Why Is Catholicism So Unattractive to Evangelicals?

[Denise1957]

Nope, that’s not true, sorry.

I think I laid out, a handful of times, within this thread why I am not interested. Pretty sure I didn’t bring up “too much work”.

That is one thing that I definitely don’t see.

You say that you don’t see it, but where have you been looking, specifically?

 

[theropod]

Nope, that’s not true, sorry.

I think I laid out, a handful of times, within this thread why I am not interested. Pretty sure I didn’t bring up “too much work”.

That is one thing that I definitely don’t see.

Re-read. I was disputing the idea that evangelicals see Catholicism as too much work.

 

[TC3033]

You say that you don’t see it, but where have you been looking, specifically?

Specifically, here’s a few:

My wife of over 12 years, we’ve been together almost 15.

In-laws.

Attending Mass and church events with my family and in some instances my in-laws for almost 15 years.

 

[TC3033]

I see other “churches” playin church. They have no valid consecration, heck they don’t believe in the Eucharist

OK, there’s other, more tactful ways of getting your point across without insulting other’s faiths. Especially when this has zero to do with the OP, almost trolling if you will.

 

[TC3033]

Re-read. I was disputing the idea that evangelicals see Catholicism as too much work.

 

[Denise1957]

Specifically, here’s a few:

My wife of over 12 years, we’ve been together almost 15.

In-laws.

Attending Mass and church events with my family and in some instances my in-laws for almost 15 years.

May I ask about what sort of work you believe that they should be doing? I know what sort of ‘work’ that I believe Catholics should consider doing more of, but your version of what ‘work’ is, exactly, may be different from mine.

 

[Denise1957]

OK, there’s other, more tactful ways of getting your point across without insulting other’s faiths. Especially when this has zero to do with the OP, almost trolling if you will.

While using the terms “playing church” may not be very tactful, it hardly seems troll-worthy. But then I’ve on these forums for awhile, and am not easily offended anymore.

 

[JustaServant]

If the Catholic Church is wrong, why are all these different protestant denominations claiming guidance from the Holy Spirit and now have over 30,000 different views? God has shown you here His Church (Catholic) is the same, from the very beginning on the day of Pentacost to today.

Protestant denominations do not number 30,000, nor are there 30,000 different views.

Are you just trolling? Insult is not dialogue.

 

[theropod]

christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/march-web-only/argentine-evangelicals-say-bergoglio-as-pope-francis-is-ans.html

Greg Venables, Anglican bishop of Argentina and former archbishop of the Anglican Church of the Southern Cone, offered his take on Bergoglio on his public Facebook page:

“Many are asking me what Jorge Bergoglio is really like. He is much more of a Christian, Christ centered and Spirit filled, than a mere churchman. He believes the Bible as it is written. I have been with him on many occasions and he always makes me sit next to him and invariably makes me take part and often do what he as Cardinal should have done. He is consistently humble and wise, outstandingly gifted yet a common man. He is no fool and speaks out very quietly yet clearly when necessary. He called me to have breakfast with him one morning and told me very clearly that the Ordinariate [creating by the Catholic Church to accommodate alienated Anglicans] was quite unnecessary and that the church needs us as Anglicans. I consider this to be an inspired appointment not because he is a close and personal friend but because of who he is In Christ. Pray for him.”

I wonder if Pope Francis told his Anglican friend to stop playing church.

 

[Michael68]

OK, there’s other, more tactful ways of getting your point across without insulting other’s faiths. Especially when this has zero to do with the OP, almost trolling if you will.

To clarify: other “churches” have rock concerts and emotion charged services that at first might seem attractive, but imo are misleading millions with their version of “church”.I used to attend the Hot Hearts concerts here and found that the kids thought that was supposed to be church. This is my opinion! This is one reason I think the Catholic Church. appears to be unattractive.

 

[TC3033]

While using the terms “playing church” may not be very tactful, it hardly seems troll-worthy. But then I’ve on these forums for awhile, and am not easily offended anymore.

It’s a flat insult…It’s insulting someone’s faith. I may not have been on this board a while, but I’ve been around.

Am I insulted, no, but he may be proving a point about how unwelcome some can experience.

 

[Marty100]

Evangelical Christianity is simplistic.

Easy to understand. The Model is the New Testament Church.

The church is the congregation not the building.

The Local church is the center of worship and Christ is their King.

Their earthly authority is the Gospel. Their churches are simple not ornate, no statues or gold.

Their ministers are ordinary people who wear ordinary clothes and often have ordinary jobs.

All believers are equal in the sight of God. No one places themselves above others.

Never perfect, but always seeking the mind of Christ.

The Catholic Church is Big, Ornate, and complicated. The Ministers of the Church are set apart by lifestyle and dress.

 

[JustaServant]

Perfectly good article and topic shot to Hell.

 

[TC3033]

To clarify: other “churches” have rock concerts and emotion charged services that at first might seem attractive, but imo are misleading millions with their version of “church”.I used to attend the Hot Hearts concerts here and found that the kids thought that was supposed to be church. This is my opinion! This is one reason I think the Catholic Church. appears to be unattractive.

Yep, some other churches have rock concerts. I personally don’t like going, but my church at home doesn’t have music at all and the church I found in my new home town has a little.

It’s great that you have an opinion, but you don’t need to insult people to present it

 

[Michael68]

Sorry, I will just leave you all alone and cancel my account

 

[Denise1957]

Evangelical Christianity is simplistic.

Easy to understand. The Model is the New Testament Church.

The church is the congregation not the building.

The Local church is the center of worship and Christ is their King.

Their earthly authority is the Gospel. Their churches are simple not ornate, no statues or gold.

Their ministers are ordinary people who wear ordinary clothes and often have ordinary jobs.

All believers are equal in the sight of God. No one places themselves above others.

Never perfect, but always seeking the mind of Christ.

The Catholic Church is Big, Ornate, and complicated. The Ministers of the Church are set apart by lifestyle and dress.

Our Catholic Faith came out of Judaism. The Mass was and still is in some respects, based on the old Jewish liturgy. Jesus and his apostles were Jewish. Judaism was based on a hierarchy, and Jesus set up his church based on a hierarchy.

Jesus told St. Peter that Peter was to be the Rock upon which his church would be built, and he also told Peter that he was giving him the keys to bind and loose. There are quite a few other things in Scripture which lend to the fact of a hierarchy-based church.

Evangelical churches have lost the Judaic base and sense of the Church, and instead, they are Americanized and seem to be democratized as well.

 

[TC3033]

May I ask about what sort of work you believe that they should be doing? I know what sort of ‘work’ that I believe Catholics should consider doing more of, but your version of what ‘work’ is, exactly, may be different from mine.

“Work” in the community.

“Work” in the Church.

“Work” in their family life

“Work” in their personal spiritual life.

 

[Eric_Hilbert]

Some of you seem to be a little bit confused about the purpose of the article and the thread itself. This is not a free-for-all to bash non-Catholics or the way they worship. Disagree and debate if you wish, step over the line and you will be slammed.
Read the article and discuss it like adults.
It really is that simple.

 

[EIF5A]

Someone mentioned Americanization and democracy in the (American) evangelical church.

The idea that there’s a bishop, priest, and cardinal who wear different outfits to distinguish himself seems to go against the idea that all are equal.

Why don’t they just wear regular suit and tie? Because Mass is heaven on earth. (I don’t perceive it with my eyes, but with a tiny kernel of faith I believe as much as I can.) Holiness and reverence should be reflected. Of course, this doesn’t mean a poor parish with limited resources is automatically “less” holy. But to the extent that the physical senses are elevated to worship and adoration of God, what’s the harm?

Now that I think about it, there seems to be an emphasis on “equality” in the evangelical church. Another example is “All sins are equal in the eyes of God.” I know for a fact the sins I have committed are much, much worse than someone stealing a pack of gum.

The Church leaders are not “better” — God has given them a very specific task to guide souls to holiness, reverence, and awe. But even in the Bible, it is stated that some are earthenware and others are more ornate — all according to God’s design and purpose.

The idea that saints, especially the Blessed Mother of God, are elevated may also seem odd and against the idea of all being equal. (And this is even before discussing the different degrees of perfection of saints.)

 

[FollowChrist34]

“Work” in the community.

“Work” in the Church.

“Work” in their family life

“Work” in their personal spiritual life.

Nailed it my friend. I have no argument here. I would even add that these works flow naturally from well-nourished, well-maintained faith through the grace of God.

Don’t forget “Work” in healing the body of Christ.