Why do anti-abortion signs

[Mommyof02green]

Pax tecum! That’s exactly why those signs are used. Your children saw the truth of abortion, and while it is bad that they were so young and saw something that graphic, it proves the evils of abortion because even at the age of 4, your children recognized that they were babies and that it was wrong for them to be “cut up”.

Yes and walking into a bloody crime scene they would recognized that guns kill. However, they know that guns kill and have never seen a bloody crime scene.

I think it’s possible to teach YOUNG children the effects of abortion with out showing them bloody cut-up babies. That’s all, that just my opinion and my point of this thread.

I believe that as a parent I have the RIGHT to educate my children in Faith and Morals. I believe that as a parent it is MY JOB to teach my children about sex, birth control and abortion when they are ready for it. I believe that as a parent I have the RIGHT to teach them at their age level and where they are emotionally ready.

My children were not emotionally ready to see such graphic images. period.

That’s what is upsetting to my children and I. They were not emotionally ready for such graphic images.
We are the type of family that blocks and monitors everything our children watch and hear on T.V. We don’t watch the NEWS with the kids around. To find out what’s going on in the world hubby and I read the paper or news web-pages. If we do watch the news on TV then it’s the 10:00 pm News, the one that comes on after the kids are in bed and long asleep.

We watch and monitor our language around them. We want our kids to be kids. We don’t want them to have the ‘worries’ of adulthood, at this YOUNG-AGE. We want them just to be kids, we just want their only worries to be: IS Mom going to get mad that I ate a worm? Or what is Mom going to say now that I’m all muddy?

Why should my kids, who are 4 and 5, be worried about babies being “cut up”?

 

[hasikelee]

I’m not sure if this is the right forum; so if it needs to be moved I understand.

Why do anti-abortion signs have to be so graphic?

My children innocents were destroyed this morning.

I am curious, have you shown your children pictures or drawings of the Crucifixion?

 

[Mommyof02green]

I am curious, have you shown your children pictures or drawings of the Crucifixion?

I’m glad you asked.

Well we go to church every Sunday and Holy Day. Right there in front is a life-size crucifix. The crucifix that hangs in our church is NOT “bloody”.

We have a crucifix in our home. Here is a picture of the crucifix that I have in my home: catholicfamilygifts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2201

My kids know that Christ was nail to the cross. They know that his hands, feet, side bled. We have watch movies/cartoons about Christ and His passion. In a less-graphic way: amazon.com/Greatest-Adventures-Bible-Easter-Story/dp/B000BVM1V4/sr=1-16/qid=1163866925/ref=sr_1_16/102-9728003-2585733?ie=UTF8&s=dvd is just an example of the type of movies my kids have seen.

Now I have my kids seen Mel Gibson’s “Passion of the Christ”? No and they won’t and not for some time.

The USCCB rating of the Mel Gibson’s film is an A-III. Which means “Adults”: nccbuscc.org/movies/topten/topten2004.shtml it was given an A-III rating because of the graphics, because of the blood. I love the movie, and it is something I look forward to sharing with my kids when they are OLDER. I know that the movie rating was for “Adults” however I know that matured and emotionally stable adolescence will and have done well with the movie. However, it is not a movie for YOUNG Children. There are other movies out there that they can watch and see that show things in a “less-graphic” way.

Again, I am not hiding the truth from my children. I’m just reaching them at their emotional level. My Children are not ready for such graphic images. They have seen and comprehend the truth. They have seen and know of Christ passion; they just have seen it in a “less-graphic” way. In away that that I feel is suitable for their age level and emotional level.

 

[valient_Lucy]

I’m glad you asked.

Well we go to church every Sunday and Holy Day. Right there in front is a life-size crucifix. The crucifix that hangs in our church is NOT “bloody”.

We have a crucifix in our home. Here is a picture of the crucifix that I have in my home: catholicfamilygifts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2201

My kids know that Christ was nail to the cross. They know that his hands, feet, side bled. We have watch movies/cartoons about Christ and His passion. In a less-graphic way: amazon.com/Greatest-Adventures-Bible-Easter-Story/dp/B000BVM1V4/sr=1-16/qid=1163866925/ref=sr_1_16/102-9728003-2585733?ie=UTF8&s=dvd is just an example of the type of movies my kids have seen.

Now I have my kids seen Mel Gibson’s “Passion of the Christ”? No and they won’t and not for some time.

The USCCB rating of the Mel Gibson’s film is an A-III. Which means “Adults”: nccbuscc.org/movies/topten/topten2004.shtml it was given an A-III rating because of the graphics, because of the blood. I love the movie, and it is something I look forward to sharing with my kids when they are OLDER. I know that the movie rating was for “Adults” however I know that matured and emotionally stable adolescence will and have done well with the movie. However, it is not a movie for YOUNG Children. There are other movies out there that they can watch and see that show things in a “less-graphic” way.

Again, I am not hiding the truth from my children. I’m just reaching them at their emotional level. My Children are not ready for such graphic images. They have seen and comprehend the truth. They have seen and know of Christ passion; they just have seen it in a “less-graphic” way. In away that that I feel is suitable for their age level and emotional level.

I agree. And I don’t think you can compare a child veiwing a picture or statue of a Crucifix with a graphic picture of an aborted bay that has been cut up.
Personally, I would have been terrified if I had known, at 4 or 5 years old no less!, that some mothers choose to kill their children, and have them killed and cut up. I would have lived in fear of my own mother every day for the rest of her life! After all, if some moms do that to their children before they’re born, there’s no good reason on this earth that my mom wouldn’t do that to me after I was born!

 

[Karin]

I’m glad you asked.

Well we go to church every Sunday and Holy Day. Right there in front is a life-size crucifix. The crucifix that hangs in our church is NOT “bloody”.

We have a crucifix in our home. Here is a picture of the crucifix that I have in my home: catholicfamilygifts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2201

My kids know that Christ was nail to the cross. They know that his hands, feet, side bled. We have watch movies/cartoons about Christ and His passion. In a less-graphic way: amazon.com/Greatest-Adventures-Bible-Easter-Story/dp/B000BVM1V4/sr=1-16/qid=1163866925/ref=sr_1_16/102-9728003-2585733?ie=UTF8&s=dvd is just an example of the type of movies my kids have seen.

Now I have my kids seen Mel Gibson’s “Passion of the Christ”? No and they won’t and not for some time.

The USCCB rating of the Mel Gibson’s film is an A-III. Which means “Adults”: nccbuscc.org/movies/topten/topten2004.shtml it was given an A-III rating because of the graphics, because of the blood. I love the movie, and it is something I look forward to sharing with my kids when they are OLDER. I know that the movie rating was for “Adults” however I know that matured and emotionally stable adolescence will and have done well with the movie. However, it is not a movie for YOUNG Children. There are other movies out there that they can watch and see that show things in a “less-graphic” way.

Again, I am not hiding the truth from my children. I’m just reaching them at their emotional level. My Children are not ready for such graphic images. They have seen and comprehend the truth. They have seen and know of Christ passion; they just have seen it in a “less-graphic” way. In away that that I feel is suitable for their age level and emotional level.

cant agree with you more…

 

[Mommyof02green]

I agree. And I don’t think you can compare a child veiwing a picture or statue of a Crucifix with a graphic picture of an aborted bay that has been cut up.
Personally, I would have been terrified if I had known, at 4 or 5 years old no less!, that some mothers choose to kill their children, and have them killed and cut up. I would have lived in fear of my own mother every day for the rest of her life! After all, if some moms do that to their children before they’re born, there’s no good reason on this earth that my mom wouldn’t do that to me after I was born!

This is what I’m somewhat dealing with yesterday and today.

My children are worried that someone is going to “cut-up” their NEW baby cousins.

They have a cousin that is only 3 months old and a cousin that is only 2 week-old. They are worried about their cousins; they are worried that someone is going to “cut them up”.

My children may also be having a hard time with the images they saw, because right now they don’t like talking about “blood”.

My hubby is having surgery on Monday and last week (A week ago today) he was talking about how he had to have some blood work done. He was not graphic, he just told our 12 year-old niece that he had to go to the Drs today and have some “blood work” done. That was all my husband said, nothing graphic, just he went to the Dr today and had some “blood work” done.

My son, turn to him and said: Daddy, please don’t talk about blood because it make me sad, it makes me think about our cats.

Our cats died because they had been hit by some cars. Just hearing the word blood had that kind of effect on my son one week ago. So I’m sure you can imagine what I’m dealing with yesterday and today.

They did not “hear” about bloody babies that were all cut up, but they “saw” bloody babies. They don’t like “hearing” the word blood because it makes them sad. How do you think they felt seeing it?

 

[bear06]

However, I will answer and say that I would only do that if it were “necessary”. I would only do it if it were a life or death situation.

You’ve acutally just made my point. Abortion is a life or death situation!

However, I do know that the police was called and we stayed upstairs waiting for the police to come or the burglars to leave…

Maybe I should have made a narrower description. It’s a 2 bedroom appartment. I’m not waiting to find out if that person intends to do me harm. I’m trying to point out the urgentness of those women going into the clinic to kill their children vs. worrying about my children being scared.

It just my opinion that there are better ways. I just sharing all that I have ever seen in MY AREA.

Yes, but quite clearly there are people who are indicting graphic sign holders.

Death is Death: I just look at and see the “less-graphic” pictures and think why aren’t images like that used? Why do the people around MY AREA have to shout at these women and tell them they are going to hell? Why aren’t they helping these women? Why don’t they tell them were to get help?

The point of using these pictures are to make them react like your children! The mothers of these children should be repulsed and scared. It’s a repulsive and scary thing and they, for the majority, don’t realize it.

So they are confused, they don’t understand how if a Mommy and Daddy love each other and God had help them get a baby, why the Mommy, Daddy or the Drs. “cut-up” the baby. They wanted to know if the Dr wanted to “cut them up” when they were babies. It was a hard day for me, and I’m sure the next few days are going to be hard too.

Sure I’m angry. I’m angry that the picketers were there yesterday. However, would I be angry if I had another way of out of the hospital parking lot? No. If I had an option to avoided them, I would of avoided the picketers and left the hospital a different way. Not for my sake, but my kids sake.

Does that mean I’m hiding the truth from my kids? No of course not, I would and will share these things when they are older. I would have shared those things when we had the “sex talk”. As far as children goes the “sex talk” and “sex education” is best done in the home. It is my opinion that abortion is apart of sex education.
I would of and still will share with my kids in my home, when I felt they are ready.

I just think my biggest problem is that yesterday I was forced to share things with my kids that I didn’t feel they are ready for. Judging by their responses I know they were not ready for.

Maybe I’m angry because of where the protesters were standing. I had no other way to go, I could not avoid it yesterday. I couldn’t protect my children from those images.

I really do feel for you. It’s a tough topic and I think that we all want to protect our childrens’ innocence. If it weren’t a life and death situation we were talking about, I’d be all for them never seeing signs like that.

 

[bear06]

Yes and walking into a bloody crime scene they would recognized that guns kill. However, they know that guns kill and have never seen a bloody crime scene.

Ahhh. A crime has already occurred with a bloody crime seen. We can still prevent the abortions. These are scheduled murders not random ones. Not only that, these are legal!

I think it’s possible to teach YOUNG children the effects of abortion with out showing them bloody cut-up babies. That’s all, that just my opinion and my point of this thread.

 

[bear06]

I agree. And I don’t think you can compare a child veiwing a picture or statue of a Crucifix with a graphic picture of an aborted bay that has been cut up.
Personally, I would have been terrified if I had known, at 4 or 5 years old no less!, that some mothers choose to kill their children, and have them killed and cut up. I would have lived in fear of my own mother every day for the rest of her life! After all, if some moms do that to their children before they’re born, there’s no good reason on this earth that my mom wouldn’t do that to me after I was born!

I explained to my children rather quickly what the signs were all about. I let them know that we, as God, believe that all life is precious and were there to save lives. If you live a life filled with God’s teachings then children have the capability of understanding that you live for God and wouldn’t do anything so evil.

 

[Mommyof02green]

The point of using these pictures are to make them react like your children! The mothers of these children should be repulsed and scared. It’s a repulsive and scary thing and they, for the majority, don’t realize it.

Do you honestly believe that they would not react to a picture of a living baby in the womb? Most women I know just want to hug and hold every baby they see. You don’t think that seeing a blown up picture of a Living Baby in the womb would stop them from getting an abortion?

I really do feel for you. It’s a tough topic and I think that we all want to protect our childrens’ innocence. If it weren’t a life and death situation we were talking about.

You’re right it’s about LIFE and Death!
So why aren’t pictures of LIFE shown? Why is only pictures of death?

 

[Mommyof02green]

Like I said, it’s a sad state but your children can now pray for these babies who might be aborted and you can tell them that those awful signs are there to show mommies what will happen if they choose to have an abortion. Again, it’s unfortunate that the pro-lifers in your area don’t choose to yell offers of help to these women.

Again why should my 4 and 5 year old have these kind of worries?? I don’t understand, why I should have them ‘grow-up’ so fast??

 

[Mommyof02green]

I explained to my children rather quickly what the signs were all about. I let them know that we, as God, believe that all life is precious and were there to save lives. If you live a life filled with God’s teachings then children have the capability of understanding that you live for God and wouldn’t do anything so evil.

Do you believe that the the only way to teach children that ALL life is precious is to show them pictures of post-aborted babies?

Do you believe that the only way to teach them that abortion is evil is to show them pictures of post-aborted babies?

 

[bear06]

Do you honestly believe that they would not react to a picture of a living baby in the womb? Most women I know just want to hug and hold every baby they see. You don’t think that seeing a blown up picture of a Living Baby in the womb would stop them from getting an abortion?

I honestly believe that women going into the clinic, if they believe it looks like a baby at all, don’t believe that abortion looks the way it does. They don’t want to think about the horror. While I think that some are moved by seeing a picture of a child in the womb I think more are moved at seeing the graphic pictures. I’ve seen this effect live and in person on more than one occasion.

You’re right it’s about LIFE and Death!
So why aren’t pictures of LIFE shown? Why is only pictures of death?

 

[bear06]

Again why should my 4 and 5 year old have these kind of worries?? I don’t understand, why I should have them ‘grow-up’ so fast??

Sigh! I’ve said this before. If it comes to a child being killed and my children being scared, I pick my kids being scared. It’s nice to be in the position to always put our children first but when you’re dealing with another child about to be killed, it’s not always possible. There’s no hope of recovery from death.

 

[bear06]

Do you believe that the the only way to teach children that ALL life is precious is to show them pictures of post-aborted babies?

Did I ever say that?! I’m simply saying that probably the majority of those who are very active in pro-life activism have tried many ways and found the graphic signs to be most effective. Why do you think that people make the choice to use them? Because they like them? No way. There’s still one that literally brings me to tears.

What I am promoting here is that people need to do what they find effective to save babies from death. If it’s graphic signs or children in the womb they should do it without reprisal from others who don’t like their methods. If your children are traumatized don’t, if possible, expose them to it. If they are exposed, explain the reality the best you can but don’t get mad at those who are making an effort.

 

[Mommyof02green]

Sigh! I’ve said this before. If it comes to a child being killed and my children being scared, I pick my kids being scared. It’s nice to be in the position to always put our children first but when you’re dealing with another child about to be killed, it’s not always possible. There’s no hope of recovery from death.

Sigh here too! Because I just don’t understand way MY kids need to be exposed.

It’s just in my heart of hearts I believe there is a better way. That’s all. We are just going to keeping going circles, so I think we should leave it where it is…

You don’t see anything wrong with the graphic pictures being blown up for everyone and anyone to see… I do!

I think they should be used but in a different format. I think we should protect the innocent of the children. You believe as long as your saving the life of another child it’s okay.

I just block what my kids visually see on the T.V. and the Internet, most web-pages that have abortion pictures have warnings about the graphics and you have to click on the link to see the pictures. Even on priest for life web-page you don’t see the graphic pictures unless you want too.

I guess I want the same thing while out and about in public with my kids.
I also express how I few the topic of “abortion” as part of “Sex Education”.

I believe that it is my permanent right to educate my children about sex, birth control, and abortion. I believe it’s my right to do it the way I see fit and at my children age level and emotional level. I should not be forced to teach them something that I felt they were not ready for… also we weren’t at a abortion clinic yesterday we were at the hospital visiting the sick.

 

[Mommyof02green]

If your children are traumatized don’t, if possible, expose them to it. If they are exposed, explain the reality the best you can but don’t get mad at those who are making an effort.

That’s what I’m MAD about really. I didn’t have a way to avoid it. I was at the hosiptal visiting a six relative. We were leaving the hospital and the only way out of the parking lot was to go pass the picketers.

 

[bear06]

That’s what I’m MAD about really. I didn’t have a way to avoid it. I was at the hosiptal visiting a six relative. We were leaving the hospital and the only way out of the parking lot was to go pass the picketers.

I find it very hard to use the picketers you saw as an example because I don’t believe screaming at someone that they are going to hell is going to help. So, let’s say for example, it was Father Pavone outside holding the signsl. Is this priest supposed to stop holding graphic signs that have an effect on people or use signs with a lesser effect because some people with children might see them?

I can’t agree with this even if they were my kids because what’s more important than my children being traumatized are those babies being saved.

If you believed that these graphic signs clearly save more lives would you be for them?

 

[Karin]

I find it very hard to use the picketers you saw as an example because I don’t believe screaming at someone that they are going to hell is going to help. So, let’s say for example, it was Father Pavone outside holding the signsl. Is this priest supposed to stop holding graphic signs that have an effect on people or use signs with a lesser effect because some people with children might see them?

I can’t agree with this even if they were my kids because what’s more important than my children being traumatized are those babies being saved.

If you believed that these graphic signs clearly save more lives would you be for them?

I am against those signs being used if there is the chance of a young child seeing them.
I would not want my 3y/o to see them PERIOD! Who is going to pay for the counseling for my son who was traumatized by seeing thse photos…the protestors!!!

 

[bear06]

I am against those signs being used if there is the chance of a young child seeing them.
I would not want my 3y/o to see them PERIOD! Who is going to pay for the counseling for my son who was traumatized by seeing thse photos…the protestors!!!

So if you knew that those signs would stop a baby from being killed but your son would be traumatized you’d still be against it?!