You are taking one line of scripture and running with it. You need to read that Chapter and quote it from the begining of Ch 15. Paul is giving a summury from the begining and is putting everything in contrast. It is very clear he is doing this. You are taking just one line of Pauls summery. Yes,sometimes there are times in scirpture where this is affective,but this is not the case with the one line you pulled from the Bible.
The Jewish religion denies Christ. Do you disagree with that statement?
Much to the relief of 1st-century adult male converts.
uch:Do you disagree with what I posted? Maybe you are one of those moderns who thinks the resurrection was spiritual and not real?
1 Corinthians 15:
Sorry, I don’t play the baith and switch games
Once again. You are playing “bait and switch”. If you are not sure what that is just look back at how I quoted you and posed a question and/or remark. You then followed up with a completely different subject hence “bait and switch”
:dts:Sorry, I don’t play the baith and switch games
Once again. You are playing “bait and switch”. If you are not sure what that is just look back at how I quoted you and posed a question and/or remark. You then followed up with a completely different subject hence “bait and switch”
Luke 2:46-49 6 After three days they found him **in the temple, **sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. 47 And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers. 48 And when his parents(1 )saw him, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been searching for you in great distress.” 49 And he said to them, "Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?"
No, there was no bait and switch. I have no idea what I posted that you would disagree with.Sorry, I don’t play the baith and switch games
Once again. You are playing “bait and switch”. If you are not sure what that is just look back at how I quoted you and posed a question and/or remark. You then followed up with a completely different subject hence “bait and switch”
**if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. ** It can’t get a whole lot clearer than this. Do you disagree with the above? If so, what is it you disagree with?
If Christ isn’t risen our faith is in vain. Is there something in this statement you don’t like?
Out in His beautiful creation.
Just me I guess. Ahh they are not pagans, I hope! Actually (and I hope I offend no one) but millions of people have suffered agonizing deaths, many as drawn-out and as painful as that of Jesus. Think of all the wars, all the torture, all the tragedies of history - many man-made, but many (like the recent tornados) 'acts of God'. When I see Jesus on the cross I see him as symbolic of all the innocent people who have faced a cruel death. Do we make too much out of this one sacrifice? What about victims whose hearts were cut out while still alive, virgins tossed into live volcanoes, captives skinned alive, prisoners slowly tortured to death, etc.?
And Jesus knew all the time that he was going to rise in three days and sit eternally in glory at the right hand of the Father?
In fact - forgive me - but that whole scenario troubles me. I recall an old rime:
God published a tale of a girl and a ghost,
Of devils in pigs and his son on a cross,
And gave it to man to believe it or roast -
For his mercy endureth forever!
I am a Christian, devoted to the message of Christ and trying to live with him as my example. But this substitutionary suffering dogma, the idea that God deliberately had his only son killed to save us from hell, seems wildly primitive, yes even pagan. I'm sure God has set in place better ways of gaining eternal life. What about Jesus' statement in answer to the lawyer (Luke 10:25-28)? Christ said nothing about doctrine, only that in order to obtain eternal life we must (1) love God and (2) love our neighbor as ourself.
Oh, and as some have pointed out, Anglicans and Lutherans often do have Christ upon the cross. I especially dislike seeing it hanging in hospital rooms in Catholic hospitals!First, let’s get on the same page:
I mis-used the term “pagan” in my earlier post.I feel God at the park
Like Jesus was sitting out on the hill.
For some reason I could never listen to billy Graham crusades out in a big stadium that had been used for football.
Would Jesus do this?, if he would he would have been at the coloseum eeee how awfull, where they spilled blood and the men ran around naked
I do believe a sanctuary should be just that for worship, which I think is what 2G is getting at.
I don’t think the muslims are pagans, this is the first time I have heard them referred to as that.
Why do you keep ignoring the verse just before that one? The one that states that “if there is no ressurecion of the dead”?
A temple is a place where sacrifice is offered. Sacrifice is not offered at a synagogue.
What exactly bothers you about the verse I posted? Can you show us that if Jesus hadn’t been resurrected our faith wouldn’t be in vain?