Why do some Catholics here believe Protestants are all Pro-abortion, Pro-this, Pro-that, Pro-sin?

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JonNC said:
Perhaps so, and since he is banned, one really can’t press him/her further. I can say, as LCMS, that in terms of doctrine, I was more than uneasy with - no, I reject the statement about being built on sand. :eek: Augsburg is certainly not sand.

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Jon, I really have doubts about His/her belonging to the LCMS. I see a kid here that is tring to stir a pot. He was all over the place. Beside to many of us on here that are catholic know to many LCMS on here like you to have taken him seriouly about that. He was called to task rather quickly on it. That and nothing he said would lead me to think he was Lutheran of most any synod. Well maybe the ELCA.
 
oneGODoneCHURCH said:
Jon, I really have doubts about His/her belonging to the LCMS. I see a kid here that is tring to stir a pot. He was all over the place. Beside to many of us on here that are catholic know to many LCMS on here like you to have taken him seriouly about that. He was called to task rather quickly on it. That and nothing he said would lead me to think he was Lutheran of most any synod. Well maybe the ELCA.
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I don’t even know about ELCA. Did the word “troll” come to mind, Scott? 😃

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=JonNC;8034683]Perhaps so, and since he is banned, one really can’t press him/her further. I can say, as LCMS, that in terms of doctrine, I was more than uneasy with - no, I reject the statement about being built on sand. :eek: Augsburg is certainly not sand.
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Nor My DEAR FRIEND, is it the singular TRUTH, that your still seeking *.

Continued Blessings Jon,

Pat*
 
=Mark David;8034795]I know this isn’t the case. Protestants who adhere to Reformed theology, for instance, can be terrified about their “election”, and so will be frightened if they see that their works are bad. Of course, this is all based on a false doctrine - God clearly gave us free will, thus we are held accountable for our works - but it appears to make some Protestants better people, highly moralistic. It didn’t work for me, because I wasn’t feeling the Spirit; sola fide didn’t inspire good works from me - rather the opposite; arrogance and apathy towards others. Everything changed when I came back to the Church for the first time in my adult life.
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Welcome Home my friend!

God Bless you,

Pat
 
Bohm_Bawerk said:
. A properly-informed Protestant, in my point of view, wouldn’t hold drastically different opinions from a Catholic on the nature of sin (perhaps disagreeing on birth control, as an example, as it isn’t explicitly alluded to in the Bible).
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The Church knows, and the reformers knew, that contraception is the mother of abortion.

Catholics don’t always presume Protestants are pro-abortion, but with today’s scientific knowledge of how hormonal contraceptives can have abortficient properties, Catholics can safely believe the supposedly pro-life Protestants who nearly all are pro-contraception, are talking out of both sides of their mouths.
 
JonNC said:
I don’t even know about ELCA. Did the word “troll” come to mind, Scott? 😃

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Yes that is a possibility. Seems that the day he/she came on there were about 3 or 4 different trial members all posting the same kind of thing.
 
mark_a said:
The Church knows, and the reformers knew, that contraception is the mother of abortion.

Catholics don’t always presume Protestants are pro-abortion, but with today’s scientific knowledge of how hormonal contraceptives can have abortficient properties, Catholics can safely believe the supposedly pro-life Protestants who nearly all are pro-contraception, are talking out of both sides of their mouths.
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I’m not sure they are talking out both sides. I do beleive that in the vast majority there are not being given all the info as to make the connection. They are being feed info that directly conoures the connection and inturn have a genuine problem in makeing the correct decission on the issue. Even within the Church you find those that not only will not oppose ABC but actively support it:mad::(, And they are given the complete picture and truth.
 
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. A properly-informed Protestant, in my point of view, wouldn’t hold drastically different opinions from a Catholic on the nature of sin (perhaps disagreeing on birth control, as an example, as it isn’t explicitly alluded to in the Bible).
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Actually friend it is: The penalty imposed by God was physical death:o

The penalty imposed for contraception is SPIRITAL DEATH! It’s a MORTAL SIN and will be judged by God as Such.

Genesis 38: 7-10 "But Er, Judah’s first-born, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” ***But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife he spilled the semen on the ground, lest he should give offspring to his brother. ***And what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD, and he slew him also. :eek:

God Bless.
Pat
 
oneGODoneCHURCH said:
I’m not sure they are talking out both sides. I do beleive that in the vast majority there are not being given all the info as to make the connection. They are being feed info that directly conoures the connection and inturn have a genuine problem in makeing the correct decission on the issue.
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Does my statement ring true if we limit it to Protestants who know better but turn a blind eye?
 
As Anglicans we believe that abortion is wrong. And in any event, how can someone be “pro-abortion”?
 
Cheshangle said:
As Anglicans we believe that abortion is wrong. And in any event, how can someone be “pro-abortion”?
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The same someone could call a fetus a parasite. Or preaching that babies can be aborted with God’s blessing.
 
=Cheshangle;8045908]As Anglicans we believe that abortion is wrong. And in any event, how can someone be “pro-abortion”?
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***Welcome to the FORUM!

“Not being against is FOR” Mark.9: 40 “For he that is not against us is for us”

Were you aware that OVER 50% of Catholic and Christians have been consistantly voting along polotical lines IN SUPPORT of Candidtes who FAVOR Abortions as a “right?”

This has been true for at least the past four Presidental elections:eek:

God Bless you,
Pat***
 
mark_a said:
The Church knows, and the reformers knew, that contraception is the mother of abortion.

Catholics don’t always presume Protestants are pro-abortion, but with today’s scientific knowledge of how hormonal contraceptives can have abortficient properties, Catholics can safely believe the supposedly pro-life Protestants who nearly all are pro-contraception, are talking out of both sides of their mouths.
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Judging by the size of their families, I think that most western RCs use contraception.
 
Bohm_Bawerk said:
I’m often left astonished at the assumptions made here about Protestants, that Protestantism is really based on the philosophy of “living a life of sin and looking for ways to justify it”.

Fortunately, that’s far from reality. Protestants, in general, simply look for what the Bible has to say on a certain topic (i.e. sola-scriptura). Abortion, to use an example, would be considered a sin on the basis of several passages, most notably, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations” (Jeremiah 1:5). A properly-informed Protestant, in my point of view, wouldn’t hold drastically different opinions from a Catholic on the nature of sin (perhaps disagreeing on birth control, as an example, as it isn’t explicitly alluded to in the Bible).

So why do some Catholics here, and quite a significant number, portray Protestants in such a negative light? If a person lives a life of sin and looks for ways to justify it, they are neither Catholic or Protestant but simply a non-practicing Christian. According to this forum however, Protestantism is synonymous with living the high life 😦
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I was a Protestant.

One church would denounce premarital sex, the other wouldn’t. One would denounce abortion, the other wouldn’t. One would praise homosexuality, one wouldn’t…

In the end you cannot judge any one Protestant based on the actions of another because although they all pull from the same Bible they each get their own unique interpretation of that same Scripture. It’s really kind of alarming when you see just how different they CAN be.
 
PJM said:
Actually friend it is: The penalty imposed by God was physical death:o

The penalty imposed for contraception is SPIRITAL DEATH! It’s a MORTAL SIN and will be judged by God as Such.

Genesis 38: 7-10 "But Er, Judah’s first-born, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” ***But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife he spilled the semen on the ground, lest he should give offspring to his brother. ***And what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD, and he slew him also.
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:eek:

God Bless.
Pat

Fact is Catholics contracept at the same HIGH rate as Protestants and non-believers. So according to your reasoning they can’t possibly consider themselves to be “pro-life.” And worst of all I sense they find no sin in it or reason to repent. Correct if I am wrong.
 
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