WHY do Muslims perform such Shames ?

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Rodrigo_Bivar said:
Yes, we should all accept that Islam is in the ascendancy and must therefore cower before it in dhimmitude. After all we don’t want to hurt the feelings of the Muslims. We do want to engage them in constructive dialogue where they tell us how things are going to be and how we have to accept their rules.

The Muslims know that Christianity is a false religion because the Bible was corrupted and that the Trinity doctrine is untrue: Jesus never taught that the Trinity is comprised of Allah, Jesus and Mary. So there’s no point to your following this Christian religion that is clearly corrupted from the true Islamic religion that Adam and Abraham were prophets of. Just thank Allah’s mercy that Muslims do not kill you all and permit you to live in dhimmitude.

After all, Islam is the religion of peace. You have a problem with living in peace?

Allalahdhdbar
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correct me again if I misunderstood you. You as a Muslim or Jew telling this:

**Yes, we should all accept that Christinity is in the ascendancy and must therefore cower before it in Westernised/globalised slavery. After all we don’t want to hurt the feelings of the Christians and even the Jews. We do want to engage them in constructive dialogue where they tell us how things are going to be and how we have to accept their rules.

The Christians know that Islam and even Judaism is a false religion because the Koran is not from Jesus Christ and that the Oneness doctrine of Islam and Judaism is untrue: Islam and Judaism never taught that the Jesus is God or God’s Son. So there’s no point to your following this Islam or Jewish religion that is clearly corrupted from the true Christian religion that Adam and Abraham were prophets of. Just thank Jesus’ mercy that Christians do not kill you all and permit you to live in Westernised/globalised slavery.

After all, Christianity is the religion of peace as anybody can see clearly by knowing crusades and Church history and how Martin Luther was honored with great respect in Catholic Church by ignoring and tolerating his staunch criticism. This is the kind of tolerance Christians need nowadays. You have a problem with living in peace with fellow non-Catholic Christians. Have you forgot what Jesus taught?**

this what you are saying eh?
 
Darrel said:
Pro_Universal,

Do you agree with this? If not maybe you should straighten him out in a PM? Or is this consistant with all Islam?

-D
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He’s being sarcastic. I’m sorry he fooled you into taking him seriously. He’s joking with you to try and irritate everyone.
 
I am not a Muslim (yet) and I’m not a Jew.
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pro:
He’s being sarcastic. I’m sorry he fooled you into taking him seriously. He’s joking with you to try and irritate everyone.
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What do you mean, buddy? When I agree with you I’m being sarcasting?

When I agree with you I’m joking to try and irritate everyone?

What did I say that you did not/would not say? Did you not say I had no right to interpret Islam because I’m not a Muslim? Did you not say that we should accept what a Muslim says about his religion because who should know Islam better than a Muslim? Did you not accuse me of bashing Islam for showing its nature?

So when you say such things - it is the truth, but when I say exactly the same I’m being sarcastic?

Tsk tsk. You have hurt my feelings, pro. That is a no-no.
 
rodringo,
I am still waiting for your reply to my post number 66 b’cause i want to know if I understood you correctly.

thnx
 
MLuther said:
rodringo,
I am still waiting for your reply to my post number 66 b’cause i want to know if I understood you correctly.

thnx
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Dear Martin,
The problem is that you changed it all around - instead of Muslims you put in Christians - instead of Islam you put in Christianity.

That is clearly beyond the scope of discussion as everyone knows you can persecute Christians but you mustn’t persecute Islam. Everyone knows you can bash Christianity but you mustn’t bash Islam.

Reciprocity is not a virtue according to Islam. Empathy is not a cognitive function for Muslims, especially if aimed towards religious minorities.

So alas, I am not able to help you regarding post 66 as you have cast it. Put it in the form where Islam/Muslims perceive themselves to be victims and Christianity is perceived to be corrupt/wrong/evil then maybe I can help you.

Aalalalaahababab
 
Originally Posted by guardian1
btw,in iraq, it’s perfectly legal to kill someone who is publicly violating sharia, i.e. not wearing hijab, etc
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No. That’s not true. Perhaps you meant Iran?
 
pumpqeen said:
Shameless Deeds of Muslims

When the Danish cartoonist drew muhammad’s picture, muslims flared up and committed violence and murder but when Iran’s cartoonist drew pictures to make fun of the holocaust, muslims gave out prizes to the winning cartoonist.

When Bali bombers were arrested in Indonesia for killing hundreds of innocent souls, they were subsequently freed on grounds of ‘amnesty’. But when aussies were caught for having drugs in their suitcases, they were executed within weeks.

Whenever, militants are killed in large numbers by the UN or Israeli forces, you always see the muslims screaming that these were innocent civilians that were killed even though most of these corpses were laid out bare to show them as militants. When the Palestinian militants strap their kids with bombs and rifles to the border and these get killed before they could detonate bombs, the muslims similarly accuse the Israeli of killing ‘innocent’ children. Yet they get no remorse killing thousands and thousands across Europe and America.

What does the world even put up with such a thoroughly evil religion? A religion that has no truth in it and no lack of lies. Perhaps we were all too busy to notice this growing infestation of evil, but it is certainly still not too late to put a stop to this. Refusing to act or objecting to act against it, is now instead, truly an act of stupidity.

No muslim outrage: grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/002911.html
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Truly a profound question you raise but unfortunately not one that can be easily answered. What is even more egregious than the violent acts perpetrated by the extremists is our willingness to teach Islam in our schools while suppressing everthing that can even remotely be considered Christian. While the ACLU has aggressively suppressed anything and everything Christian, they have not done nor said one thing against the proliferation of Islam in our public schools. They take issue with such suggestive colors as red and green at Christmas time but have no problem with students staging hypothetical Jihad’s in the classroom. You ask why the world puts up with Islamic fascism? I wonder why we Americans put up with the liberal goal to destroy our country from within. That’s why this midterm election is so important and why the liberals will do or say anything to regain power. The liberals can smell victory and are chomping at the bit to ratchet up their ‘destroy America’ agenda. While we can’t stop the insanity to which the rest of the world has all but succumbed to, we can exercise our right to vote and keep the insanity to a minimum in our country.
God Bless America!
 
Chris7 said:
Truly a profound question you raise but unfortunately not one that can be easily answered. What is even more egregious than the violent acts perpetrated by the extremists is our willingness to teach Islam in our schools while suppressing everthing that can even remotely be considered Christian. While the ACLU has aggressively suppressed anything and everything Christian, they have not done nor said one thing against the proliferation of Islam in our public schools. They take issue with such suggestive colors as red and green at Christmas time but have no problem with students staging hypothetical Jihad’s in the classroom. You ask why the world puts up with Islamic fascism? I wonder why we Americans put up with the liberal goal to destroy our country from within. That’s why this midterm election is so important and why the liberals will do or say anything to regain power. The liberals can smell victory and are chomping at the bit to ratchet up their ‘destroy America’ agenda. While we can’t stop the insanity to which the rest of the world has all but succumbed to, we can exercise our right to vote and keep the insanity to a minimum in our country.
God Bless America!
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If what our government is doing now constitutes minimum sanity, then we’re doomed. I can either vote based on your “Red and Green liberal ACLU” argument, or I can vote based on what I’ve seen happen to this country in the last 6 years.
 
pro_universal said:
Sure, they’re just doing what Jesus commanded them to do:

Luke, 19:27: “Bring my enemies before me and slay them.”

Since you say Muslims are the enemies of Christians, the Serbs were following Jesus’s command, and that’s why they all cried in the streets and carried pictures of Milosevic into Churches when he died.
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I hope you were just tyring to make a point here, because your conclusion is false.

On a side note: Serbs (Orthodox) also killed Croats, which are Catholics, let’s not forget that. And Croats side by side with the Muslims fought against the Serbs.
 
Valke2 said:
If what our government is doing now constitutes minimum sanity, then we’re doomed. I can either vote based on your “Red and Green liberal ACLU” argument, or I can vote based on what I’ve seen happen to this country in the last 6 years.
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It’s not a pretty picture is it? I’m an angry conservative who feels that the conservative issues have been compromised by the Republicans attempt to appease the liberals. Conservatives need to be as committed to a conservative agenda as the liberals are committed to theirs. Did the liberals seek appeasement after winning the abortion issue? Heck no, they took it one step further with partial birth abortion. If the Republicans maintain control of the House and Senate as I pray they will, the message should be clear to them: They’ve got two years to support the conservative base by turning this country away from the inevitable doom at it’s present course or their reign of power is over. The problem with that is I know we won’t like the alternative. :eek:
 
Chris7 said:
It’s not a pretty picture is it? I’m an angry conservative who feels that the conservative issues have been compromised by the Republicans attempt to appease the liberals. Conservatives need to be as committed to a conservative agenda as the liberals are committed to theirs. Did the liberals seek appeasement after winning the abortion issue? Heck no, they took it one step further with partial birth abortion. If the Republicans maintain control of the House and Senate as I pray they will, the message should be clear to them: They’ve got two years to support the conservative base by turning this country away from the inevitable doom at it’s present course or their reign of power is over. The problem with that is I know we won’t like the alternative. :eek:
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Republican and Democrats are flipsides of the same turd!
Both are government addicts and both are liars.
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One wonders why the African female aborigines who walk about stark naked never get raped, but the muslim males think that modern women are “uncovered meat” inviting rapes?

Clearly, the corruption of the minds of muslims are terrible. So, terribly bad that they blame the women for their own filthy lusts. Blame others for pointing out the truth. The world should put a stop to this evil religion.

Americans who do not support the war in Iraq are only of 2 types. The selfish type that do not want to suffer for the noble aim of annihilating evil but instead wants the fleeting pleasures of frivolity, and the type that are totally brain damaged.
 
It’s amazing you wish to fit so much misrepresentation into such a small post! Do you guys at the mosque have bets or something?
pro_universal said:
Oh how convenient! While denying any attempt by Muslims to explain verses with context, you claim context as a defence yourself!
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a) it’s not ‘convenient’ it’s clearly a parable. Jesus gives the reference in those terms.
b) when I cited Islamic texts on women, war etc, I also cited Islamic commentary on them. You didn’t engage me in debate on that at all. The closest you’ve come is to attack a non-Moslem commentator in an amazing feat of self-defeating argument that still brings joy to anyone who reads it (recall Robert Spencer?)

so in reference to a) all you have to do is cite Christian commentary that interprets it that way.
pro_universal said:
You have said so repeatedly.
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Come up with the evidence. Your discredited word won’t wash.
 
One of the major problems of muslims is they are UNABLE to differentiate between instructions and story telling/parable in the bible. They mix up the two such that they confuse themselves.

They’re also unable to differentiate between prophets and non-prophets. That’s why they think allah is the same being as the god that spoke to Moses.
 
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