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anEvilAtheist
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No, God could have made us so we were physically incapable of inflicting severe physical suffering on other people. Just like God created me such that I am unable to make you float in the air, God could have made it so I could not inflict severe physical suffering on you.Is there evil in the world? Yes. What is evil? Natural or moral departures from the law of God. A moral evil is manifested in sin, and sin is allowed by God because of the gift of free will. An atheist might make the case, but a very unconvincing one, that God could always make the bullets of one man miss another man. What would be the point? To save the victim? Yes, but at the price of taking away the free will of man. Sin would be impossible under this regime. But so would virtue. We would all be mere robots designed to go through our programmed motions.
Well I think that the concept of divine goodness is incoherent. I do not think that it is possible for God to be good in any meaningful way. So these events would not be good or evil in any meaningful way.A natural evil is manifested in an earthquake or a flood. This, the atheist argues, is either proof that God does not exist, or that God is mean spirited because God could prevent all natural disasters if He chose to do so. Supposedly this would show both his benificence and his power. But it would also show that the laws of nature He created were created for nothing. Floods and earthquakes are evidence of natural laws being fulfilled. So also was the creation of the planet Earth, the rise and fall of species on it, and the evolution of man to his present state. Were these events good or evil, kind or cruel?
I agree. I do not claim that God must be mean or immoral if he exists.That nature produces events disastrous to the welfare of humanity is self evident. That God allows those events as a part of His mean spirited nature is not evident.
Not all atheists make the same deduction.There are too many other things in nature that are blessings to us all to conclude that God is mean spirited or powerless. We might as well argue that because we are all going to die, a law of our human nature, God was mean-spirited because He could have made us to live forever. (He does mean us to live forever.) The deduction atheists make is that God is either mean-spirited or God does not exist clearly shows that the atheist cannot believe in a mean-spirited God. Neither can we.
Certainly it’s epistemologically possible that we will one day discover something that will resolve this, and other, apparent contradictions in Christianity, but that’s true of anything. If someone had declared thousands of years ago that pigs can, on their own, sprout wings and fly around, I would see this as a false statement. I suppose it’s theoretically possible that pigs have been hiding this talent from us or could still do it one day, but I don’t think it makes sense to see this as a true statement. So while the problem of evil does not disprove God, it does provide evidence his existence.But it does not follow that God does not exist. What follows only is that we have not solved the mystery of evil entirely to our satisfaction. What the atheist is obliged to admit is that the problem of evil can only be rationally explained by a universe that is indifferent to our fate. How can that be when the universe created us and gave us the means by which to survive and to flourish? Ah, but the universe has no mind, the atheist replies. It is not capable of planning good or evil.
Then why should anything in the universe be capable of good or of evil, as even atheists will admit humans are capable? Exactly what are we talking about if not good and evil? And why did the universe create us if not to talk about good and evil, truth and lies, the beautiful and the ugly … even the birth and death of the universe?
The universe is not a conscious being and so it is inappropriate to apply the labels good and evil to it. The weather may cause me suffering, but I do not say that the weather itself is evil. The issue of whether objective good and evil exist is not one that atheists are on agreement on. I make no claim to know whether objective morality exists. I will not defend the arguments of all atheists, just like I would not expect you to defend the arguments of all theists.
I don’t do that because I have no desire to do that. I enjoy life and I wouldn’t want to miss a minute of it.If the universe cares not a fig for us because it cannot care for anything, why don’t we just follow the example of Schopenahuer and sleep with a pistol under our pillow waiting for the zenith of ennui or despair? The Catholic answer is to pray that God is good, all powerful, and able to answer our needs if we but cry out to Him, even as we are washed over by a flood or swallowed up by the earth.