Why Is Marijuana use Immoral?

[roymckenzie]

nucatholic:

Its not as addictive as nicotine or even alcohol. In fact, nicotine is one of the most addictive chemicals. More so than cocain. How many people die each year from their tobacco addictions or alcoholism and how many people die from smoking cannabis? If cannabis is to stay illegal, then tobacco and alcohol should logically follow suit. Cannabis is a strong pain reliever without the fear of strong physical addiction. This is extremely helpful. Doctors all over the country are prescribing cannabis for their patients as a better alternative. Some states are legalizing the use of medicinal cannabis (just recently Rhode Island). Don’t sit there and tell me that doctors all over the country would prescribe medicinal cannabis if it were harmful. There are rare cases of people with a family history of mental disorders developing psychosis from cannabis use. If you are one of these rare people, the doctor will not prescribe it for you. Its as simple as that. In fact there is just as much of a risk of developing some kind of problem using aspirin, ibuprofen, or tylenol.

My friend.

I want to understand your argument. Are you suggesting that doctors only do what is moral? Are you trying to say if many doctors all over the country prescribe a drug or a procedure that it is moral? Are you saying that if not many but hundreds, no thousands let’s say 4,000 doctors average every day prescribe a drug or a procedure it is moral?

Can you point to a US Government study or study done by a reputable institute that uses scientific controlled method that proves your assertions that Marijuana is or is not addictive or harmful?

I will assert to you that on average everyday doctors in the United States prescribe abortion for 4,000 of their patients. I will further assert that abortion is always bad for the small human that is being killed. Going on I will assert that abortion is always bad for the mother of the small human that is being killed. Lastly I will assert that always and everywhere that a doctor prescribes abortion, it is a grave moral evil.

A further point and I am sure it is just a foible on my part and I am sure you are not trying to fall in to relativism but is seems strange that you would substitute the work cannabis for marijuana. Before you flame me I know that marijuana is just the street name for cannabis. My point and I am sure it is not your intent, but the relativists try confusing the topic by finding and equivalent for the name of something they are trying to push to the mainstream.

 

[Lance]

My son is proof that marijuana is a gateway drug. You may not be able to become physically addicted to it but you most certainly can develop a psycological addiction to it.

 

[wabrams]

Lance:

My son is proof that marijuana is a gateway drug. You may not be able to become physically addicted to it but you most certainly can develop a psycological addiction to it.

How is that proof it is a gateway drug?

 

[Lance]

wabrams:

How is that proof it is a gateway drug?

He started with pot and is now a crack cocain addict. I don’t need anymore proof. Lots of people start out using pot very few start out on crack cocain or heroin. Unless you have lived with a drug addict and know something I don’t you will just have to take my word for it.

 

[krokal]

Your example: I tried wine coolers, but then I started drinking scotch.
Your result: Wine coolers are a gateway to hard liquor.

You have 0 proof that marijuana is a gateway drug. Your sons other drug use is beside the fact. If anything, the reason he started using harder drugs is because his dealer was probably selling more than pot. That doesn’t make it a gateway drug.

 

[roymckenzie]

SPIT

 

[roymckenzie]

The Catechism of the Catholic Church is a true and sure norm, as Catholics we are obligated to believe in it with out fail. You can choose to believe in it because it is truth without error and discoverable by reason or you can choose to believe in it by faith but you are absolutely obligated to believe in it.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church clearly says that drug use is grave offense and can only be used for therapeutic reasons. So as with any other drug, it is incumbent upon the person suggesting that the drug are therapeutic to prove that it has benefits, what those benefits are, that there is not a better method for obtaining those benefits and that the benefits out way the risks. Many of you have been flaming other people for using empirical evidence to support their claims that marijuana is a gateway drug. So I am going to ask you to quote scientific studies done by the US Government or other reputable labs that proves your claims that marijuana is not a gateway drug, is therapeutic and its benefits out way its risks.
Catechism of the Catholic Church 2291:

The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.

Catechism of the Catholic Church 2211:

The political community has a duty to honor the family, to assist it, and to ensure especially:

• the freedom to establish a family, have children, and bring them up in keeping with the family’s own moral and religious convictions;
• the protection of the stability of the marriage bond and the institution of the family;
• the freedom to profess one’s faith, to hand it on, and raise one’s children in it, with the necessary means and institutions;
• the right to private property, to free enterprise, to obtain work and housing, and the right to emigrate;
• in keeping with the country’s institutions, the right to medical care, assistance for the aged, and family benefits;
• the protection of security and health, especially with respect to dangers like drugs, pornography, alcoholism, etc.;
• the freedom to form associations with other families and so to have representation before civil authority.15

 

[Lance]

Kaleb Kroger:

Your example: I tried wine coolers, but then I started drinking scotch.
Your result: Wine coolers are a gateway to hard liquor.

You have 0 proof that marijuana is a gateway drug. Your sons other drug use is beside the fact. If anything, the reason he started using harder drugs is because his dealer was probably selling more than pot. That doesn’t make it a gateway drug.

Have you lived with or been a addict? If not your opinion counts for zero, zilch, zip, nadda, nothing and yes wine coolers can be a gateway to hard liquor. Not many alcoholics started drinking scotch or bourbon on the rocks, as a matter of fact most of the ones I know from AA and Families Anonymous seem to drink beer or fortified wine.

Read Roy’s reply above. It says everything you need to know.

 

[Mordocai]

Gateway drug for sure (meaning it leads to other drug use)
but also a gateway drug in the sense that it pries the mind and soul open to the evil one.

Mordocai

 

[wabrams]

Lance:

He started with pot and is now a crack cocain addict. I don’t need anymore proof. Lots of people start out using pot very few start out on crack cocain or heroin. Unless you have lived with a drug addict and know something I don’t you will just have to take my word for it.

I’m very sorry to hear about your son; I’ve seen the results of drug addicts before.

I do have to agree with Kaleb, though. I smoked my fair share of pot in college, but I did not try anything harder. The same can be said for the majority of my friends that I smoked with. I know far more alcoholics than I do drug addicts, so maybe we should ban alcohol while we’re at it.

 

[Lance]

wabrams:

I’m very sorry to hear about your son; I’ve seen the results of drug addicts before.

I do have to agree with Kaleb, though. I smoked my fair share of pot in college, but I did not try anything harder. The same can be said for the majority of my friends that I smoked with. I know far more alcoholics than I do drug addicts, so maybe we should ban alcohol while we’re at it.

First let me say thank you. Second, having grown up with a alcoholic grandfather and seeing the damage he did to his family, I could not put up a strong argument in favor of legal alcohol, other than the fact that prohibition made a lot of criminals out of some otherwise honest folks.