And what the Church says is those that wer never fully part of the Catholic Church But either since birth or since becomeing christian are not heretics. Even though the community they belong to May have been started by a heretic and is itself heretical the person is not.
I’m pretty sure the Bible says JESUS is the only one who leads to heaven…not a church. So you’re saying that the Christians who live in countries where there is no Catholic Church like some tribes in Africa or what not won’t go to heaven because they aren’t Catholic? Because that is what your statement is saying. The thief that was being crucified was definitely not a part of the Catholic Church yet because he believed in Christ he is in heaven.
I have no idea where that came from because that same day my pastor did a sermon on abortion. She said she wouldn’t want to listen to them because he would probably just talk around the subject and make it seem like he thinks it is wrong but at the same time it isn’t condemned. I showed her my notes that I had taken in church that day and the title was Why Abortion Is A Sin. I don’t know how much more clear I had to make it for her that we don’t condone abortion for any reason.Is that in the Catechism? If not, where is it found?
The Methodist church broke away from the Church of England. They consider themselves to be a “branch of Catholisim.” Even calling themselves “lazy Catholics.” Their belief in the Eucharist is very simular to Catholism.Ok, lets just get one thing straight, The Holy Catholic church is the only true church. It is the only one that leads to heaven. It was the church that was started by Christ all others broke away from the true church because they wanted thing there way not God’s way. If you disagree i don’t care. What I’m saying is true. So have a great day and God bless
I wish people on this forum would worry less about offending people and more about speaking rationally and truthfully. Venting your feelings and prejudices without providing fair and reasoned argument does a disservice to the truth. The fact that it may hurt people’s feelings is pretty trivial by comparison.Ok I may have been a little to straight forward there but most of what i said is very true, well at least to me, sorry if i offended anybody. Its all cool now
I read in the LA Times an op-editorial written by two United Methodist Church ministers who were highly critical of the Catholic Church’s position on abortion.
This is true of some Methodists, mostly intellectuals. The Methodist rank and file do not generally think in this way. Methodism is experiencing something like the 19th-century Anglican “Oxford movement.” It remains to be seen how much long-term effect this movement will have.
It doesn’t say “heresy”; it says “separation”, and it says “separation” for a reason: the person is not an apostate, and heresy has nothing to do with those paragraphs.
Who here said that “Protestants are all Pro-abortion, Pro-this, Pro-that, Pro-sin?”I’m often left astonished at the assumptions made here about Protestants, that Protestantism is really based on the philosophy of “living a life of sin and looking for ways to justify it”.
Fortunately, that’s far from reality. Protestants, in general, simply look for what the Bible has to say on a certain topic (i.e. sola-scriptura). Abortion, to use an example, would be considered a sin on the basis of several passages, most notably, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations” (Jeremiah 1:5). A properly-informed Protestant, in my point of view, wouldn’t hold drastically different opinions from a Catholic on the nature of sin (perhaps disagreeing on birth control, as an example, as it isn’t explicitly alluded to in the Bible).
So why do some Catholics here, and quite a significant number, portray Protestants in such a negative light? If a person lives a life of sin and looks for ways to justify it, they are neither Catholic or Protestant but simply a non-practicing Christian. According to this forum however, Protestantism is synonymous with living the high life
NOBODY said it. The original question was "Why do some Catholics here believe Protestants are all Pro-abortion, Pro-this, Pro-that, Pro-sin?" which is not the same as saying “Protestants are all Pro-abortion, Pro-this, Pro-that, Pro-sin”.
Um I’m pretty sure that the Westminster Confession contains no mention of abortion… can you explain here?
The Golden Rule is central to Christianity, so I don’t understand why they were surprised that a Protestant would be pro-life.
Like the ancient Jews did about the Samaritans?
Well, what I was thinking was a person who lives where most Christians are fundamentalists might be more likely to think that Protestants are all fundamentalists. Or if they live where I do, where a lot are what might be called “liberal” Christians, they might be more likely to mistake that for being what Protestantism is all about.