Why are they still protesting? What do they want?

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About how small black business owners are targeted.
You do know money not color keeps businesses afloat.
How did I say black business owners were targeted?
And I do know money keeps businesses afloat.

And I surely know that the white community has a heck of a lot more capital for investing than the black community does based on disparities in career and income. (Look up the stats at BLS.gov)

Not only that, investors aren’t looking in the places where they would typically find opportunities to invest in minority/women owned businesses.

Checkmate.


At the very time that broad economic productivity is critical to strengthening the economic foundation of the nation, the growth potential of minority-owned businesses is being severely hampered. Across the nation minority-owned businesses face the obstacles of access to capital, access to markets and access to social networks, all of which are essential for any business to increase in size and scale.


Now, please cite two solid resources supporting your pov of the non-existence of racial inequality and race based disparities in the United States
 
That the tactics that are used by some further causes a divide.
Do you not agree? We already know the police man was an idiot

Looting businesses does not form the opinion of most that they’re well formed citizens. Its outrageous and a disgrace
 
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The bible. We are to love each other equally. Give
All you have and Follow me. The phaorasis (sp)protested against Jesus.
Huh look what happened there.
By looting and violence it adds a nail to His Holy
Cross.
 
How do you think this is Holy in Gods eyes? WhenGod created us all equal? Why O why
Lord do people separate themselves by protests like this? We are to love one another
 
It could be Black officer stepped on white man’s throat. What would happen then?
We are all called as Catholics not to live in this mess of a world and pray and pray for victims.
 
The bible.
Please cite credible sources that support your pov that in the United States there are no racial disparities nor inequalities.

The Bible does not mention the US, so therefore it is not a credible source.

I went to fundamentalist baptist christian school as a child (yuck)) and trust me, I could use your Bible to show you some very racist viewpoints that support ideologies of “the Negro is cursed with the mark of Ham and that it is God’s Will for the Negro to be under submission to the white slave-master”-- the fundamentalist viewpoints of my racist, God-fearing teachers; not my povs.

The need to use the Bible as a cited source leads me to think that you are of the belief that we are all equal as children of God, but some of us are more privileged to enjoy equal status than others.
 
Well, here is a little good news from that article…

On October 20, 2017, President Donald Trump issued a proclamation which officially designated October 22 through October 28, 2017 as National Minority Enterprise Development Week.[8][9]

On October 24, 2017, President Trump recognized minority-owned businesses in the Oval Office during National MED Week, when he welcomed winners of the National MED Week Awards with Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross and MBDA Acting National Director Christopher A. Garcia.[10][11]
 
And I went to a diverse Catholic school. Not Bible based more traditional mantillas for all.
Here in my world with several children the only reference I can give you is that God created everyone equal. I hope and pray that most Catholics feel the same.
When I see Black lives matter’-pehaps they were not fully inline with church teaching. From an outsider it really sends the message that these folks feel less than which is a shame. Maybe in other states idk.
Not here.
 
The need to use the Bible as a cited source leads me to think that you are of the belief that we are all equal as children of God, but some of us are more privileged to enjoy equal status than others.
Could you please clarify: Is your understanding of the word “equal” in the context of this topic synonymous with “equal outcomes for everyone (i.e. ensuring that those who are presently not as successful as others have exclusive opportunities to improve their positions)”, or “equal opportunities for everyone (i.e. everyone “plays by the same rules”, and some will end up being more successful than others, whether by skill or by chance)”?
 
Well, here is a little good news from that article…
even more good news

At this very critical time, MBDA will support the minority business community with the deployment of federal funding under sections 1107 and 1108 of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act, which was signed into law by President Trump on March 27,2020.

(Bold by MBDA on the agency website, italics mine)

https://www.mbda.gov/page/mbda-and-cares-act-funding
When I see Black lives matter’-pehaps they were not fully inline with church teaching. From an outsider it really sends the message that these folks feel less than which is a shame.
BLM isn’t in-line with the church. I can’t speak for how another person feels or does not feel shame.

However, I can state that I have heard, directly out of the mouths of black people in my community, that as long as there are racial disparities and injustices tolerated in this country, they as black individuals, take it at face-value that they as a demographic of people are considered and treated by the current power structure, people of other races, and by institutions as “less than”.

And that “less than” is the ultimate reason for the protests and likely in part, the reason for the riots and looting.
Not here.
Got it.
I hear you. I read you differently now since you explained your pov.
But sometimes we have got to say
"stop it" and "no more"
while refusing to tolerate injustice as Christ bearers.

Just Because.

We are all children of God
… deserving…
the complete respect
of our HUMAN DIGNITY.
“equal”
For people in the United States, “equal” as in equal standing in the application Constitutional rights and liberties.

If some persons are more equal than others, we end up with cases like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. A person is given due process of law per the Constitution, and both of the black individuals named above were denied that due process, which appears to occur in greater numbers for black individuals.

I say appears because of inadequate reporting methodologies used to compile statistics. However, the number of incarcerated black individuals is significantly disproportionate for the population and indicates deeper societal equality issues.
 
You are on point. God gives dignity to all equally.
Our Lord Jesus Christ and Our Mother Mary knows what’s in the hearts of all.
Perhaps one day we will realize that we are all one.
The world is a weird and bizarre place.

Love your sister in Christ
Katie
✝️
 
Jesus had some big dreams. For all of us to be perfect as the Father is perfect, for us to be one as He and the Father are one. Are those quantifiable?
Yes, they are. We’ll find out all the fine details at a little thing called the Final Judgement. Now relate that analogy back to the protestors.
 
Hopefully, in the form of an insurance check since it is a part of doing business.
Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can comment–my husband says that vandalism by rioting or mob action is usually NOT covered by insurance. 😲

If this is true, then all these businesses that have been destroyed will have to deal with it themselves, either closing forever, raising funds from kind people, or taking out loans.
 
I think a monster factor is black fatherhood. In Mississippi, 4 of 5 black babies are born to unwed women. That kid isn’t going to have the solid launch pad I had growing up. It’ll have fewer chances for success and the margin for shocks and error will be much less generous than the one I enjoyed.
I agree with this.

But one of the problems is that many women, especially black women, insist that “I don’t need a man! I can do it myself!”

This feminist mantra certainly inspires women to take steps to become more knowledgeable about matters that in the past, have been done by their husbands; e.g., get a job and earn money, manage money and investments, do the taxes, pay bills, do simple home repairs, purchase and maintain a car, etc.

I will admit–and I’m ashamed of it–that I rely HEAVILY on my husband for all of these things other than working in my job. When something in the house breaks, I call for him! I’ve never been good with my hands (other than on the piano!), and I generally have no clue about how to fix anything.

I think that this is definitely changing. Both my daughters are very handy, take care of their money and cars (my married daughter is in charge of family finances in her home, and generally are able to live independently without needing a man to do much of the “heavy lifting.”

HOWEVER…I think many black women have taken this mantra to a different level, by choosing to bear children and NOT invite the man into the childrearing or homemaking. Almost every black woman I work with is a single mother, and most of them work in hospital jobs that do NOT pay a wage that pays all their expenses–they are forced to rely on various government and private programs to make ends meet.

Also, most black women that I know do NOT consider pursuing a legal route to collecting child support money from the father(s) of their children.

It’s not that they are ignorant about these things. They are just determinied to do it on their own, without a “man.” Many black women with children live with other black women and children, which is a good thing for everyone, but it means that the children grow up without a constant male influence by the choice of the mother. What kind of society does this create?

I will not participate in charities that encourage a black woman with children to not include the father of the children in their lives.

Finally, years ago, I heard a wonderful speaker (can’t remember which one), say that the best way a woman of any color can get out of poverty is to get married. Statistically, the poorest people in the United States are single women, and the next-poorest people in the U.S. are minor children of single women.

Obviously, getting married can be a tragedy if the husband is an addict, criminal, abuser, or generally a bounder. But if a good man is available, that could make a real difference for many women and their children.
 
Yet the very race that helped make this nation awesome are relegated to one month of historical focus when they should be incorporated into the daily mainstream of US history during the academic year.
I agree that American history should be given more attention in schools all the time, not just during a specific month.

I also think it’s appropriate to have a Black History Month. HOWEVER…

THAT MONTH SHOULD NOT BE IN THE DEAD OF WINTER!!! (Currently in the U.S., February is Black History Month.)

Time and time again, year after year, events scheduled for Black History Month in our city and many cities in the Northern U.S. have been CANCELLED because of extreme winter weather!

Blizzards, dangerously low temperatures, dangerous wind-chill, many inches (or even feet) of snow, icy roads (black ice), and the SHORTEST days–it’s dark by 5:00 p.m.!!

And February is also the SHORTEST month–what’s up with that?! Is Black History not worth a full 30/31 days?!

The dead of winter is just a terrible time to have a month devoted to ANYTHING other than sitting home and watching the playoffs leading to the Super Bowl!

I just read that in the United Kingdom and in the Netherlands, Black History Month is celebrated in October. Now THAT makes sense!–gorgeous weather in most parts of the U.S. (although it can get cold and snowy up in the very Northern states). It’s still light outside in the early evening, and kids aren’t yet sick of school
It’s a beautiful month!

I think a lot more people would get involved with Black History Month if it were held during a month that is actually a little easier weather-wise. I think that whoever is in charge should speak up and get this changed.

I’m sure that there are various historic events or birthdays of famous African Americans that are given as the reasons for holding Black History Month in February–but c’mon, surely EVERY month has some event or famous African American that we can honor with a whole month of activities promoting Black History!!
 
Interesting points.

Just as a minor observation, I believe December has the shortest days in the northern hemisphere as it is the month in which the solstice occurs.

For the next time it comes up during trivia night at the bar.
 
“Equal” has no real definition in that context, hence the power to endure as an ideal. It’s somewhat malleable.
 
And you feel this way because human beings have value and worth. They are made in the image of God. (I think maybe people of color might have something to say about this if you asked them.)
What is that last line supposed to mean? I realize we don’t know each other and tone and meaning don’t always come across clearly, but it sounds like you’re suggesting I need to be told that people of other races have value? If so, you missed my point. If those defending protests and even riots believe that, they would have no hesitation in telling the world exactly what is wanted or needed.
This is what one group wants.

8 Can’t Wait

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Cities that enact these eight use-of-force policies can reduce police violence by 72%. Look up your city and contact your mayor now.

I appreciate that this organization has a specific list of demands and none of them are the “cray-cray” found on the BLM website. I think even the most robust of boot-lickers can agree to some of these, maybe even most. I think they’re quite reasonable.
Thanks for posting. I haven’t read it, have no idea if I would agree with the list or not, but I appreciate that someone is answering the question with specifics.
You can rant all you want.
An empty can makes the loudest noise
So to take part in a discussion is now to ‘rant?’ To point out that specifics are needed in order to measure results is to ‘rant?’

And when I lay these out you resort to insults? Is that really appropriate on any board, let alone a Catholic forum?
 
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