Catholic (after a I recieved a college education on christianity) There is nothing to compare between the churches. They do not believe in the same Christ and God. The Mormons believe that God was once a man like us and that Christ was given the gift of Godhood after his good deeds. They also believe that a man can become a god and they believe in Joseph Smith who wrote that any other belief is an abomination!
I think that I need some booze…:crying: :tanning:
 
With a rosary in his pocket…the nerve…a mormon prophet with a rosary…that’s a disgrace! He is commiting a grave sin…how could he do such a thing…!! Having a rosary from the church of the devil!!

Sounds stupid doesn’t it. This is what I experience from the catholics on this board 🙂 when I post here.
Monson didn’t have the rosary, my friend did. Monson probably had a little bit of change and some lint. 😃 He said the Cathedral was a nice building. :rotfl:
 
I think that I need some booze…:crying: :tanning:
No, you need a little better education on your beliefs (not poeples opinions but real study) and allot more prayer! I am sorry but you cannot be both! You should watch on youtube or on DVD ‘The Bible vs. The book of Mormon’ and The book of mormon vs. DNA’ they are verry interesting!
 
Monson didn’t have the rosary, my friend did. Monson probably had a little bit of change and some lint. 😃 He said the Cathedral was a nice building. :rotfl:
I just reread your post with a rosary in his pocket…have you noticed that one can take it the way I did. It seemed that President Monson did have a rosary in his pocket…
 
When I joined the LDS Church at 19, it didn’t seem obviously fabricated to me. The people were by and large wonderful people who lived the precepts of their religion. It was hard for me to imagine how Joseph Smith could have written the Book of Mormon by himself. Mormonism had a lot of natural appeal for a young guy looking for some stability in life. As I grew older and studied, it became clear to me that it was false, but I had to study for quite a while to come to that conclusion.
IWhat did you study to come to that conclusion? I am an adult Catholic convert who is surrounded by these lovely LDS people, and a wonderful LDS ward, who seem so faithful in their practice. By contrast, my local Catholic community is insular and has a lot of dissent and apathy on the one hand, and spiritual pride and judgmentalism on the other. It is hard to resist the desire to join the LDS church and yet I am firmly convinced that Christ is Really Present in the Eucharist. My LDS friends are astonished that I can “fit” so well with them and still yet be so firm in my own Catholic faith. I recite the same mantra all the time, that I love them so much, but that as a Catholic I don’t believe in the Great Apostasy, therefore I don’t believe in the need for restoration of the Gospel, and I am not led to believe the truth of Joseph Smith as a true prophet or the truth of the Book of Mormon. They all, including the missionaries, state that I am the most committed Catholic they ever met.

I really love these people and wish that I could belong to them. I feel sorrow at not being able to believe in their church because I am so very lacking in Catholic community and support. But I am firm in my Catholic faith.

The tension between all of this is driving me crazy, especially as my (completely well-intentioned) LDS friends step up their prayers for me and tell me all about their experiences “confirming to them” that I am supposed to belong to them.

I need to be reminded by some strong former LDS Catholic converts why I really DON’T want to convert (besides the whole guilt thing about heresy and mortal sin - I get all that - I’m not converting to LDS, but I want to be at peace about it because I love the people so much.)
 
I just reread your post with a rosary in his pocket…have you noticed that one can take it the way I did. It seemed that President Monson did have a rosary in his pocket…
Would it be reasonable to believe I said this about Monson, or my Catholic friend?
 
No, you need a little better education on your beliefs (not poeples opinions but real study) and allot more prayer! I am sorry but you cannot be both! You should watch on youtube or on DVD ‘The Bible vs. The book of Mormon’ and The book of mormon vs. DNA’ they are verry interesting!
Hello Jake!

You are coming late to the discussion. You should read my last few posts if possible on the forum.

The mormon apologists have refuted the dvd that you mentioned.

fairlds.org/Bible/Bible_vs_the_Book_of_Mormon_Video.html
 
Would it be reasonable to believe I said this about Monson, or my Catholic friend?
In my mind he was given a rosary by someone…a nice rosary, mother of pearl, for example that he put in his pocket.
 
IWhat did you study to come to that conclusion? I am an adult Catholic convert who is surrounded by these lovely LDS people, and a wonderful LDS ward, who seem so faithful in their practice. By contrast, my local Catholic community is insular and has a lot of dissent and apathy on the one hand, and spiritual pride and judgmentalism on the other. It is hard to resist the desire to join the LDS church and yet I am firmly convinced that Christ is Really Present in the Eucharist. My LDS friends are astonished that I can “fit” so well with them and still yet be so firm in my own Catholic faith. I recite the same mantra all the time, that I love them so much, but that as a Catholic I don’t believe in the Great Apostasy, therefore I don’t believe in the need for restoration of the Gospel, and I am not led to believe the truth of Joseph Smith as a true prophet or the truth of the Book of Mormon. They all, including the missionaries, state that I am the most committed Catholic they ever met.

I really love these people and wish that I could belong to them. I feel sorrow at not being able to believe in their church because I am so very lacking in Catholic community and support. But I am firm in my Catholic faith.

The tension between all of this is driving me crazy, especially as my (completely well-intentioned) LDS friends step up their prayers for me and tell me all about their experiences “confirming to them” that I am supposed to belong to them.

I need to be reminded by some strong former LDS Catholic converts why I really DON’T want to convert (besides the whole guilt thing about heresy and mortal sin - I get all that - I’m not converting to LDS, but I want to be at peace about it because I love the people so much.)
Love and forgive all poeple but keep in mind that the Mormon occolt itself is an abomination. If you are really catholic and knowledgable than you would know that. And if you love these poeple you will give them the charity of truth as the pope has asked proclaiming to them the truths of the catholic church!
 
I really love these people and wish that I could belong to them. I feel sorrow at not being able to believe in their church because I am so very lacking in Catholic community and support. But I am firm in my Catholic faith.

The tension between all of this is driving me crazy, especially as my (completely well-intentioned) LDS friends step up their prayers for me and tell me all about their experiences “confirming to them” that I am supposed to belong to them.

I need to be reminded by some strong former LDS Catholic converts why I really DON’T want to convert (besides the whole guilt thing about heresy and mortal sin - I get all that - I’m not converting to LDS, but I want to be at peace about it because I love the people so much.)
The mormon faith is a good faith. Don’t let the people here get you down. This is not reality. Reality is in the real lived experience that you are now experiencing. Mormons who live their faith and catholics who live their faith have much in common. Just enjoy the commonality and appreciate that you have mormon friends. And remain firm in the catholic faith, if you wish.

But here, some people are too dogmatic but then again I am sure that most of these people are nice as granma’s apple pie in person.
 
The mormon faith is a good faith. Don’t let the people here get you down. This is not reality. Reality is in the real lived experience that you are now experiencing. Mormons who live their faith and catholics who live their faith have much in common. Just enjoy the commonality and appreciate that you have mormon friends. And remain firm in the catholic faith, if you wish.

But here, some people are too dogmatic but then again I am sure that most of these people are nice as granma’s apple pie in person.
I for one unabashedly speak the truth whether I’m online or offline.
 
Incorrect! Many events in the Bible can be proven through science and excavating discoveries! I am an ex-mormon and almost all claimed historical events in the book of Mormon have been proven wrong! You should educate yourself on the matter before remarking!
Yes many can. But not all. And not all beliefs Christian have, while consistent with the Bible, are “proved” by the Bible (or science) or can be deduced from the Bible (or science). That’s all I was pointing out.
 
IWhat did you study to come to that conclusion? I am an adult Catholic convert who is surrounded by these lovely LDS people, and a wonderful LDS ward, who seem so faithful in their practice. By contrast, my local Catholic community is insular and has a lot of dissent and apathy on the one hand, and spiritual pride and judgmentalism on the other. It is hard to resist the desire to join the LDS church and yet I am firmly convinced that Christ is Really Present in the Eucharist. My LDS friends are astonished that I can “fit” so well with them and still yet be so firm in my own Catholic faith. I recite the same mantra all the time, that I love **them **so much, but that as a Catholic I don’t believe in the Great Apostasy, therefore I don’t believe in the need for restoration of the Gospel, and I am not led to believe the truth of Joseph Smith as a true prophet or the truth of the Book of Mormon. They all, including the missionaries, state that I am the most committed Catholic they ever met.

I really love these people and wish that I could belong to them. I feel sorrow at not being able to believe in their church because I am so very lacking in Catholic community and support. But I am firm in my Catholic faith.

The tension between all of this is driving me crazy, especially as my (completely well-intentioned) LDS friends step up their prayers for me and tell me all about their experiences “confirming to them” that I am supposed to belong to them.

I need to be reminded by some strong former LDS Catholic converts why I really DON’T want to convert (besides the whole guilt thing about heresy and mortal sin - I get all that - I’m not converting to LDS, but I want to be at peace about it because **I love the people **so much.)
You should not feel sorrow for not belonging to their church. You should thank God that you don’t. The sorrow should be directed to them as they have rejected Christ’s true Church.
Notice what I have put in bold above. You talk about the “people” and “them” and how nice they are. It’s not about “them”, it’s about their church and it’s false teachings. The problem with these “nice people” is that they are willing to place many souls in jeopardy by spreading their false teachings based on a man and not Jesus Christ. I don’t find that “nice” at all.
 
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