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Exactly… as I was discussing here aswell. How easy it is to understand such simple things when the oppression of abstract teachings and preconceived ideas are not overwhelming our hearts and minds… but then, it alway overwhelmes the masses…thats why every Manifestation of God had so suffer its consequences… Christ Jesus also did.Jews do not care who the Messiah is. Jews care about what the Messiah will do. If the Messiah did not do what *they *expect him to do, he is no Messiah.
Some Jewish believe that Jesus Changed the Torah (which once I discussed in one of the threads…its fulfillment, not change…):
The Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
Throughout the New Testament, according to the Jews, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and 9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37).
The term ‘Change’ is not very specific when it comes to discuss Religions. Does the nature of God change? … The nature of God is eternal and all encompassing. It has always been, which puts Him is a position of being sancitified from any change, any plurality or singularity. God is pure perfection.
But then, let us study what happened when Christ Jesus came:
Jesus vividly illustrates his approach in the section often called “the six antitheses” (Math 5:21- 48). These are the “you have heard it said…but I say unto you…”. In six cases of important issues of Mosaic Law, Jesus contrast his word with the words of the Torah.
Even more startling, in three cases, on divorce, oaths and vows, and retaliation, Jesus revokes the letter of the Law and replaces it with his own diametrically opposed commands. Immediately after having said he has come to fulfill the scriptures, Jesus sets aside some of them! Apparently the process of “fulfillment of scriptures” includes alterations. In all six antithesis, Jesus applies the Golden Rule to make his alterations of scripture. In the last one, Jesus turns the laws of retaliation upside down and stresses loving even your enemy and doing good.
This principle of a superior righteousness, enunciated here in verses Math 5:17-20, is illustrated in the six antitheses that immediately follow. Each of these is based on some form of “you have heard it said of old . . . but I say unto you.” The difference pertains to both theology and history. Theologically, the importance words are “but I say,” which means that the new law has to do with the person of Jesus. Historically, the new situation revealed in the person of Jesus renders everything else “old.” The appearance of Jesus in this world divides history into a before and an after. The “I say” places Jesus on the same level as the Voice that Moses heard on Mount Sinai.
Just one of the examples is his reversing Ex:21:23-25 where it clearly teaches an eye for an eye, foot for a foot, hand-for-a-hand. But Math:38 says “You have learned…eye for eye…But what I tell you is this: Do not set yourself against the man who wronged you. If someone slaps you on the right cheek, turn and offer him your left…” etc.
And Jesus also says (as rightfully quoted by you):
Matt. 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”.
Jesus Christ, as stated above, is speaking about the essence of God and His creation. Let us then look into it with abit more confidence and love for Him.
When a child is born, his formation into existance into the womb is fulfilled. He looks slightly (or to whichever degree you prefer) different in the womb. But does his appearence into this world with a new look changes him from being who he is? … He is the same life.
Man was man, even when he had thick hair covering his naked body. That kind of a physic, hair etc, probably was neccessary for us at that time. But as we matured, and began to introduce various methods of dress and protect ourselves from the effects of nature … we slowly evolved. A person can immediately say “we changed!” … but the more appropriate word is “we evolved!”. Human have grown, evolved … according to the need of their present/current atmosphere.
Every tommorow is to fulfill today, and every today have fulfilled tommorow. Now you can say that the days have changed… or just that its the same sun again in a new time, giving way to certain newness (everytime it appears again).
This is basically how religions progress… fulfilling the past, and moving towards …
See this aswell, might interest you:
bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/if-you.htm
Its my favourite article, where there is a questions: “If you were present in the crowd, as a practicing Jew…would you accept Jesus as he declared Himself the Massiah!?”
See ya,
Kashef