Our capacity to distinguish morality from legality is not a function of the seriousness of the act, be that measured in moral terms, or legal terms.
Very interesting post, but you need to correct the part I underlined - what you mean is the teaching of your church. In this country, most of us do not accept this teaching from one singular church.
Never safe for the child. One doesn’t need a church to tell them that. When did the Episcopal church decide abortion was okay and what revelation caused them to overturn 500 years of teaching ? Is the truth fungible?
And how would you know about Christ if not from the Bible, and if you know about Christ from the Bible, then I assume you know that Christ is the Son of God, or do you have a different interpretation? And if Christ instituted the Sacrament of Marriage with all of it’s responsibilities, then it becomes clear that is God’s will, so we can definitely know God’s will. It is God who is causing all the development of the conceptus fulfilling all of it’s potential states of growth and development. It is a metaphysical fact that matter can not move itself, or organized itself, it is moved by the Unmoved mover, the Creator of all life. So what is taking place in the womb of a mother is the work of God from conception to birth of a human. As I said before, a soul is the source of all the activity that takes place in a fertilized ovum, the beginning of human life. We are part animals, we possess animal like senses, but we are also part spirit, and that is our nature. And it is not c omplete without both, matter and spirit. I don’t really expect you to change your mind, we each have our own convictions, but we make an account for our beliefs, and understandings, and we derive our understanding and belief from our faith in Jesus Christ, and His representatives dating back to the first Apostles. So the will of God can definitely be known if one is consistent with Divine Revelation, and doesn’t have to wait for further revelation to know the truth about whether a fetus, or conceptus is a human in it’s initial state of existence. No conceptus, no human.
What does personal acceptance have to do with whether the teaching is true, or not. Logical fallacy of ad populum?
Absolutely. But we are no better than Adam and Eve. We still prefer to define morality for ourselves instead of allowing God to do so.
EB, I understand that you and I see things very differently.
I am truly happy that you feel like you understand God’s truth about abortion.
So morality is determined by court? Is that what your church teaches?
What part of “you shall not murder” is not crystal clear?
Is a woman’s body, her own body, or God’s? Did she create it? What do any of us have that has not been given to us, not to do what we wish, but what God desires us to do. Some women have made their bodies false idols to do with as they please, immorality. Not only women but men also. Isn’t this what Christ came to redeem us from.
Love of God, and love of neighbor as Christians, woman’s health and welfare is our business
No doubt there is some overlap between those people of a religious bent who hold the view ensoulment is the key issue and happens “late” in development, and those who support abortion as a moral act.
What are the nature of your endeavours to that end?
I think I recall seeing that before. Some of the comments are absolutely ridiculous, Twilight Zone material.
This isn’t even a religious thing, if someone fails to see that someone’s right to life is the most fundamental of all rights, you’re going up against secular, non-religious, declarations of human rights, such as the the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
If someone says “who are you to say that the right to life is more fundamental than a woman’s right to bodily autonomy”, by all means, point them in the direction of the UN’s charter.
Jesus doesn’t want us to mind our own business if something is evil. We have to say it or be counted guilty of the sin. Thou shall not kill. I know all women who have abortions don’t know what they are doing… some do and do it anyway. Still, it is a sin to abort your baby. Some girls are pressured into it by boy friends, husbands, family, social contacts… what has happened to personal responsibility? A girl gets pregnant for whatever reason she needs to give life a chance. Suppose she doesn’t want to care for it? OK let someone adopt it… Just take responsibility for what has happened. Guys too need to take responsibility. Gee wouldn’t it be easier if we waited to have sex until AFTER we were married??? Who would have “thunk” of that?
That is the whole point. There is no consensus that abortion is evil (although we can all agree that it is undesirable). A majority of the world and its population believes it is not evil and should be permitted. **Jesus never said anything about abortion. So nobody can say with any authority that it is evil. **That is why it is best to wait for Jesus to return to tell us for certain. Until then follow the law of the land and don’t impose your morality on others.
Reading what has been written on this thread, some apparently believe it is not morally different than swatting to death any other creature that Trespasses in our house, or upon our person.
Since when does consensus determine the truth?