Why do you think God allowed Protestantism?

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Nancy and Distracted,

I am joyous at your healings! That is absolutely wonderful. What an incredible experience for anyone to have such a blessing, and what an unending source of gratitude. I have been exceptionally fortunate to actually witness such a healing and I know that they are real and incontrovertible. Blessings on you.

Bindar
 
I’m not sure what the Aramaic was for whatever was translated later as “rock” and “church” in Greek. I know we were not there, and that many things, as proven in the Lamsa translation by an Aramaic speaker, are actually different in context and meaning than we ordinarily imagine. For instance, for where we find the word “Christ” used in the NT, it used to be translated “Healer.” “Camel” in the famous story is clearly seen as “rope.” I have no doubt that Nancy and Distracted (blessing on them) might have a special appreciation for the “Healer” usage, as I certainly do.

Whatever served for the Aramaic translated as “church” may later in the early Greek have simply refered to a household in which the dwellers and their guests had devoted themselves to the teachings of Jesus as they percieved them. It may have had a political overtone unkindly advanced by the higher up “organizers” of what became Catholicism. That is born our by the three centuries of bickering, arguing, mayhem, destruction and even murder that were the history of the early church.

Taking goodness as a guide, it is easy to forsake both tradition and dogma and see the venues in which goodness itself was fostered. Too often, though it may have been different with the common believers, good was not the motive or agenda of the early fathers. That is why I myself tend to agree with older, more established, and empirically verifiable approches than that taken by what, in fact, in its middle history was a prime political institution having little to do with the perception and promulgation of good. Other traditons, older and wiser, have been far more efficacious in that, using attraction, not birth, government, force of arms, and proselytizing, as their safe and sure means.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind and heart that God IS, and the Jesus was the one and only Son. But what that means to me is radically different from anything even remotely postulated by the Church as we know it today, for whatever good it might have done, and however sincere and devoted for whatever reason its followers may be.
 
Detales said:
I’m not sure what the Aramaic was for whatever was translated later as “rock” and “church” in Greek. I know we were not there, and that many things, as proven in the Lamsa translation by an Aramaic speaker, are actually different in context and meaning than we ordinarily imagine. For instance, for where we find the word “Christ” used in the NT, it used to be translated “Healer.” “Camel” in the famous story is clearly seen as “rope.” I have no doubt that Nancy and Distracted (blessing on them) might have a special appreciation for the “Healer” usage, as I certainly do.

Whatever served for the Aramaic translated as “church” may later in the early Greek have simply refered to a household in which the dwellers and their guests had devoted themselves to the teachings of Jesus as they percieved them. It may have had a political overtone unkindly advanced by the higher up “organizers” of what became Catholicism. That is born our by the three centuries of bickering, arguing, mayhem, destruction and even murder that were the history of the early church.

Taking goodness as a guide, it is easy to forsake both tradition and dogma and see the venues in which goodness itself was fostered. Too often, though it may have been different with the common believers, good was not the motive or agenda of the early fathers. That is why I myself tend to agree with older, more established, and empirically verifiable approches than that taken by what, in fact, in its middle history was a prime political institution having little to do with the perception and promulgation of good. Other traditons, older and wiser, have been far more efficacious in that, using attraction, not birth, government, force of arms, and proselytizing, as their safe and sure means.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind and heart that God IS, and the Jesus was the one and only Son. But what that means to me is radically different from anything even remotely postulated by the Church as we know it today, for whatever good it might have done, and however sincere and devoted for whatever reason its followers may be.
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God Bless you Detales, and if your leaving us, come back soon to visit. Love of Christ Nancy Psalms 55:6
 
spankyg said:
This is like asking why did God allow satanism? genocide? murder?

It’s a stupid question.

We all have free will. Those who chose not to follow the one true church, did so, due to the fact that they have free will.
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it is not a stupid question…

i was going to say something else but since you have no respect for me, i figure: Why bother…
 
HI SpankyG, Welcome to CAF, God Bless you, I looked again at the question and Distracted asked Why do you Think, (not why did God allow) it is just an inquiry question not a statement. So do you have any feelings on the matter? I think you are on the right tract,(Free Will). But even if we have free will still something must make it happen dont you think? Like maybe loss of faith, misunderstanding,? To many chiefs and not enough indians? You are Loved Nancy
 
Well, hello again, distracted: Do you mean to tell me, that the Jesus I meet on the street, or at the beach, or at a Bible study, is not my Saviour, but a clever stunt double? Didn’t Jesus tell all of US, that,“Where two or more are gathered in My name, ther I will be also?”
 
distracted said:
Name one or two reasons you think God allowed Protestantism.

I think one reason might be that Catholicism is so… difficult, that maybe God wanted there to be an “easier, softer” way that would lead people to Christ (and He knew that many would then be led to the RC Church)?? Just a thought.

Also, i think that Protestants generally focus on different things than Catholics do, different “aspects” of God, things that are nonetheless very important… like, well… i just think that sometimes they are more… friendly… & i feel they may trust in God’s mercy more than a lot of Catholics…
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Dear Distracted,

Because of our gift of free will God basically allows all things to occur on earth and asks thast we ask Him for the direction and strength to deal with all undesirable things, like the ‘Third Reich’ , murder, rape, accidents, sickness, etc. Or, faiths like Hindu, Buddism, Islam.

Understanding that life on earth is really so short for each of us, God’s allowance, which is His Will, of all activity is nothing in comparison to an eternity in Heaven, which is eternal.
But this is the hardest thing for us to comprehend eternity when we are in finite misery.

May God’s mercy be accepted by all beings.

jpaul1953
 
1beleevr said:
Well, hello again, distracted: Do you mean to tell me, that the Jesus I meet on the street, or at the beach, or at a Bible study, is not my Saviour, but a clever stunt double? Didn’t Jesus tell all of US, that,“Where two or more are gathered in My name, ther I will be also?”
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yes. Jesus was talking to the disciples and not to the world. from the Bible one can see that all who heard the apostles about Jesus came into the Church, the Body of Christ, they did not go their own way and begin building their own churches and preaching whatever they want. in fact those who preach different from the Apostles got rebuked by the Apostles. we are warned of false Jesus, false prophets, false spirits, false gospels. if you are out the Church of the Apostles and do not agree with the teachings of this Church, you are following a false gospel.

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nancy_dalrymple said:
God Bless you Detales, and if your leaving us, come back soon to visit. Love of Christ Nancy Psalms 55:6
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Detales,

Give me the account of where perception and murder and mayhem outline the history of the early fathers of the Catholic Church. To take Christ’s teaching as they perceive. What does that MEAN, perceive as you think, not as you know. So the Pres of Iran perceives that there was no holocaust and the rest of the world does. So he’s right and the world is right.

It looks like the way you perceive things may be the problem. There is only one truth, not a zillion perceptions of this truth.

May God guide you to the truth as it is, not as you perceive!

jpaul1953
 
wisdomseeker said:
yes. Jesus was talking to the disciples and not to the world. from the Bible one can see that all who heard the apostles about Jesus came into the Church, the Body of Christ, they did not go their own way and begin building their own churches and preaching whatever they want. in fact those who preach different from the Apostles got rebuked by the Apostles. we are warned of false Jesus, false prophets, false spirits, false gospels. if you are out the Church of the Apostles and do not agree with the teachings of this Church, you are following a false gospel.

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Here is what confuses me: The apostles did not have all the teachings, doctrines and traditions of 21st century Catholicism. If they showed up today looking for a position in the Church they would be given a difficult time because they were married, they didn’t pray to the saints because they were the saints, no devotion to Mary because they knew her personally, and no mention of celebrating Mass on Sunday. No statues, no Ash Wednesday, no abtaining form meat during lent, no rosary. They worshipped on Saturday, in houses and the communion breakfast was a whole meal. I’m not saying the Church is wrong for doing these things but the apostles knew nothing about Catholic tradition as we know it today but they did have the same gospel. What church would they feel at home with today?
 
33 Multifarious Errors of Protestantism.
For the sake of brevity, anyone who calls himself or herself “Christian”, and who is not Catholic or Orthodox, I have grouped all of the existing tens of thousands* of individual non-Catholic sects under the single title of “Protestant” in this writing. I realize that many would prefer not to call themselves Protestant, but any Christian who is not active in the Catholic Church is making a protest against the only Church which Jesus Christ founded whether they care to admit it or not.
The word protest comprises the first seven letters of Protestant.
I am acutely aware that not all Protestant sects fit the mold of all of what I have listed here, but with tens of thousands of different sects, it is impossible for me, or anyone else, to tailor each topic to each individual sect, while simultaneously keeping the document to a reasonable length.

*World Christianity Encyclopedia, April 2001, a Protestant publication,
lists 33,820 non-Catholic sects with several more being added each and every week.
Flash! The figure for the middle of 2004 has now risen to 37,000, an increase of 3180 in just three years.
The Protestant Personal Opinion Error:
Why are there now well over 36,000 different Protestant sects in the world today?
The answer to that question can be found in Holy Scripture:

“You shall not do as we are now doing; here, everyone does what seems right to himself…”
Deuteronomy 12:8, a verse ignored by Protestants since they do these things.

“In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what he thought best.”
Judges 17:6, 21:25, verses accepted by Protestants.

“Understanding this first: That no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Spirit.”
2Peter 1:20-21, ignored by Protestants.

“They came and said to him, �Teacher, we know that you are a truthful man and that you are not concerned with anyone’s opinion. You do not regard a person�s status but teach the way of God in accordance with the truth…”
Matthew 22:16, Mark 12:14, ignored by Protestants.

“(13) And Jesus came into the quarters of Cesarea Philippi: and he asked his disciples, saying: Whom do men say that the Son of man is? (14) But they said: Some John the Baptist, and other some Elias, and others Jeremias, or one of the prophets. (15) Jesus saith to them: But whom do you say that I am? (16) Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. (17) And Jesus answering said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. (18) And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (19) And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”
Matthew 16:13-19
 
The above verses are a prime example of personal opinions contrasted with doctrinal truth.
In verse 14 through 17, all but one of the disciples had nothing to offer but personal opinions expressed by mere human creatures (as it is read in vs 14, ‘some’, ‘other some’, ‘others’, and in vs 17, ‘flesh and blood’), and ALL OF THEM WERE WRONG, save for one, Simon Peter.
Simon Peter was the only one to receive this revelation from GOD, and in so doing he was the only one to express the truth, by GOD given authority. Since GOD never changes, who would have the audacity to be so bold as to deny that GOD does the same today as He did then, by giving His one representative of authority on earth the fullness of doctrinal truth?

“For GOD is true, and every man is a liar…” Romans 3:4

Now that we know what Holy Scripture has said, what do Protestants, who claim to follow Holy Scripture, do about these verses? All of Protestantism is based solely on personal opinions of men and women, and not on doctrinal truth. “If it feels good for me, then that is all that matters”, so they say. So where does an attitude like this lead them, but to differences of opinion, squabbling, and finally endless splitting of the Body of Christ. Go back and re-read those verses above.
GOD is not concerned with anyone’s personal opinion, but only for those who speak His doctrinal truth.

Protestants attack the Catholic Church by saying there is no need of a Pope. Well, they should look in their own back yard first, because each Protestant acts as his or her own pope. There are millions of “popes” in Protestantism, and all of them are running around claiming that their personal opinion regarding the interpretation of Scripture is the truth. Are there really millions of truths? I thought Holy Scripture said there was only one truth.
Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism, lamented as he said these things after he had seen the damage that individual interpretation of Holy Scripture had done to his movement,
“This one will not hear of Baptism, and that one denies the sacrament, another puts a world between this and the last day: some teach that Christ is not God, some say this, some say that: there are as many sects and creeds as there are heads. No yokel is so rude but when he has dreams and fancies, he thinks himself inspired by the Holy Ghost and must be a prophet.”
De Wette III, 61. quoted in O’Hare, THE FACTS ABOUT LUTHER, 208.
“Noblemen, townsmen, peasants, all classes understand the Evangelium better than I or St. Paul; they are now wise and think themselves more learned than all the ministers.”
Walch XIV, 1360. quoted in O’Hare, Ibid, 209.

So what are they to do?
Scripture has very loudly and explicitly told them what to do and what not to do:
Stop “doing your own thing”.
Stop the “If it feels good for me it must be true” mentality.
Stop the incessant and destructive individual interpretation of Holy Scripture which is forbidden by Holy Scripture itself.
Be obedient to what Scripture has admonished you to do.

So how do they get back to doctrinal truth as GOD demands from all of us?
Truth is one and it is a person. There is only one truth.
To have only one truth you have to have only one authority, the same one authority which was given to Simon Peter alone.
Is the Holy Spirit really prompting millions of Protestants, all of whom are interpreting Scripture for themselves on an individual basis, and with so many opposing viewpoints?
This question leads us to the next topic, that of “The Holy Spirit Told Me”.
The “Holy Spirit Told Me” Error:
There are three “Spirits” from whom we may receive prompting. They are:
  1. The Holy Spirit, the Spirit of truth. 1John 4:6
  2. The human spirit within each one of us. 1Thessalonians 5:23, Hebrews 4:12
  3. The evil or Demonic spirit which comes from Satan, the spirit of error. 1John 4:6
All of Holy Scripture was written by people who were inspired by the Holy Spirit. This being so, the Bible is inerrant. It has to be, as it came to us under the inspiration of GOD.
Psalms 127:1 is Holy Spirit inspired and it says that there is only one Church, the one founded by GOD Himself, and that in all others, the members labor in vain. Isn’t it interesting that teachings of the Old Testament are stressed anew in the New Testament? Ephesians 4:1-6 repeats what is said in Psalms with a list of many “ONES” including only ONE faith in verse 5. These verses have clearly said that the Holy Spirit guides only the one Church which GOD founded, and none other.
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The Protestant Rejection of Authority Error:
“He who hears you, hears me; and he who rejects you, rejects me; and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me.” Luke 10:16
That is authority!
Powerful words from the mouth of Jesus Christ to his disciples, the leaders of His Church.
Those who hear His Church, hear him, is what Jesus Christ said in that verse.
Conversely, those who do not hear his Church, do not hear him. If you are interested to know what will be the fate of those who reject His Church, then read the context in Luke 10:1-15.

Holy Scripture has a lot to say about authority, as to just who has it and who does not, and how important a central authority is to the understanding of truth.
However, Protestants have consistently rejected all authority. They simply rejected what they never could have had from the onset of their revolt. However, rejection of authority is anti-Christian and anti-Bible. Since they have rejected his Church, haven’t they rejected Jesus Christ and the Father as well? Luke 10:16 has clearly told us that they have.

“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.”
Romans 13:1-2

“Obey your prelates and be subject to them. For they watch as being to render an account of your souls: that they may do this with joy and not with grief. For this is not expedient for you.”
Hebrews 13:17
Was Martin Luther and the other leaders of the Protestant revolt obedient as this verse demands?

“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.”
Matthew 18:15-17
So what does this verse tell us as to where the final authority is to be found? What is the name of that Church, since it is still with us? To what Church would you go in order to obey the command of Jesus Christ in those verses if you lived in 110, or 450, or 1025, or 1490? Can you name it?

There are many verses which warn against forsaking GOD given authority regarding His Assembly (O.T.) or Church (N.T.) which He bestowed upon prophets such as Moses
Exodus 3-40, and on the Apostles John 20:21-23, and to their successors, Hebrews 13:7-8, 13:17.
Read of Mariam and Aaron as they complained against the authority of Moses in
Numbers 12:1-15, (3) “Is it through Moses alone that the Lord speaks? Does he not speak through us also?”
GOD became angry with this remark, since He had previously chosen to speak through his one and only father figure, His “vicar” on earth, Moses. Consequently he turned Mariam into a leper.
Read of the rebellion of Korah against the GOD given authority of Moses in Numbers 16, and pay especial attention to what happened to Korah, and to his followers in Numbers 16:31-35.
His ending, and that of his followers is not pretty to say the least.

Which person in which of the now 36,400 Protestant sects has any authority at all?
Who has the over all authority to separate truth in teaching from the pitfall of error?

The rejection of authority is merely a Protestant defense mechanism. Since they obviously knew that they had no authority to begin with, they simply elected to reject all authority. However, their rejection of authority is highly anti-Christian and anti-Biblical, as I have shown.
For those who claim to follow the Bible only, how is it that they cannot see this?
This then leads us into the next topic.​

The Bible Only Error:
Protestants who claim to follow Holy Scripture literally, practice a false man-made doctrine which they have labeled Sola Scriptura or “Bible Only”, a term virtually unknown before the Protestant revolt of the early sixteenth century. In other words, they say that the Bible is all they need or want because they claim it contains everything necessary for salvation. Anything outside of the Bible is immaterial and should simply be ignored or discarded. By taking such a narrow view of salvation history, they have boxed themselves in to a limited knowledge of Christianity. This grave limitation exposes them to increased and compounded error, because for them to believe in anything, therefore, they must be able to find it in the Bible. However, the very doctrine of Sola Scriptura itself, is not to be found anywhere in Holy Scripture, as I have documented in the above two links. That being the case, how could anyone practice it and not be accused of hypocrisy?

"The Lord says, “These people worship me with their mouths and honor me with their lips. But their hearts are far from me, and their worship of me is based on rules made by humans.”
Isaiah 29:13
"Jesus told them, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites in Scripture: ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is pointless, because their teachings are rules made by humans.’ “”
Mark 7:6-7
The fact that the man-made “rule” of Sola Scriptura cannot be found in Scripture proves it to be a “rule made by humans”, and this makes it diametrically opposed to Holy Scripture and the words of Jesus Christ.
 
Since Scripture is not self authenticating, and is not self teaching*, and does not specify which books within it are inspired, how can the Protestant know that the book to which he holds is inspired at all?
*Acts 8:30-31, 2Peter 3:16

Sola Scriptura has failed this most basic test. It is not Biblical. It is certainly not historical before the Protestant revolt. It could not possibly have worked before the invention of the printing press when Bibles became plentiful. It could not possibly have worked when 95% of the masses were illiterate. From the evidence I have presented in this essay, it simply could not, and does not, and never will work. Protestantism fabricated this false man-made doctrine of Sola Scriptura simply because they have nothing else to work with.​

The Protestant Never Ending Splitting of the Body of Christ Error:
The errors of “rule by personal opinion”, the “Holy Spirit told me”, “Sola Scriptura”, and “rejection of authority”, all lead to chaos, confusion, and to divisions of the one Body of Christ.
Where there is rule by personal opinion among millions of people, you will have millions of differing personal opinions which leads to utter chaos.
Where everyone thinks he or she is right because the “Holy Spirit told me”, there is bound to be all three spirits involved. Who is right and who is wrong when all think they are right?
When everyone is practicing Sola Scriptura, they limit themselves to Scripture only, and again personal opinions enter into the picture, so whose opinion do we accept?
Where there is no GOD given authority, and a dispute between factions cannot be settled amicably, the factions of personal opinion split, creating yet more factions. This is precisely why Jesus Christ founded His one teaching Church and gave it the authority (Matthew 18:17-18) to settle disputes of which Scripture tells us were inevitable to arise (1Corinthians 11:19).

Where there is GOD given authority, a dispute is settled by that authoritative body.
Where there is no GOD given authority, a dispute is not settled. The opposing parties simply split and form new sects, and thus is revealed the main reason why there are today, 35,500 splits (as of the middle of 2002, with even more today) of the Body of Christ in Protestantism.

When Martin Luther came along and broke from the Church which Jesus Christ founded, which had already existed for almost fifteen hundred years, and which was on its 218th in a line of Popes going all the way back to St. Peter, he created the first Protestant church. It was 1521. He was not alone in doing this but almost immediately he and Thomas Munzer had a “difference of opinion” and Munzer broke from Luther and formed the second Protestant church, also in 1521. The splits in Protestantism had begun and continue at a feverish pace to this very day. In 1600 there were 100 splits. In 1900 there were over 1000. Today there are over 36,400 splits in the Body of Christ in Protestantism with new ones being added every week, and the end is not in sight.
“Has Christ been divided up?” 1Corinthians 1:13, yet another verse ignored by Protestants.
This is the legacy one receives as a “reward” for ‘rule by opinion’ which is forbidden by scripture, insisting that ‘the Holy Spirit told me’ when He did not, ‘Sola Scriptura’ which is not scriptural, and ‘rejection of an authoritative governing body’, which is against the commands of Scripture
(Matthew 18:17, Hebrews 13:17).

“He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters.”
Matthew 12:30, Luke 11:23
With, well over 36,000 different Protestant sects today, just who is doing the scattering?
It is obvious from the verses listed that ‘he who scatters’ is against the gatherer, Jesus Christ.​

The Error of Bringing GOD Down to Our Mere Human Level:
  1. The Blessed Virgin Mary could have not been immaculately conceived.
  2. She could not have been ever virgin.
  3. She could not have been assumed into Heaven.
  4. There was no miracle of the loaves and fishes, as each of the 5000 had a sandwich in his pocket.
    This rejection of a genuine Biblical miracle leads to another related rejection:
  5. “This is My Body” could not possibly be His real body, for it would be used up in no time in millions of communions, so it has to be a symbolic gesture.
These and many more denials of Catholic teaching come from Protestant scoffers and doubters as they attempt to transpose Divine miraculous happenings into mere human undertaking.
What these scoffers and doubters are really saying, is that, ‘He who has created the universe and everything in it out of nothing, and sustains it all by virtue of His will, found it to be impossible do these things’.
In their denial of the examples which I have listed, Protestants have done nothing other than to impose limits upon an unlimited GOD.

The scoffers and doubters with their narrow and limited insights, ignore these words of GOD,
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” Isaiah 55:8-9
 
The Protestant Out of Context Error:
Protestants have a bad habit of taking Holy Scripture out of context when they try to make a point.

CONTEXT: The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage AND DETERMINES ITS MEANING.
Protestants invariably will choose a verse or two from Scripture in a vain attempt to “prove” a point. They are oblivious to the surrounding text which gives a different, or usually opposite meaning to their chosen verse or phrase. They will also omit key information and in so doing slant the truth.
Some examples are…
Sola Scriptura: They will use 2Timothy 3:16-17 to try to justify it, but taken in context, those two verses portray an entirely different meaning.
There is no justification for Sola Scriptura whatsoever in those two verses.
One Mediator: They use 1Timothy 2:5 to “prove” this, but taken in context, 1Timothy 2:1, indicates many intercessors. The Blessed Virgin Mary is an intercessor."
Call no man your Father, taken out of context.
The “brothers and sisters” of the Lord, taken out of context.

A text without a context is simply a pretext and nothing more.​

The Mis-interpretation of Holy Scripture Error:
There are several things which must be taken into consideration when interpreting Holy Scripture, and many of them are ignored by Protestants.
  1. The Senses of Scripture. Should the passage be taken literally, allegorically, as a parable, etc?
    Most Protestants will take the whole Bible literally, except for John chapter 6, of which they say it is symbolic.
  2. The meaning of the words used at the time of writing are not necessarily the same meaning of the words today.
  3. History plays a big role in proper Scriptural interpretation. The nature and customs of those of which Scripture speaks must be taken into account.
  4. The true meanings of what the authors had in mind are sometimes lost in translation from one language to another. Words in one language sometimes have no exact counterpart in another language and a word is chosen by compromise as “closest” in meaning, that is according to the one who is doing the translating. Frequently, the ancient Greek and Hebrew texts must be consulted in order to ascertain the true meanings of the words of Scripture.
  5. Many Protestant sects will attempt to conform Holy Scripture to their false teaching, rather than to conform their teaching to the truth of Scripture.

Some of the false charges made by Protestants against the Catholic Church, due to their mis-interpretation of Holy Scripture. Cases in point:
*Mary had “other children”.
*Holding to the Sabbath.
*Peter had no Primacy.
*The Papacy is not scriptural.
*The Catholic Church could not be the Church which Jesus Christ founded, as it does not match what Scripture says regarding the primitive Church.
*The Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol and could not be the Body of Christ. Didn’t Jesus Christ say in many verses that it is His Body? Did He say anywhere that it was only a symbolic gesture?
*The seven churches mentioned in Revelation 2 and 3 are said to be various Protestant churches. That is one of the most ridiculous claims of all, with Protestants grasping at straws, and using wishful thinking. To make it simple, by using today’s English, those seven Churches were parishes in different cities of the same one Church which Jesus Christ founded. In easy to understand terms, they were all founded by the same Apostles who were all infused with the same truth by the same Holy Spirit at the same time at Pentecost. They all taught only one truth, so all of those Churches were in the same one fold, and were not in seven different opposing Protestant folds.
The seven Churches are merely an extension of Acts 1:8 where Jesus said this to the Apostles:
“But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be my witnesses in Jerusalem (local) and in all Judea and Sama’ria (expanding to surrounding areas) and to the end of the earth (expanding over the whole earth).”
How could this ever be accomplished except by establishing Churches in all areas of the world?​

 
The Protestant Acceptance and Rejection of Holy Scripture Error:
are rejected or ignored by Protestants.
“I will accept this verse becausThis is known as Smorgasbord or Cafeteria Christianity. I have already presented several verses which e it feels good (again) for me, and I will reject that verse because it does not fit in with what I believe”, so they say. I have already presented many verses of Scripture that are completely ignored by Protestants. By their actions, rather than by their words, they contradict their claim to follow Scripture to the letter.

Here is just a sampling of several more verses which Protestants either reject or ignore in addition to those already mentioned:

Matthew 16:18, Jesus said He would found “A” Church. He did not say churches did He?

Matthew 18:15-18, It is the Church which is the final authority.
Why do Protestants say it is the Bible which is their final authority?
Where does the Bible say that it is the final authority?

John 10:16, And there shall be ONE fold and ONE shepherd.
Where did Jesus say there shall be 36,000+ folds as there are in Protestantism today?

Luke 1:48
"For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; "
“Henceforth” means from the moment she said it. “All generations” is all of humanity from the time she said it until the end of time. The word “will” is a command and not a mere suggestion.
In all of my stack of correspondence from Protestants regarding the Mother of GOD, from many years ago to the date of this writing, not a single Protestant has ever called her blessed. I must point out a second time that this verse is not a suggestion, but a command, and it is a command from GOD. The Archangel Gabriel called her blessed in Luke 1:28. Angels speak for GOD. Elizabeth called her blessed in Luke 1:42, and those words of hers came from being filled with the Holy Spirit in the previous verse. GOD called her blessed more than once, so what possible excuse can Protestants, who claim to faithfully follow Holy Scripture to the letter, have to not call her blessed as well?
Dear Protestant; Do you call her blessed? No? Then why are disobedient to Holy Scripture?

John 6:53, So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;”
Did He say to eat and drink a symbol of His flesh and blood? What does the “Truly, Truly, I say to you” mean to you? We have already established that truth is a person. That person is Jesus Christ. When “Truth” Himself said “truly”, twice in that verse, is that indicative of being a symbolic statement, or of a reality?
Do you “truly truly” believe what “Truth” Himself said here?
Or perhaps, are you one of those in John 6:66 who refused to believe Him and walked away from Him, abandoning His truth? Did you notice the 666 connection in that verse?
It is too bad that Protestants do not see the typological connections between the Old and New Testaments. Did the Hebrews and Jews “symbolically” sacrifice animals, or did they, in fact, sacrifice real animals? Read the book of Leviticus and find out for yourself.

1Corinthians 10:16, “The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?”
Where is the symbolism found in this verse or anywhere in the context?

1Corinthians 11:29, “…he who eats and drinks unworthily, without distinguishing the body eats and drinks judgment to himself.” How could a mere symbolism be a cause of judgment?

Malachi 1:11, all day in every place there is offered sacrifice, and there is offered in my name a clean oblation. How many Protestants sects offer sacrifice at all, let alone every day?

Matthew 28:19-20 says that Jesus Christ will be with His Church every day in every century until the end of time. This theme is repeated in Ephesians 3:21 and in John 14:16. Why then do Protestants insist that the Church which Jesus Christ founded apostatized at some unspecified time after the last Apostle died? By saying this, aren’t they calling Jesus Christ a liar?
“He who does not believe the Son, makes Him a liar.” 1John 5:10

There are over 50 verses in the Bible in which hell is mentioned. Matthew 23:33, Mark 9:43, and Luke 10:15, are but three examples. Yet in some Protestant sects the existence of hell is denied. Imagine how much space in the Holy Bible those 50 plus verses and the related verses cover, and you can readily see that a large segment of Holy Scripture is denied by them.

1Corinthians 11:22 warns not to despise the church of GOD, “What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the Church of GOD and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not.”
Later in this essay, I will show you how some Protestant sects do indeed despise the “Church of GOD” by calumnizing it and spreading lies about it.

Here is another ignored verse along those same lines,
“Do not be a stumbling-block to Jews and Greeks and to the Church of GOD.”
1Corinthians 10:32

Throughout this document, I have listed many more verses which are ignored by Protestants.​

 
The Protestant “Once Saved Always Saved” Error:
Are you saved? This is what some Protestants will ask you. Anyone who thinks they are automatically “saved” simply by declaring that Jesus Christ is their personal Lord and Savior is grossly mistranslating Holy Scripture, and is committing a sin of presumption. It is GOD alone who knows who is “saved” and who is not. No human creature can declare themselves as being “saved”. That false doctrine is a fabrication of Protestantism and cannot be found written anywhere before the Protestant revolt. Salvation is an on-going process throughout our entire lives as Holy Scripture clearly has told us. Read 1Corinthians chapter 13, as it tells us that we must have faith, hope, and charity (13). If we are automatically “saved”, then what is the purpose of hope?
Sola Fides, or “saved by faith only” is taught by many Protestants. However, that false man-made Protestant doctrine cannot be found anywhere in the Bible. In fact, the only place in the entire Bible where the words “faith” and “only” are found together is in James 2:24, where it says,
“You see that by works a man is justified, and NOT by faith only.”
That verse was a thorn in Martin Luther’s side. He called the book of James a “straw epistle”, which meant it was worthy of burning, and he wanted to remove it from Scripture. It must have been an embarrassment to him since he had added the word “alone” to Romans 3:28, in his German translation of the Bible, in order to have it support his false “justified by faith alone” doctrine. James 2:24 is still ignored or rejected altogether by many Protestants.

“You are my friends if you do what I command you.” John 15:14
“…work out your salvation with fear and trembling.” Philippians 2:12
For those who think they are “saved” by faith only, how could they ever ignore those verses?
Both say very clearly that works are needed, and without works you are no friend of Jesus.
They also ignore a large part of Matthew 25 regarding the Last Judgment. Read vs 31-46 very carefully, as Jesus spoke of judging two groups, the sheep and the goats.
Notice that both groups believed, but only one group worked, and they were the sheep, and it was the sheep who were to be saved.
Be sure and do not overlook verses 41-46, as you will find therein where the goats were going to spend their eternity since they also believed, but did no work?
The goats believed, but were they saved by believing only, and without works?
Those who practice “once saved always saved” would have us believe that they were.​

The Historical Black Hole Error:
Sir Isaac Newton was once asked how he managed to amass such great knowledge of his field in his lifetime. He replied, “Because I stood on the shoulders of giants”.
Gaining knowledge in any field, including Theology is a continuous process (John 16:13), where one lays the foundation and others build upon it therein (1Corinthians 3:10). Mistakes are made along the way but conscientious followers profit from those mistakes and knowledge increases. Protestantism however, being severely handicapped by the ball and chain of Sola Scriptura, makes no use of those “giants” who went before them for the first fifteen hundred years of Christianity. Theological progress and past mistakes and errors are ignored as if they did not even exist.
Protestants are saddled with an historical fifteen hundred year Black Hole.
So what is the end result?
The errors of the past are repeated and progress in truth is hindered and stifled.
To be successful in any endeavor, historical successes and historical failures and errors are not to be ignored, for that is how knowledge progresses.
Those who fail to profit from the errors of others who went before them are doomed to repeat those same errors again, and in so doing take steps backward instead of forward.
Those who fail to profit from historical successes are doomed to re-invent the wheel again and again.

“All things are full of weariness; a man cannot utter it; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing. What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; and there is nothing new under the sun. Is there a thing of which it is said, “See, this is new”? It has been already, in the ages before us. There is no remembrance of former things, nor will there be any remembrance of later things yet to happen among those who come after.”
Ecclesiastes 1:8-11

Protestants are afraid to read authentic historical documents written before their revolt in the 16th century, because they fear what they may find written therein.
One of the most famous converts to the Catholic Church from Protestantism, Cardinal John Henry Newman, wrote in his introduction to his “Development of Doctrine” treatise,
“To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant”. Newman set out to “prove” from historical documents that Anglicanism was the “true” church, the Church which Jesus Christ founded. What he found by extensive researching of genuine historical documents was that it was not the Anglican church which Jesus Christ founded, but the Catholic Church. From the overwhelming evidence which he found, he immediately converted to the “true Church”, the Catholic Church.
 
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