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Henning
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They had terrible health care back then, so that’s incredible!
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distracted
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God let him become Catholic before anyone else
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Glorfindel
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I have seen stats that are pear reviewed from JOHN HOPKINS, I have not seen in the study ANYTHING about Catholics living longer, IT DID SAY, that overall Christians (Protestant/Anglican/Orthodox/Catholic) who attend regular worship services (defined in said study as at least 3 times a Month), what it seems to point to is this as people age, they get more prone to depression, HOWEVER communal activities (Churches being in focus here) helps alleviate this, along with the mental and physical stimulation. In turn they are more likely to be better nourished (a bane of the elderly even in the wealthy USA, they can afford to eat, they don’t “feel” like it. These things have a “positive” snowball effect, hence, preliminary studies point to longer lives of Christians, esp. women. They have better, mental, and physical health. Pax.
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Um, hello… Catholics can go to Mass every day…
so it stands to reason that if people live longer the more they attend “church”… daily Mass attendees would live the longest…
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Glorfindel
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Most don’t, and according to the JH study your point is moot.
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blossom02
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment
I don’t know if this young lady was catholic but she smoked until she was 117.
I don’t know if this young lady was catholic but she smoked until she was 117.
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i read that she smoked till she was 100…
i believe she smoked filter-less cigs… European cigs, in any case - she was from France…
Those filtered cigs are the most un-healthy…
and actually nicotine, in small doses (but not smoked ??), is supposed to be beneficial… i believe that when it is combined w/ red wine (?), it is good for stimulting some part of the brain… can’t recall details… but i seem to recall that it is a good thing to stimulate that part of the brain (just can’t recall exactly why … Sorry).
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don’t know who Jh is… but in any case, i already know that most don’t…
Most Catholics aren’t even Catholic, objectively speaking.
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Pixie_Dust
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Let’s consider that whole passage, as it seems Paul knew that, while he desired to be with Christ, it was better for those under his Christ-given authority that he remain on earth:
21For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
22But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose.
23But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better;
24yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake.
25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain and continue with you all for your progress and joy in the faith,
26so that your proud confidence in me may abound in Christ Jesus through my coming to you again.
27Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
So to die is personal gain, in that we will be in Heaven; but to live is to be Christ to the world and bring more souls to Him. St Paul acknowledges that wishing to die and be with the Lord, while a very good thing, is also selfish when he knows he still has work to do on earth before the Lord calls him Home.
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Glorfindel
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John Hopkins…
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eucharisteo
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Family Heritage
Protestant: 10 siblings
Grandpa died at 85 - faithful
Grandma died at 90 - faithful
Mom died at 56 - non-practicing
Catholic: 4 siblings (3 living)
Grandpa died at 69 - faithful
Grandma died at 77 - faithful
Dad died at 61 - traditional Catholic -???
Wife’s family all Protestant: 8 siblings
Father-in-law died at 88 - Elder/Bishop - Good man - faithful
Mother-in-law 83 - living - faithful
Wife - converted to Catholicism - Mom doesn’t know she converted…
When you do research you find a pattern. Sounds more genetic that religious affiliation from my perspective.
Protestant: 10 siblings
Grandpa died at 85 - faithful
Grandma died at 90 - faithful
Mom died at 56 - non-practicing
Catholic: 4 siblings (3 living)
Grandpa died at 69 - faithful
Grandma died at 77 - faithful
Dad died at 61 - traditional Catholic -???
Wife’s family all Protestant: 8 siblings
Father-in-law died at 88 - Elder/Bishop - Good man - faithful
Mother-in-law 83 - living - faithful
Wife - converted to Catholicism - Mom doesn’t know she converted…
When you do research you find a pattern. Sounds more genetic that religious affiliation from my perspective.
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like i said, i don’t recall where i got my statistics… but i am an intellectual snob, as it were, when it comes to my reading and don’t read anything that is not reliable… don’t waste my time…
Catholics live longer only GENERALLY speaking… That, of course, does not mean that a Cathlic will always out-live a Protestant… Not hardly. It is just a general thing…
And even though its not in the Bible, it is true that the good die young… The good and (i bleieve) the “weak” … I believe God takes people at a young age sometimes because he knows that, down the road, they could weaken and lose the faith and end up in Hell… He cares more for their eternal destiny (as you know) than there “thing” here on EArth…
Anyway… I do everything i can to live healthy… but i don’t necessarily wnat to live vrey much longer… sometimes i even ask the Lord to take me now… get so fed up with the way the world is… (worships sex and $… etc…)…
But i just say Your will be done… (about my longevity or lack of it…)
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eucharisteo
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Curiosity…what brought up the questoin to begin with?
And do you think you should be an intelectual snob? Am I not intelegent enough for your taste?
[not being personal here…I’m a happily married man just trying to be funny because of the litany of open statements you made.]
I sure know what you mean…Take me now… the world is very difficult sometimes to put up with. But it is our cross to bear for the sake of the cross…spreading the gospel…by our lives. Sacrifice for others…and our selves…constantly doing penance in hope of salvation.
Statistics can be twisted oh so bad. And considering that Catholics make up a 5th of the worlds population…it may be accurate.
But here’s something to kick aroudn…to give an example of misused statitstics. 50% of all marriages in in divorce. How many first time marriages stay together?
And do you think you should be an intelectual snob? Am I not intelegent enough for your taste?
[not being personal here…I’m a happily married man just trying to be funny because of the litany of open statements you made.]I sure know what you mean…Take me now… the world is very difficult sometimes to put up with. But it is our cross to bear for the sake of the cross…spreading the gospel…by our lives. Sacrifice for others…and our selves…constantly doing penance in hope of salvation.
Statistics can be twisted oh so bad. And considering that Catholics make up a 5th of the worlds population…it may be accurate.
But here’s something to kick aroudn…to give an example of misused statitstics. 50% of all marriages in in divorce. How many first time marriages stay together?
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eucharisteo
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78% of first time marriages last a life time. Presented by a preacher in a sermon on the subject trying to get us to stop thinking that we only have a 50/50 chance of a marriage lasting…the world and many clergy in the church erroniously use these statistics I believe/hope with good intentions. But what they have accomplished is playing into the hands of the secular society and discouraging…frightening…people from even trying to get married… now the number of people not getting married has exceded the number that get married. FEAR! is a useful tool utilized by Satan…and I’m afraid that our clergy and many in the Church are playing in the hands of the enemy by not understanding statistics…
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i was just wanting to know if the Eucharist was the reason Catholics live longer… i tend to think so… I mean… what better Food could one ever hope to ingest??
just tyrin to make the point that i don’t read trash… that’s all…
hmm… didn’t say antyhing like THAT… don’t know you enough to say… besides, i believe everyone is intelligent in some way or another… Even retarded people have talents and strengths…Not sure why you say this??Am I not intelegent enough for your taste?
No… percentage-wise, Catholics generally live longer…
That’s why i stay un-married… don’t want to go through anything like divorce… The man who marries me is stuck with me for LIFE!
(No man can deal with me so i hardly need to worry…
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i am afraid of getting married… not because of divorce cause i don’t believe in divorce & wouldn’t marry someone who does (my husband would HAVE to be a devout, practicing Cahtolic)…
I am afraid for other reasons… Like the fact that the only guys i am ever attracted to are… good on the outside… kinda psycho on the inside… or what have you…
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Laurent_LUG
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I’m not catholic , nor protestant ,
but to me , this question is a real weird one !!
More explanation needed , please !!
Salute & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:
– Laurent LUG (.@…), october 24, 2008
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ChristianKnight
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Could be a coincedance? or could be that catholics eat a healthier diet?
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rbarcia
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You sound like a Pharisee
Luke 18
9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
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