Why do non catholics dislike Mother Mary?

[izoid]

You judgments about me have been way off! but I forgive you:thumbsup:

This post was not directed towards you. I do not know where you got that impression? It was part of a conversation I was having with Dokimas.

 

[izoid]

If I stayed in the Catholic church, I don’t believe I would have accomplished what I have, do what I do and feel what I feel. I feel closer to God then I ever have felt. I believe this is what he wanted for me. See I was going to be a priest, but while learning I disagreed with a lot of the teachings and left. Many years later I’m a minister preaching to the elderly. I was never comfortable speaking to crowds but with God’s help I can do it and I do do it. I believe this is what he had instore for me. He didn’t want me to be a priest but a minister. If the Catholic church is the true church, why did he not make me a priest? Why make me a minister if it goes against the true church?

Maybe God was not calling you to be either a priest or a minister? Did you ever investigate the deaconate in the Catholic Church?

 

[Dokimas]

Are you aware of the horrible crimes committed by protestants? Do you know the punishment for not going to church in the early American settlements? The Puritan settlements. He who lives in glass houses should not throw stones.

If you are admitting your church is not perfect, then it’s not a matter of throwing stones. It’s a matter of admitting failure. I doubt that any non-catholic Christian thinks their church is infallible in the way you think your church is. We all live in glass houses. Just some don’t realize it.

 

[tweetymom]

Yes, and in this case, Tweety has let go of most of what her Catholic Faith has taught her to believe. Are you justifying her behavior? What if you were a Catholic by day and a Protestant by night? What would you think?

on ce again thank you for yet another blessing. I am not here representingthe CC. Just Jesus

 

[tweetymom]

I can promise you that every post of yours that I see where you claim to be Catholic, yet post something contrary to the Catholic faith I will respond to quickly.

No, Doki, this is not the case. There is no problem with Tweety, or anyone here, sharing their beliefs.

The problem arises when Tweety posts '“beliefs” that are anti-Catholic or non-Catholic while claiming to be Catholic. This is the part that is misrepresenting.

For some reason she is unable to accept that she has left communion with the Catholic Church. She erroneously believes that it is acceptable to pick and choose which doctrines to embrace. This is an error.

I think you misunderstood, Doki. the problem is that she claims to be Catholic. In making that claim, one makes the claim that they embrace the teachings of the Church. We have all observed from day one that she does not.

No, belonging to a Catholic parish does not make you Catholic. What makes a person Catholic is embracing the Teachings of the Catholic faith.

This is not a problem, unless you claim you are Catholic.

PM me with his name and address, and I will send him our concerns.

His respect for your feelings may not necessarily equate to approval of your attitude, or maybe even your misrepresentation of yourself here on CAF.

You did explain it, and the elements of RCIA you teach can be taught by a non-Catholic.

it is great that you are here on CAF expressing your thoughts. Since your thoughts are not Catholic, it is a stumbling block when you claim that you are.

Yes, you do Tweety. If you want to claim you are Catholic, then you will represent the Catholic faith. I will agree, though, your posts are a dismal testimony to Catholicity.

She is not "way out of line’. In fact, you do try to pursuade people that the Teachings of the Church are not true because you cannot find them in your bible.

This being the case, perhaps you will consider refraining from telling people that you are Catholic, as it gives the wrong impression. Why do you think Jesus is glorified when you claim to be in unity with Catholic faith and you are not?

With all due respect, I don’t think this is true. So far as I can tell, Tweety was never taught about the Catholic faith, and never embraced it. Such a person cannot be accused of falling away, or “letting go” of the faith.

When a person claims to be Catholic, they are proclaiming that they agree with Catholic doctrine and dogma.

And Mr. Gee thank you for all the blessings you have bestowed upon me,great!

 

[tweetymom]

This is the most shocking thing about this person. I’d be interested to know what parish she is teaching in. And can only pray that she is teaching what the Catholic Church teaches and that it isn’t her point of view especially about birth control. She is so contrary to the Catholic Church in her views I am just shocked to hear this. I am happy to see other Catholics here that have her number. And can hopefully make her understand. I am also glad that at least in this thread she has finally stopped calling herself a Catholic in her bio.

Now Tweetymom welcome to my ignore list.

And thank you for added Blessings

 

[tweetymom]

If I stayed in the Catholic church, I don’t believe I would have accomplished what I have, do what I do and feel what I feel. I feel closer to God then I ever have felt. I believe this is what he wanted for me. See I was going to be a priest, but while learning I disagreed with a lot of the teachings and left. Many years later I’m a minister preaching to the elderly. I was never comfortable speaking to crowds but with God’s help I can do it and I do do it. I believe this is what he had instore for me. He didn’t want me to be a priest but a minister. If the Catholic church is the true church, why did he not make me a priest? Why make me a minister if it goes against the true church?

God Bless you on your Journry.

 

[tweetymom]

Mary made that decision. She chose not to sin, just like all of us can. We can choose not to sin, and walk in the power of the HS, following His commandments.

1 Timothy 2:1: First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men

James 5: 16: Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects

I do not understand why you believe these scriptures don’t apply to you.

The Apostles taught that there is One Body, and we are all members one of another. Death does not separate us.

This is grist for another thread. The passage states “call for the elders (presbyters/priests)”.

It is true we can confess our sins to anyone. To those who have received the Apostolic faith, it makes more sense to confess them to the one who has been authorized by Christ to remit them.

Why would Mary be less qualified to intercede for us than any devoted child of God?

Your comment seems to imply that when others intercede for us, we are not "going direct to the Father through Jesus’. I don’t think this is the case.

Dog gone it Tweety! I thought, when you revised your affiliation, you had agreed to stop misrepresenting yourself like this! I guess I was rejoicing too soon.

You are not Catholic in faith. You may masquerade as a Catholic at your Catholic parish, but your faith is not Catholic. A Catholic embraces the teachings of the Church. You willfully, forcefully, and persistently repudiate those teachings. You are Protestant.

Onmce again thank you for another blessing.

 

[tweetymom]

No, you are not Catholic, Tweety. Instead, you give scandal to the Catholic Church by misrepresenting the faith.

However, you are right, all who are united to the Head (Christ) are brothers and sisters, and Children of God.

To observe that you represent yourself hypocritically here on CAF is not a way to “kick you down”. It is and exhortation given in love that you are creating a stumbling block to the faith. Yes, it is showing Christ’s love not to stand by in silence while a sister is falling into error.

You are right that you dot have to agree. At this time, you are a rebellious subject of the Roman Pontiff.

you do not show the love of Christ by misrepresenting the Catholic faith, or yourself.

You were baptized Catholic, but you were not catechized Catholic. You left the Catholic faith and became a Protestant. the fact that you now participate once again in a Catholic parish does not make you Catholic, any more than sitting in your garage would make you a car. You have repudiated the Teachings of the Catholic faith, and therefore, separated yourself from communion with the Church.

It would make me happier if you would stop claiming to be Catholic because it is a misrepresentation of yourself.

Once again thank you for the blessing.

 

[tweetymom]

This is a simple semantics issue rev kev. In this context, the word "to pray’ just means “to ask”. We ask for their prayers. It is an archaic use of the word “pray”. It is still used in some legal venues, but is most often found in middle English (like Shakespeare).

No, Doki. The Scriptures, like the Apostles, make no distinction between members of the body that are here on earth, and those who have passed into eternity. We are all members of the One Body. I think I missed the post where you dispatched the verses in Revelation about the saints interceding for us.

Yes. It would be wise to assume that none of Tweety’s posts represent the doctrine of the Catholic Church. I realize that sometimes they do, but most of the time, they do not. It is better to err on the side that they are not Catholic in perspective.

Please do not fall prey to Tweety’s disingenuous claims. She does not represent Catholic faith. It is a mystery to those of us that do why she would want to claim to be in communion with a Church that considers her beliefs heretical, but she does.

Once again thank you fo thr blessing.

 

[MyRdmrLvs]

Dokimas, Please…

I posted last night about individualism… Did you get a chance to read it? It was about this time period in humanity as a time of “individualism”… That is why I think protestantism caught on so well. You see, I think Christianity has been swayed by the times, as currently individualism is the economic and social norm of the time.

Back in the day, villages, or cities acted more like common groups… The “individual” was not given more importance than the whole group …

This explains why Catholics consider themselves one body, one spirit in Christ… We are the Church-united, and we see Mary as our mother whom we ask and call on for help like a real mom.

Do you see what I mean? Does this make any sense?

wouldnt she have to be god to hear so many prayers from so many people?

 

[MyRdmrLvs]

You are aware that deliberately misrepresenting your faith is grounds for suspension on CAF right?

I thought I saw you before using the word protestant… Strange.

So this is probably how it has worked for hundreds of years both on a personal level and with whole church bodyies. If you dont agree with everything the pope says then your OUT! that way they can claim that the Holy Spirit guides all Catholics into agreement… threats to silence people who disagree does not show the strength of your positions it shows the weakness.

 

[tweetymom]

So this is probably how it has worked for hundreds of years both on a personal level and with whole church bodyies. If you dont agree with everything the pope says then your OUT! that way they can claim that the Holy Spirit guides all Catholics into agreement… threats to silence people who disagree does not show the strength of your positions it shows the weakness.

You betcha and God Bless.

 

[MyRdmrLvs]

Thank you and I do not hace to assent to you only God. I am a Catholic belong to a Catholic Church. Just do not always agree with everything. I really do not owe you one thing except to show you Christ love for you and I do. God Bless

I see someone has fruits of the Spirit!

 

[tweetymom]

I see someone has fruits of the Spirit!

I try hard to. Sometimes I miss the mark.

 

[Dokimas]

Would it be problematic if she had died and was raised from the dead? If so, why?

All will rise from the dead: some to eternal life with God and many more without God. I’m sure Mary is in Heaven, as I understand things.

 

[Dokimas]

This is a simple semantics issue rev kev. In this context, the word "to pray’ just means “to ask”. We ask for their prayers. It is an archaic use of the word “pray”. It is still used in some legal venues, but is most often found in middle English (like Shakespeare).

No, Doki. The Scriptures, like the Apostles, make no distinction between members of the body that are here on earth, and those who have passed into eternity. We are all members of the One Body. I think I missed the post where you dispatched the verses in Revelation about the saints interceding for us. And your proof is that that’s what the CC believes?

Yes. It would be wise to assume that none of Tweety’s posts represent the doctrine of the Catholic Church. I realize that sometimes they do, but most of the time, they do not. It is better to err on the side that they are not Catholic in perspective. ** I would appreciate it if you stopped trying to bully Tweetymom.**

Please do not fall prey to Tweety’s disingenuous claims. She does not represent Catholic faith. It is a mystery to those of us that do why she would want to claim to be in communion with a Church that considers her beliefs heretical, but she does. I wasn’t asking you. Please mind your business when if clearly is not yours.

I do wish Tweetymom would ignore comments like these. She only must give account to God.

 

[tweetymom]

I do wish Tweetymom would ignore comments like these. She only must give account to God.

Thank you Dokimas I really am trying. God Bless and How is MIL?

 

[Dokimas]

This post was not directed towards you. I do not know where you got that impression? It was part of a conversation I was having with Dokimas.

Repost what you want to say to me and I’ll try to comment.

 

[Dokimas]

Thank you Dokimas I really am trying. God Bless and How is MIL?

Still in need of prayer. At her age and condition, things don’t look good.