Why do Christians reject the Talmud?

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You sound like your common misogynist, calling women “annoying and demanding” and a “pain in the neck for their husbands.” Plus, none of that answers my question. Try again. If G-d made Mary without sin, why couldn’t He with all creation? What made Mary so special that she was conceived without sin? I thought the doctrine of Original Sin had it that all humans, since Adam, were born with or into sin. Did Mary pre-exist Adam? Should she then be counted in the trinity as another pre-existent being? and if not, how did she come into this world without sin? You make absolutely no sense regarding this issue.
 
You also misrepresent Judaism, we have so many stories of heroic women who are not “annoying their husbands day in, day out.” You should just check out the Talmud the next time you visit a library, or perhaps reread Tanakh sometime for a better assessment of the female character.
 
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I am sorry, I do not represent Judaism by any means. I did not intend to generalize the hostility of orthodoxy toward women beyond its scope either. But it is fact that rabbis do not shake hands with a woman even if the woman would be a high ranking politician in official trip representing a whole country! This kind of attitude would really prevent you from recognizing the holiness of a Jewish woman like the Virgin Mary.
 
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Basically, Jewish Christians do not reject the Talmud. There aren’t that many Messianic Jews but early Christians were a mix of Christian Jews and Greeks. Likely, the Talmud, which in my limited understanding, is an expansion of the law (or more explanation?) by Jesus’ discussion was larger than the message needed to be. He wanted a simple clear understanding. He spoke to many different groups of people, explaining that he only had a little time to teach them. He wanted basics to be clear. He did say that God gave Moses 10 commandments because the Israelites would not simply love each other and then God only gave 10 Commandments. Not hundreds. He emphasized love-- the only commandment was, love the Lord Thy God above all else and love your neighbor as yourself. Emphasizing that a neighbor was anyone–any person, not just a friend. Enemies too. Back to basics. But also, he was bringing something so new that we would understand the law through the Holy Spirit also. Many Christians follow the Magisterium of the Church, another form of expressing this law of love. This is what has grown in our Church, just like the Talmud grew. As ever, people need laws and guidance to explain how to love. So. That’s it. Not a rejection. Just another form. And conscience is everything.
 
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What does he have to do with anything?
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Yigal Amir killed the peace oriented prime minister Yitzhak Rabin in 95. Rabin wanted truce and peaceful coexistence with the Aboriginals of the land. He was considered an enemy by extremist rabbis and yeshiva schoolboys.

Yigal Amir’s murderous act was a follow-up in the spirit of Baruch Goldstein, who committed the mass murder at the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron in 94, killing 29 Palestinian Muslim worshipers and wounding another 125. This atrocity was not committed against Jews, but against the Aboriginals of the land. The current political leadership of the Zionist Israel benefited much from these extremist fanatics who turned the peace process into a murderous process of war, terror and unbridled oppression.

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Wow, you do NOT understand Judaism very well if you think that’s the reasoning behind it. No one shakes hands for a totally DIFFERENT reason! Leviticus 18:6, 19 (such actions are considered derech chibbah, see Rambam, Hilchot Issurei Biah 21:1) commands us not to do anything which could slightly LEAD to sexual immorality. Our chazal compare this to a Nazirite who is forbidden to drink wine or eat grapes, and hence, shouldn’t enter a vineyard (Shabbat 13a, B.T.). Note, however, that aside for adult siblings, one can shake hands or affectionately touch one’s spouse and close blood relatives (parents, grandparents, children and grandchildren), as well as doctors (for professional reasons), etc. So no, Judaism is NOT saying that women are in any way inferior to men.

Note also that there is a subtle difference between a firm handshake, a seemingly innocent gesture, and one which goes just a little too long, conveying something sensual. Judaism sees both men and women as sacred and significant, it also wants us to respect their privacy and not embarrass them, so we should reserve such intimacy for those who are most important in our lives, i.e., our loved ones, lest we outdo the currency of something powerful.
 
I know about all that, but thanks. And by the way, I do NOT support those people, those who use violence instead of negotiation. In Yigal Amir’s case, he did it because his teachers placed Rabin under a din rodef (this was the second time in the modern century since Trotsky), which is why I laugh when some say that religious Jews were behind communism and want world domination.
 
I also disagree with you in the myth that Israel supports such violence. I myself am both a religious Jew and Zionist. Its ridiculous to blame Israel for everything, sorry.
 
the whole Torah is comprised of 613 commandments (Rambam’s count). The ten are just the most famous. Jesus himself taught his followers to keep each law, and not one yod would disappear before heaven and earth passed. Talmud is comprised of two: Mishnah and Gemara. both teach halacha (Jewish law).

We also have a similar statement by Hillel: “That which is hateful to you do not do to your neighbor. This is the whole of the Torah, The rest is commentary. Go and learn."
 
honestly, I support life over the penalty, but Chekhov did make a good point in that one story of his!
 
Interesting argument with regard to the Catholic belief in the lack of original sin of Mary. I don’t recall exactly what Protestants say about this, but I think most believe Mary has original sin as well as any other human being despite her special status. What sayest thou, Catholics?
 
Contrast Judaism to the Puritans: Reverend Benjamin Wadsworth wrote in 1712 in “The Well-Ordered Family” that women were inferior to men since “she was made after him.” I know this doesn’t mean all Christians are like this.
 
Lol, sorry. I personally dislike him for his attitude on us as a people, but maybe we need Ridley Scott to bring him home?
 
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